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Monckton: GOP Treasonous For Not Going Birther

The Worldnutdaily recently added Lord Christopher Monckton to their roster of deranged columnists and he has quickly managed to distinguish himself as particularly nutty even with the likes of Chuck Norris and Vox Day hanging around. Now he says Romney and other Republican politicians who aren’t pushing his birther bullshit are guilty of treason for it.

For your governing class has cravenly abandoned the Constitution. Faced with one of the most flagrant and persisting breaches of that great charter of freedom in your nation’s history, they totter fightless from the field…

But the real criminals are those in high office who know Mr. Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery but willfully, sullenly do absolutely nothing about it.

Mr. Romney made a joke of the bogus birth certificate and then, characteristically, flip-flopped and apologized. He should certainly have apologized – not for drawing attention to the issue but for making a joke of it, and for failing to ensure behind the scenes that a credible, properly organized, fully funded legal challenge to the Manchurian Candidate’s right to appear on the ballot against him is vigorously pursued.

But no. Let’s crack a limp joke, limply apologize and limply lose the election…

I asked a senior Republican attorney what he thought. He became hysterical and said: “Don’t touch the issue. Birthers are pointy-heads. They will draw you in. Your reputation will be ruined. Really.” …

To all my Republican friends I say this. You will come to regret, and regret bitterly, the day you stood down when you should have stood up and stood to. You should have upheld the Constitution. You betrayed it. Not only you but your nation will pay dearly for your treason by inaction.

Of course, Monckton need not worry about losing his reputation by being a birther; he was already correctly viewed as batshit crazy.

Comments

  1. bobaho says

    Bur when confronted with real crimes to be outraged about, they are quite supportive. Nope let’s talk nonsense, because if we talk about real criminal actions we’re likely to incriminate ourselves.

  2. Pierce R. Butler says

    For your governing class has cravenly abandoned the Constitution. Faced with one of the most flagrant and persisting breaches of that great charter of freedom in your nation’s history, they totter fightless from the field…

    That happened in early ’07, Mr. Monckton, when the then Speaker of the House couldn’t find a table that would hold her Constitutional obligations when faced with high crimes and misdemeanors. In contrast with that colossal failure (but only in that context), the current Congress has been a model of probity and achievement.

  3. Michael Heath says

    Chris Monckton:

    Mr. Romney made a joke of the bogus birth certificate and then, characteristically, flip-flopped and apologized. He should certainly have apologized – not for drawing attention to the issue but for making a joke of it . . .

    Well to balance out Mr. Romney’s supposed flip-flop on this point, Romney did make a joke about Mr. Obama taking climate change seriously. Now that’s real cowardice.

    Consider how strong the delusional denialism has be amongst the GOP delegates for Mr. Romney to assume it’s safe to joke about his denying the gravest threat facing humanity and to criticize his opponent for promising to instead confront this threat. It’d be like FDR’s 1936 opponent, Alf Landon, joking about FDR actually believing that Adolph Hitler and Naziism existed and were a threat.

    A snarky follow-up to Mr. Romney’s denigration of Barack Obama’s promise to confront climate change, which was, “My promise is to help you and your family”; is what Mormon planets will we he relying on to do that?”

  4. says

    Shouldn’t this guy be wearing a poster and talking through a bullhorn on a street corner?

    Well, when you write for the WingNutDaily, isn’t that the same thing?

  5. Michael Heath says

    It’s my perception that the go-to blog for climate change denialists is Anthony Watt’s “Watt’s Up With That?” blog. A venue that also falsely poses as protectors of scientific methodology and skepticism. Scientists who are denialists and/or greenwashers are also close allies, like Roger Pielke Jr. and Sr. In order to defend science Watts-style, Mr. Watts likes him some Monckton arguments, like this Monckton post from just two days ago.

    So while Mr. Monckton’s clearly earned his position at World Net Daily, he and the quality of his work is also representative of the most prolific and popular set of content which denialists read in response to what actual climate scientists understand and publish.

  6. qbsmd says

    *Lord* Monckton is calling someone treasonous to the United States? While having a royal title? Really? New rule: no one with a royal title can criticize any U.S. citizen for not being a good enough U.S. citizen. Both parties should be able to agree with that, right?

  7. garnetstar says

    “Treason by inaction”, what a great idea.

    It opens up entirely new possibilities for the rounding-up and imprisonment of anyone who disagrees with Dominionist wingnuts.

  8. slc1 says

    Re Michael Heath @ #6

    Of course, Mr. Monckton has no credentials whatever to pontificate on the subject of climate change. By the way, speaking of liars, Mr. Monckton has been caught lying about being a member of the British House of Lords. In fact, he is not now and has never been a member of that body.

