Black Wingnut Babbles Incoherently About Obama

See if you can make any sense out of this incoherent screed from William Owens of the Coalition of African-American Pastors, a group of black anti-gay ministers who are railing against Obama for supporting marriage equality. This was on the Janet Mefferd radio show:

Mefferd: I wonder if he had really considered what the reaction would be because he has taken the African American community so much for granted, the support of your community so much for granted, do you think he had any inkling that he would get the reaction of a lot of the black pastors that we’ve seen?

Owens: I don’t think he did. I think he felt that he could continue to do as he’s been doing. He’ll take up the cause of the Latinos, he’ll take up the cause of the homosexuals, but it’s like the African Americans don’t exist. And he said I’m not the president of the African Americans, I’m the president of America. What if the white leaders who were in office when the civil rights bill had passed, what if they had said that, ‘We’re the politicians for the white community’? We wouldn’t have gotten a right to vote, we wouldn’t have gotten the rights we enjoy today. So we’re going to take him on even more, as a matter of fact this is one of my last interviews until we come out with a new news conference next week, we’re coming out fighting.

Uh, what? He quoted Obama relatively accurately, then compared it to a white politician saying the exact opposite.

Mefferd: There seems to be a lack of fear of God in a lot of these activists, a lot of these people who are moving forward as if this is no big deal but in fact this is really an affront to God, would you say that’s the case?

Owens: I would say that’s the case. It’s like waving your thing in God’s face and saying, ‘You don’t matter.’ That’s exactly what I think. They do not honor God’s word; they don’t honor Him; not God’s people.

You’re right. God doesn’t matter, because God doesn’t exist. We do not base public policy on the imaginings of religious people.

21 comments on this post.
  1. Reginald Selkirk:

    Owens: It’s like waving your thing in God’s face…

    Waving your “thing,” eh? We know what’s on his mind.

  2. Timid Atheist:

    And as usual that pastor is erasing the fact that there are gay people of color who are believers. It’s disgusting all around.

  3. Michael Heath:

    Janet Mefferd:

    I wonder if [President Obama] had really considered what the reaction would be because he has taken the African American community so much for granted, the support of your community so much for granted, do you think he had any inkling that he would get the reaction of a lot of the black pastors that we’ve seen?

    Ms. Mefferd seems to be unconsciously projecting a concession that President Obama is not exploiting the power of the office to focus on benefiting those with similar skin color to the president. I bet we can find video or audio exists where she argues the opposite.

  4. Doug Little:

    There seems to be a lack of fear of God in a lot of these activists,

    Well to be honest I got over the fear of the dark and the boogie man when I was about 8 years old. Plus it’s not like God has shown himself to be effective at stamping out dissent he’s either incompetent, doesn’t care or non-existent.

  5. d cwilson:

    Meanwhile, in the parallel universe that Foxtards and Dittheads live in, Obama’s administration has been “all about” black reparations, because, you know, New Black Panther Party.

    And space reptiles.

  6. John Hinkle:

    Mefferd: We are both bigots of the first degree, and we’re wrapping our bigotry in God, thus imparting self-proclaimed righteousness to an otherwise detestable position, would you say that’s the case?

    Owens: I would say that’s the case. And I’m hoping to make a few bucks off this too.

    Mefferd: Oh yeah, me too!

  7. eric:

    There seems to be a lack of fear of God in a lot of these activists

    That’s because whenever I do bad things, He smites New Orleans with water, Texas with draught, or the midwest red states with tornados.

  8. Larry:

    re #7:

    My thoughts, exactly, eric. Given their god’s notoriously bad aim, I can sin and blaspheme and then rest comfortably knowing that some god-botherers in the holy roller states will be punished.

  9. vmanis1:

    If they genuinely feared God, they would stop bearing false witness, and start loving their neighbors as themselves. Maybe we should all wait for that to happen.

  10. chrislrob:

    Holy shit, he *does* say “thing”! I listened to it 3 times. Shaking your dick at god *is* a pretty bold move, even I can admit that.

    I would love to know how many unpaid folks are actually active in this group.

  11. snafu:

    We do not base public policy on the imaginings of religious people.

    I really wish this was true.

  12. nalapatha:

    I found your wording “Black Wingnut” upsetting. I know the piece is about African-American pastors and “African-American wingnut babbles…” but reading this as a black person living outside of the US, I found the use of the label “black” in this context to be offensive.

  13. grumpyoldfart:

    There are Christians who believe it is actually better to talk about things they don’t understand because God will not allow them to say the wrong thing. No matter how garbled their message, God will come along and tidy up the details after the words have been spoken. [Beats thinking]

  14. kerrietiedemann:

    This reminds me of what happened in MD last year. When the house was discussing a bill to legalize same-sex marriage in this state it got shot down before they even put it to a vote because who was screaming out? The black christian pastors in baltimore city. And the papers and radio shows highlighted several black christians in baltimore who said that they knew a good chunk of these pastors’ congregants didn’t share the same views because they knew of many outed gay members and there was a general acceptance amongst the younger members despite what they heard the elders preaching at the pulpit. It’s so frustrating that church leaders can be so out of touch with their followers, you’d think more followers would just walk away.

  15. F:

    nalapatha

    Read this for understanding:
    Homophobe Black Pastors Brand Obama Judas
    In fact, all the posts at are awesome and highly educational.

  16. F:

    OK, weird.

    All the posts at Black Skeptics are awesome and highly educational.

  17. chrislrob:

    Nalapatha,

    I’m a black person living in America and I can understand that it might seem kind of…awkward to phrase it like that. But right now, homophobic organizations are actively recruiting black clergy as part of a concerted effort to rally support against gay marriage. They see black people as both a source of votes and as cover for violating the rights of others, because nobody knows civil rights like black folks, right? So, if they’re against it…

  18. dan4:

    I’m seriously wondering if Owens was drunk when he did this interview. Thinking that Obama’s “I’m the president of everyone” sentiment is the SAME as a white politician saying he only represents Caucasians? Bizarrely going “blue” with the “It’s like waving your think in God’s face…” (which sounds like something out of an Andrew Dice Clay routine)?

  19. embertine:

    eric @ #7: I initially misread that as “tomatoes”, which puzzled me mightily.

  20. stace:

    God might want to go back and revise that commandment about having no gods before him. “and thou shalt not wave thy thing in my face.”

  21. chrislrob:

    “God might want to go back and revise that commandment about having no gods before him. “and thou shalt not wave thy thing in my face.”

    LOL! “Thou shalt not waveth it in the morning. Neither shalt thou waveth it in the evening. In the midnight hour, too, shalt thou not waveth it…

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