Muslim Cleric: Women to Blame for Rape


A Muslim street preacher in Toronto explains that the real reason women are raped is because of that crazy freedom thing that allows them to wear clothing that reveals their skin, so we really should do away with “democratic freedom” to stop it from happening.

I wanted to mention that the reason why these sex attacks are continuously happening is because the Canadian laws, which gives too much freedom to women, are the cause of these sex attacks. It has been revealed that every 5 seconds a woman is being sexually assaulted in North America. Women in North America are falling victims of the Democratic Freedom that you they passionly believe in. The reason why a woman gets raped is because of the way she dress. Women dress so provocatively so much that they receive too much attention for themselves and that attention at times leads to death.

If the law enforcements and the Canadian politicians were very serious about solving this problem, they would introduce laws that would make it illegal for women to dress provocatively in the streets. It is true that many people would object to this if that were to happen. and this will definitely create protests and opposition. However by arresting sexual predators is not going to solve the problem because as long women continue to dress like this there will always be perverts and rapist who will continue to remain on the loose.

Well yes, you moron. And obviously rapists will stop being rapists if they can just go through life without seeing a woman’s skin. Women who wear burqas are never raped, right?

You should take your example from the way Muslim women dress. Why does Muslim women who wear long dress and covers her head aren’t targeted for sex attacks? Why is it that Rapists and sexual predators only target women that dress so provocatively? Because Muslim women have nothing to show in regards to her body.

Uh, they don’t only target women who dress provocatively, you bigoted fucking asshole.

Comments

  1. says

    Why are you giving so much attention to a street-preacher who wrote a letter to the editor? Why is this guy any more newsworthy than any of the thousands of other raving loonies and idiots who clog the streets of every other city on Earth? Seriously, save the bashing for the scumbags who MATTER. All this post does is give an irrelevant loser relevance. That’s how Fred Phelps became so prominent in our public doscourse, and it hasn’t done anyone any good.

  2. Drew says

    Come on Ed,

    As has been shown in many many trials in the Muslim world, women who wear burqas aren’t raped, they’re sinners and adulteresses. You should know that by now.

  3. leftwingfox says

    The Toronto Sun put that on the front page, along with his photo.

    Let’s put this in perspective, shall we?

    I wanted to mention that the reason why these acid attacks are continuously happening is because the Canadian laws, which gives too much freedom to women, are the cause of these acid attacks. It has been revealed that every 5 seconds a woman is being assaulted with acid in North America. Women in North America are falling victims of the Democratic Freedom that you they passionly believe in. The reason why a woman gets acid thrown in her face is because of the way she dress. Women dress so provocatively so much that they receive too much attention for themselves and that attention at times leads to death.

    If the law enforcements and the Canadian politicians were very serious about solving this problem, they would introduce laws that would make it illegal for women to dress provocatively in the streets. It is true that many people would object to this if that were to happen. and this will definitely create protests and opposition. However by arresting people who throw acid in women’s faces is not going to solve the problem because as long women continue to dress like this there will always be moral monsters like myself who will continue to remain on the loose.

    Because really, that’s exactly where this leads.

  4. Gregory in Seattle says

    Why does Muslim women who wear long dress and covers her head aren’t targeted for sex attacks?

    Because Muslim men are see women as property, not as human beings? Because Muslim men are so sex-crazed that the sight of an ankle or a chin will drive them into an uncontrollable lust? Because Muslim men want an excuse that lets them sexually assault “immodest” women and then blame it all on the victim?

  5. says

    What’s telling is what is missing: the word “men”. In that whole screed, he can’t even admit who it is that are “provoked” into “sex attacks”.

  6. anubisprime says

    It is not some raggedy half assed street preacher that needs a slapdown per se…it is the whole fucking mind set that spawns these ideas.

    It is the Mullahs, Imans and spiritual leaders of all persuasions that promote and boast these medieval bronze age pontifications..it is the sexual dysfunction that they all badly suffer from, it is the fact these slime balls are not fit for 21st century society.

    That is the problem ..not some mentally challenged sycophantic dipstick of a wannabee spiritual hero.

    The real problem lies underneath that malady..the main problem is they do so because they can!
    Governments bend over backwards to be ever so tolerant and inclusive to a section of society that have no intentions of respecting the boundaries of speech and action within Western society, that have no intention of being inclusive or tolerant themselves.

    They have every intention of gaining what advantage and position they can.
    From government funds to being able to walk the streets and spew vacuous and misogynistic putrescence without repercussions…because they can.

  7. longstreet63 says

    Oh, but when Muslim women in burqas are raped, it’s still their fault. After all, getting raped is often against the law in such places.
    QED, right?

    Sometimes freedom of speech seems to suck, but then I reflect that if we didn’t have it, the people making the rules would be people like this guy, rather than, say, me.

  8. slc1 says

    As I pointed out in a comment on the Schlafly thread, Ms. Schlafly is quite in bed with this fucktard.