    Speaking of Anthony Watts, he can put up a good challenge to Romney as a flip flopper. Back when the Koch Brothers funded a study on climate change to be headed by noted climate change skeptic Prof. Richard Muller, Watts stated that he would support any conclusion that Muller and Co. came up with as he considered Muller to be a very reputable scientist. After Muller’s study showed that the climate change community was right after all, Watts changed his tune and began bad mouthing Muller, claiming that he was never a skeptic at all but, instead, was a Trojan horse in the skeptic community who believed all along in AGW.

  9. dingojack says

    Uh the title is not a *royal* title – it’s a hereditary one, he got from his dear old dad, Major-General Gilbert Monckton, 2nd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, not the dear old queen.
    Dingo

  10. Michael Heath says

    Re Chris Monckton’s ‘lord’ title: I think Ed’s using the title here as a pejorative, where the more legitimate the title the more the more effective the insult.

  11. dmcclean says

    I suppose since he’s from the UK we can excuse him his lack of familiarity with Article III, Section 3 of “that great charter of freedom”?

    A protection that was written specifically in response to authoritarian abuses of punishment for (concocted, political) “treason” by governments like the contemporaneous government of his nation, and like the government of the US that he apparently would like to see us create.

    Scumbag.

  12. pocketnerd says

    I fail at HTML. What I meant to say was:

    Monckton is the poster boy for crank magnetism. Is there any crazy idea he won’t believe?

  13. silomowbray says

    slc1 @ 13:

    According to Wikipedia, Monckton is a Viscount, whatever the hell that is.

    FWIW, it’s a peerage rank that sits just below Earl, and just above Baron. I understand it meant something back in the Middle Ages and the Renaissance.

  14. infraredeyes says

    Technically, all of the British titles, including viscount, are of royal origin. Trace the family far enough back, and some ancestor will have been given the title by some king or queen.

  15. harold says

    Romney apparently considers “stopping the rise of the oceans” to be incompatible with “helping you and your family”. And he’s making that speech in a Gulf Coast city.

  16. Chiroptera says

    From the linked article:

    The U.S. Constitution was a magnificent document.

    Actually, it wasn’t. It is certainly historically significant, being one of the earliest successful attempts at creating a viable democratic republic. But, man, the early administrations and governments really had their work cut out for them to get it the system to work smoothly.

  17. says

    I wonder who he thinks Obama is a “Manchurian Candidate” for. Of course given the ignorance of many people who throw around terms like that it’s likely he doesn’t realise what the term actually is supposed to mean.

    20 years from now Birtherism will be seen in the same light as Joseph McCarthy’s list of Communists in the State Department.

  18. zmidponk says

    slc1 #13:

    Re Michael Heath @ #11

    According to Wikipedia, Monckton is a Viscount, whatever the hell that is.

    One of a very large variety of posh gits, basically. Or possibly a biscuit.

  19. says

    While I despise Monckton and everything he stands for, he presents a fine example of stopped-clock correctness here.

    But the real criminals are those in high office who know Mr. Obama’s birth certificate is a forgery but willfully, sullenly do absolutely nothing about it.

    If they really believed it, they’d have to do something. If they just thought it was a wonderful way to rile up ignorant bigoted peons, they’d do nothing concrete but make snide allegations and oblique references to appeal to the mouth-breathers whose votes they court.

  20. jnorris says

    One wonders why his lordship just ask British intelligence to cough up the real birth certificate from the then British colony.

  21. iangould says

    It should be pointed out that the medical condition that causes Chris Monckton’s peculiar pop-eyed appearances can also cause mental probems.

    Monckton may not be mentally competent – which says a lot for the people who wait on his every word.

  22. iangould says

    Oh wait, that can’t be the case.

    See Chris has discovered a cure for Graves’ disease – along with Herpes, Multiple Sclerosis and AIDS.

    “2008-present: RESURREXI Pharmaceutical: Director responsible for invention and development of a broad-spectrum cure for infectious diseases. Patents have now been filed. Patients have been cured of various infectious diseases, including Graves’ Disease, multiple sclerosis, influenza, and herpes simplex VI. Our first HIV patient had his viral titre reduced by 38% in five days, with no side-effects. Tests continue.”

    http://www.ukip.org/content/latest-news/1675-christopher-a-man-of-many-talents

  23. dingojack says

    infraredeyes (#17) – In the Monckton family you don’t have go back very far. While it’s a technically ‘gift of the monarch’, the dear old queen doesn’t get much say, so it’s more a gift of the Royal College of Arms (and the Duke of Norfolk as Earl Marshal).

    ;) Dingo

  24. dickspringer says

    It is my understanding that a “natural born” citizen is one who is an American by birth, not by naturalization. Since no one disputes that his mother was American, I don’t understand the relevance of his place of birth. After all, Mitt Romney’s father was born in Mexico of American parents and his eligibility for the presidency was not questioned, and John McCain was also born outside the US. My guess is that Obama’s darker complexion is the real problem.

