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Aug 05 2012

King Has New Birther Theory

Rep. Steve King was asked at a townhall meeting why he wasn’t spending more time investigating Obama’s birth certificate and he gave a fascinating answer. After reasonably concluding that no one put two fake birth announcements into the national archives almost 50 years later, he came up with a new theory for how it might have happened:

“Before he was sworn in for the presidency, we went down into the Library of Congress and we found a microfiche there of two newspapers — only two newspapers in Hawaii — each of them had published the birth of Barack Obama,” the congressman explained. “It would have been awfully hard to fraudulently file the birth notice of Barack Obama being born in Hawaii and get that into our public libraries and that microfiche they keep of all the newspapers published.”

King added: “That doesn’t mean there aren’t some other explanations on how they might’ve announced that by telegram from Kenya. The list goes on.”

But the Iowa Republican concluded that there was no point “drilling into that now” because “even if it turned out that Barack Obama was conclusively not born in America, I don’t think we could get that case sold between now and November.”

Yes, they might have faked those birth announcements when he was born by sending a telegram from Kenya, knowing that almost five decades later he would want to run for president and he had to be a citizen to do so. I’m sure Saul Alinsky and George Soros are behind the whole thing.

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  1. 1
    MikeMa

    Steve King is vying with Louie Gohmert for dumbest man in America.

  2. 2
    daved

    Not to mention that such a telegram would have had no effect anyway — the birth announcements came directly from the hospitals in Honolulu in those days.

  3. 3
    rturpin

    The fascinating thing about conspiracy theorists is that they manage a) to correctly dismiss as nonsense some fantastic notions, b) to push some other set of notions equally fantastic supporting the same conclusion, and c) to ally themselves with other conspiracy theorists who hold completely different views of what is nonsense or not in that regard. You see this not just with birthers, but also those who believe in alien visitation, etc.

  4. 4
    Pen

    I hope I never have to prove my place of birth beyond producing a birth certificate. It’s quite fancy-pants stuff having your birth announced in the newspapers. Hey, I would only do that if I was sure my kid was going to become president. There’s obviously a conspiracy! !!!

  5. 5
    D. C. Sessions

    Trained from birth to believe not only in the absence of evidence but in the face of it. Then to be taught that the greatest virtue is to hold all the tighter to a belief as the evidence against it mounts.

    WTF do you expect? King is a role model, the perfect product of the way we raise kids in this country.

  6. 6
    Michael Heath

    D.C. Sessions:

    Trained from birth to believe not only in the absence of evidence but in the face of it. Then to be taught that the greatest virtue is to hold all the tighter to a belief as the evidence against it mounts.

    WTF do you expect? King is a role model, the perfect product of the way we raise kids in this country.

    Which I continue to assert is a type of child abuse. Abuse which does more harm to humanity than some Catholic priests raping children and the church purposefully hiding their crime.

  7. 7
    reverendrodney

    A telegram from Kenya? That’s a new lead for Sheriff Joe! Send the posse. Included Steven Segal. Make sure he wears that outfit he got at the Swat Team Supply Store and let him stand in the turret of the armored car.

  8. 8
    Aliasalpha

    So these alleged Kenyan telegraph senders have the ability to provide very specific forged evidence five decades in advance for their power play to install a ‘meet the new boss, same as the old boss’ president?

    In the face of this clear implication of either flawless psychic precognition or time travel, how the hell is the story a question of whether this bloke should have been president?

  9. 9
    raven

    Rep. King is a failure as a fundie xian wingnut.

    Where are the Space Reptiles? It’s always the Space Reptiles in there somewhere!!!

  10. 10
    timgueguen

    Sometimes it seems like the Birther theories are actually old Cold War conspiracy theories about Soviet plots with the serial numbers filed off.

  11. 11
    Bronze Dog

    Rep. King is a failure as a fundie xian wingnut.

    Where are the Space Reptiles? It’s always the Space Reptiles in there somewhere!!!

    I’m curious how the Space Pope fits in. We know he’s from space, and his reptilian nature is so widely known, it’s a rhetorical question to ask if he’s reptilian.

  12. 12
    brocasbrian

    Does it actually matter if he was born in Kenya? His mother was american. Wouldn’t he just have duel citizenship no matter where he was born? McCain was born in Panama and that was never relevant.

  13. 13
    Dennis N

    Did he go down to the LoC and check microfiches before Bush 2 was sworn in? Clinton? Bush 1? Reagan? Did anyone? I wonder what is different about our current president…

  14. 14
    D. C. Sessions

    Does it actually matter if he was born in Kenya? His mother was american.

    But his father wasn’t and that’s what counts.

  15. 15
    Nentuaby

    brocasbrian:

    Birther theories come along with some explanation of that. Sometimes it’s just plain ignorance; they don’t understand that fact. Sometimes it’s ignorant sexism– they only think jus soli is applicable through the father. Most commonly, it’s legal fantasy– they come up with some convoluted explanation for why she didn’t qualify to pass on citizenship. (She lived some time abroad, and there’s language somewhere in citizenship law about residence in the US for N years. It’s not applicable, but they like to read it out of context as being so.)

  16. 16
    BrianX

    Birther logic is as clear a case as you’ll find of assuming the conclusion. People like that are so sure of their pet conspiracy that they don’t care if the evidence doesn’t support it; they’ll just try to find different evidence.