  9. erichoug says

    My father lived in Saudi Arabia for around 6 years during the time of the first gulf war and he had a completely different perspective on muslims and sex.

    He felt that rape wasn’t any less prevalent in Saudi than it was in any other country. The only difference is that the raped women has almost no recourse for justice. In many cases the woman’s family will actually kill her after she has been raped to avenge their honor. Kinda puts a damper on reporting, that.

    The other problem is with what they call third country nationals. This would typically be domestic workers from the Phillipines, Bangladesh, India or other countries. Often times the Saudi employer considers these workers to be their property and sexual assault and rape of these workers is commonplace. Here again, the women have almost no recourse to justice. If they complain to the police it is more likely that they will end up in jail than their attacker. And MANY of them will languish in jail for years and years, mainly because for them to be released they must show a plane ticket back to their home country. This is a near impossibility as they are no longer getting the fare from their employer/rapist/accuser but are now relying on family or friends for whom the cost of the ticket may be more than a year’s salary.

    The governments of their home country are often little or no help. The Phillpines makes a sizeable chunk of it’s GDP from these overseas workers and other poor countries are not willing to rock the boat for a maid.

    So, you get a system where rape is almost never reported and when it is reported the women raped is far more likely to face jail than the man.

    So really it isn’t safer for women in Muslim countries, it is safer for rapists.

  10. says

    It should be noted that the Toronto Sun, and its sister papers across Canada, are sort of the Canadian version of the New York Post or the British tabloids. Toronto blogger Randy McDonald had a couple of posts this week on the article, noting that the reaction of many Muslims to this preacher’s nonsense was negative, and that the Sun isn’t exactly in a strong position when it comes to discussing women’s rights.
    http://rfmcdpei.livejournal.com/3125608.html
    http://rfmcdpei.livejournal.com/3127416.html

  11. mythbri says

    Well, yeah. Of course being raped “leads to death” when your religion prizes women’s “sexual purity” above their very lives.

  12. gingerbaker says

    “Why are you giving so much attention to a street-preacher who wrote a letter to the editor? “

    Obviously, Ed wants us to see what a real rape apologist looks like.

  13. zippythepinhead says

    On the other hand, the more clothes a man wears the more likely it is he will be shot (e.g., wearing a hoodie). The best thing is when a man sees a woman is for him to take off his clothes and put them on her. That way we’ll all be much safer.

  14. leftwingfox says

    10: Yeah, that’s one of the few times I’ve agreed with a Sun story.

    It’s a useful connection through: what this guy has said is little different from the police officer (also from Toronto), who claimed that women should avoid dressing like sluts in order not to be victimized; the event which launched the Slutwalk protests.

    It’s only because there are millions of people living in nations which follow this preacher’s ideals, that we can see those words for what they really are, and the fundamental violence and desire for control and domination which underlies that sentiment.

  15. tassilo says

    And of course, marrying a 12 or 14 year old girl and deflowering her during the wedding night is just good old muslim tradition. It has nothing whatsoever to do with rape, or Allah forbid – child rape.

  16. says

    I have this odd feeling like I’m on the verge of formulating some kind of political counterpart to quantum mechanics.

    Reporting a rape is a bit of a tricky issue, but in general, we want a realistic idea of how often it really occurs because we want to deal with the problem. We want to observe the incidence of rape so that we can change (reduce) it.

    People and governments that emphasize the “need” for women to cover up, spin stories where the victim is a temptress, and otherwise blame the victim essentially cover up the incidence by adding cultural barriers that discourage reporting. They apparently don’t want to observe the incidence. If the rape incidence isn’t quantified, it’s in a politico-quantum indeterminate state, so no one knows how serious the problem is, therefore they can use the politico-quantum uncertainty as an excuse for inaction.

    And then we come along and start trying to collapse the wave function. The fact that we bring attention to rape is used as “evidence” that rape is rampant in the region, while the uncertainty of an anti-reporting region is asserted to be an absence of rape because there are few, if any victims willing and able to endure the hostility for daring to report the crime.

  17. d cwilson says

    erichoug @9:

    You can see parallels to much of that behavior in the Antebellum South, where slaveowners thought nothing of taking sexual advantage of their domestic slaves.

    Gregory in Seatle @4:

    Women are actually less than property in many of these countries. In someone had “borrowed” say, a man’s car without his permission, he could still demand charges and compensation. He wouldn’t blame the car and set it on fire or strangle it.

  18. says

    A British Muslim woman was asked to leave a school’s parents’ night in Manchester for wearing the veil. The college cited “safety” and “security” reasons. Wearing the face veil is not obligatory, and is a freedom of choice issue. We understand if teachers are forbidden from wearing it as it can sometimes interfere with communication during the lesson. Children may also have to follow a particular dress code, but for a parent to be stopped doesn’t make sense.”

    In March of this year, a Muslim woman was stopped from sitting on a UK jury in a murder trial because the judge ruled her facial expressions could not be seen.

    Britain, unlike France, has not yet introduced a nationwide ban on face veils.