  25. Brain Hertz says

    He isnt a real Lord, insofar as any Lord can be considered real, he is however a massive arse.

    No, he’s a real Lord. He’s just not a member of the House of Lords, since his peerage is hereditary and does not entitle him to membership of the upper chamber (although it would have in the fairly recent past).

  26. StevoR says

    “But no. Let’s crack a limp joke, limply apologize and limply lose the election…” – Vicount Chris Monckton.

    Yeah, republicans do go do that. Sounds good to me. Especially that last part.

  27. slc1 says

    Re dickspringer @ #29

    Actually, the fact that George Romney was born in Mexico was the subject of considerable debate as to his eligibility at the time. However, he wasn’t in the race long enough for it to become a major issue, having committed political suicide by accurately stating that he was brainwashed during a fact finding trip to Vietnam.

  28. blf says

    You don’t have to be born in the USAlien or any of its territories to be a “natural-born” citizen. I myself am a case in point. I was indisputably born in a foreign country but am nonetheless a “natural born” citizen (albeit with dual nationality). I have a document from the State Department, issued by the consulate(? embassy?) in that country, entitled something like (it’s in safe-keeping and hence not readily accessible) Certificate of Natural-Born Citizen Born Abroad. As I understand it, the critical point in my case is my parents were only temporarily abroad at the time of my birth.

  29. says

    blf:

    I feel I’m on safe ground saying this (as I strongly suspect that you are not a member of the Party of Pissed-0ff KKKrazzeepants People) that you should not run for president. The nation could not bear the emotional or fiscal cost of the ensuing investigation.

    Monkeypoo is a Lord, he’s on the peerage list. Apparently he’s wrong on other aspects of his “entitlement”:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jul/18/climate-monckton-member-house-lords

  30. Chiroptera says

  31. dmcclean says

    @35
    And those or similar retroactive amendments form a crucial link in the chain of Sen. McCain’s natural born citizenship, so it’s not the validity of retroactivity that the fever swamps are disputing.

  32. slc1 says

    Re Chiroptera @ #35

    If Obama was born in Hawaii, it makes no difference. The theory is that, if he was born in, say, Kenya, then his mother would not have been resident for 5 consecutive years after her 14th birthday (she was not yet 18). The legislation in effect at the time of his birth was 5 years. Later legislation lowered the time to 2 consecutive years. I’m still waiting for the birthers to show that Ms. Denham was ever in Kenya.

    As I have opined previously, if anyone actually came up with definitive proof (Corsi’s smoking gun is a cap pistol) that Obama was born in Kenya, it would be an interesting Constitutional question as to which law should be applied. One could make an argument that the earlier law was applicable because it was in effect at the time of his birth. On the other hand, one could argue that the 14th Amendment’s equal protection clause implies that the later law should be applied, as it was in force at the time of the subject election. My suspicion is that the Supreme Court would probably punt, either saying that the litigants lacked standing, or that they had no authority to rule on the matter as removal of the president is a Congressional prerogative via impeachment.

  33. slc1 says

    Re Chiroptera @# #35

    By the way, I’m not so sure that the later law as written was to be applied retroactively.

  34. Michael Heath says

    slc1 writes:

    I’m not so sure that the later law as written was to be applied retroactively.

    I hadn’t encountered that assertion either; chiroptera, do you have a cite?

  35. Chiroptera says

    slc1 and Michael Heath:

    I do not have a cite. Just a vague memory back in the early days of 2009 when the birthers were out in full force, reading that there were cases where the law was applied retroactively.

    The source could have been wrong, or I could be misremembering. This wouldn’t be the first time where my memory was faulty.

  36. caseloweraz says

    “Patients have been cured of various infectious diseases, including Graves’ Disease, multiple sclerosis, influenza, and herpes simplex VI. Our first HIV patient had his viral titre reduced by 38% in five days, with no side-effects.”

    It’s truly remarkable that Christopher Monckton (aka TVMOB) was able to develop this wide-spectrum cure. But it’s puzzling that leading medical institutions are not using it to actually cure people of these scourges.

    “Tests continue.”

    Oh, that explains it. But then, why is the discoverer spending so much time galivanting about the globe, holding forth in hallucinatory wise about global warming? Surely he should be overseeing the double-blind testing of his cure, with a view to making it available to the public.

    /sarc

    By the way: As far as I’ve been able to discover, the idea that multiple sclerosis is an infectious disease is, to borrow a phrase, “only a theory.”

    Another thing I wonder about is why, now that TVMOB is no longer associated with the UKIP, why do their pages continue to promote him?

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