  17. 17
    Dr X

    @DC Sessions

    But his father wasn’t [an American]and that’s what counts.

    And even if Obama’s father was an American, then his father would be Malcolm X or an American communist named Frank Marshall Davis. That wouldn’t legally disqualify Obama from holding public office, but it would definitely mean that Obama is a Mau Mau sympathizing, communist, Islamic radical, pro-gay agenda, anti-colonialist who is out to destroy America and kill or enslave all the white people–except for the gay Muslim ones who would still be forced to bow at the altar of liberal fascism where socialist health care would be rammed down their throats.

  18. 18
    davem

    Not only did they send a telegram from Kenya, knowing the names and telegraphic address of the local Hawaii newspapers, in a time when Kenya was a British colony, but they already knew that in 50 years time, a black president was an actual possibility in the USA. What foresight his father had!

  19. 19
    ehmm

    Hold on a minute.

    “even if it turned out that Barack Obama was conclusively not born in America, I don’t think we could get that case sold between now and November.”

    “If it turned out”? So after 4 years of this nonsense he’s still not sure, even after conceding the microfiche discovery? And why the hell does it matter to get it done before November?

    How about this; King isn’t a birther idiot at all. He’s a cynical, lying tool who, instead of stepping into the public arena with legitimate criticisms of Obama, has no problem playing on peoples fears and exploiting a manufactured and incredibly divisive faux controversy.

    What an ass.

  20. 20
    Midnight Rambler

    brocasbrian:

    Birther theories come along with some explanation of that. Sometimes it’s just plain ignorance; they don’t understand that fact. Sometimes it’s ignorant sexism– they only think jus soli is applicable through the father. Most commonly, it’s legal fantasy– they come up with some convoluted explanation for why she didn’t qualify to pass on citizenship. (She lived some time abroad, and there’s language somewhere in citizenship law about residence in the US for N years. It’s not applicable, but they like to read it out of context as being so.)

    Actually, with all the crazy crap they come up with, this one is actually right – the law at the time had a loophole such that citizenship wasn’t automatically granted to someone born abroad if the mother who was under 18, and Obama’s mother was just shy of her 18th birthday. It may have had to do with continuously living in the US, I forget the details, but it is true that if Obama had been born in another country then he wouldn’t have been born a citizen. The law has since been changed to eliminate that condition.

  21. 21
    slc1

    Re Mildnight Rambler @ #20

    Actually, the original law required that the one parent who was a citizen be resident in the US for 5 consecutive years starting at age 14. This would have required Obama’s mother to have been at least 19 when he was born, which she was a few weeks shy of. Later the law was changed to shorten the residence period to 2 years.

    If, in fact, the birther clowns could ever come up with credible evidence that Obama was born outside the US, this would make an interesting constitutional law case. The question is, which law should be applied, the one in force when Obama was born or the later law? An argument can be made both ways. The court could decide that the earlier law was in force, which would make Obama not a birthright citizen. Or it could decide that the later law should be applied based on the Equal Protection clause of the 14th amendment. Fortunately, the evidence is overwhelming that he was born in Hawaii on Aug. 4, 1961, making the argument moot.

  22. 22
    Raging Bee

    The most important question is, did Obama cheer for any Kenyan athletes in the Olympics? Bigo — er, enquiring minds want to know…

  23. 23
    azportsider

    “Did he go down to the LoC and check microfiches before Bush 2 was sworn in? Clinton? Bush 1? Reagan? Did anyone? I wonder what is different about our current president…”

    Must be the ears…

  24. 24
    Improbable Joe, bearer of the Official SpokesGuitar

    You mean they had the foresight to give their Kenyan Manchurian Candidate fake birth announcements, but didn’t have the basic common sense to give him a more Anglo-sounding name? Dumb dumb dumb dumb DUUUUMB!

  25. 25
    democommie

    “…if the evidence doesn’t support it; they’ll just try to find different evidence.”

    Find? More likely that they’ll manufacture it.

  26. 26
    Raging Bee

    Thanks, Joe, you’ve just hit on a glaring weakness common to nearly all conspiracy theories: the Evil Conspirators are both geniuses and morons, and toggle back and forth between the two extremes, from minute to minute, as necessary to make the theory work.

    Oh, and I’d just like to go OT for a bit to say that the recent successful landing of our latest Mars rover once again proves that libertarianism is pure horseshit: Big Gummint can and does indeed drive innovation, create jobs, and steer a free-enterprise economy to do the gretest good for the greatest number. Anyone who says otherwise has once again been proven a liar.

  27. 27
    kermit.

    I would have a few questions for the birthers, if I thought they could understand them:

    1. If these folks knew that baby Barrack would become president, or at least have a real shot at it, why didn’t they just fly him to Hawaii for the birth?

    2. How did the Kenyan Illuminati know that this particular baby would be presidential fodder? Or did they have an army of babies, all potential candidates, like on The Boys from Brazil?

    3. Are the birthers claiming that the Kenyan elites can predict at birth who would win a US election, but the GOP couldn’t come up with anyone better than Romney this time around, or win more than about half the US elections? Seems like those Kenyans are a lost smarter and better organized than the GOP big dogs.

    D. C. Sessions: Trained from birth to believe not only in the absence of evidence but in the face of it. Then to be taught that the greatest virtue is to hold all the tighter to a belief as the evidence against it mounts.

    I don’t have anything to add to this; I just thought it bears repeating.

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