    Institutional terrorism! An official could easily have taken her aside, verified her identity and then let her sit down and participate if they are so worried about security! If she had come in a bikini or a micro mini shirt they would have welcomed her, shameless hypocrats!!! If a woman wears a bikini she is considered liberated, but if she wears a burqa, then she is fit to be killed – as per you. Great, this is liberal.

    A veil ban for “safety reasons”, sure… How on earth will the ability to look at someone’s FACE prevent terrorist attacks? It’s not like terrorists carry bomb belts strapped across their faces, or hide daggers up their nostrils. This “safety” nonsense is no more than a thinly veiled (no pun intended) excuse for blatant islamophobia.

    People are saying bravo UK; buts it not the government who did this just some racist teachers! A lot of people hate Muslims in the UK, this is what the bbc and other media government colluding organisations want; they want people to hate Muslims as it makes it easier to invade countries like iraq, afganistan, libya, syria and iran. I’m a Muslim and I hate islamaphobia! The UK media has ceased to be an organisation presenting news. It’s a propaganda machine. Preaching hate negates your own philosophies and principles of freedom and liberty. You call it “security measures”, but that is also what the Nazi’s used to call it.
    IA
    http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk

  19. scotlyn says

    Modesty is a fallacy societies fall into when they decide confronting rape is harder than appeasing/enabling rapists.

  20. Stevarious says

    @iftikharahmad

    If a woman wears a bikini she is considered liberated, but if she wears a burqa, then she is fit to be killed – as per you.

    There has never been said on this blog anything remotely resembling this statement. I’d ask where you possibly got this from, but it seems clear that you just completely made it up.
    Your rant is as incoherent as it is irrelevant to the subject the post is actually about.

  21. says

    And when an 80 year old lady is raped by a man who breaks into her apartment to steal, of course she was just asking for it because she wore a revealing night gown.

  22. says

    dumbfuck commenter wrote:

    If a woman wears a bikini she is considered liberated, but if she wears a burqa, then she is fit to be killed – as per you. Great, this is liberal.

    As per who, exactly? Certainly not me.

    I’m a Muslim and I hate islamaphobia!

    Good for you. I’m an atheist and I hate Islamophobia too. I write about it frequently and not a week goes by that I don’t blast idiots like Pam Geller and Robert Spencer for it. But that has nothing to do with this at all. It isn’t Islamophobic to point to an actual Muslim preacher who thinks that women should be forced by law to cover up and that, if they don’t, it’s okay if they’re raped. That’s fucking barbaric and it deserves to be condemned. Islamophobia comes into play when right wing idiots pretend that all Muslims feel the same way this asshole does, because they don’t. But that doesn’t make him not an asshole.

  23. says

    There’s always deBeauxOs’ suggestion (emphasis in original).

    Well, I want a law making it legal and mandatory for men who believe they will sexually assault women because of the way they’re dressed, or for those who have violated women for those very reasons, to be given skewers to poke their eyes out.

    Or how this: If you don’t like what you see, just close your eyes or turn the fuck away. Rather than engaging in victim blaming, take responsibility and don’t rape. It’s that simple.

  24. caseloweraz says

    Zippythepinhead wrote: “On the other hand, the more clothes a man wears the more likely it is he will be shot (e.g., wearing a hoodie). The best thing is when a man sees a woman is for him to take off his clothes and put them on her. That way we’ll all be much safer.

    You would have won the Internets for today if you had written “sees a woman immodestly clothed.” But it does raise the question whether a woman wearing a hoodie on the street is more likely to be shot, as a threat, than raped, as a temptation.

    Continuing in this absurd vein, I think another solution suggests itself: If a western woman finds she is the target of a rapist, she should immediately bare her boobs, thereby causing an earthquake and dissuading her attacker. (Logically, this should work for Muslim women too, but they might not have time to comply.)

  25. Sastra says

    Ayan Hirsi Ali grew up in a Muslim culture which assured her that women were granted much more respect in those countries and societies where they veiled themselves. Men see how meek and modest they are and treat them with gentle courtesy. Obviously. That makes sense.

    She discovered instead that the exact opposite was true. In countries where women felt free to wear skin-revealing short-shorts and halter tops men would walk by without comment when they passed them on the street. In countries where women covered up as much of themselves as they could, however, they would be routinely sneered at, taunted, and even pushed off the sidewalk for the crime of walking in public.

    Though this seems obvious to me, it came to her like a blinding revelation. Hear something often enough, mix it with religious truth, and anything can be seen as ‘common sense.’

  26. billydee says

    #22: This actually happened to my mother-in-law. Someone broke into our house one night. He was able to sneak into our bedroom without our hearing him. He took my pants which were lying on the floor into the living room and removed all the money from my wallet. Then he went into my m-i-l’s room and climbed in bed with her. She was wearing a long flannel nightgown. She was 70. She was able to scream my name. When I opened my bedroom door the attacker came out of her room. I screamed at the top of my lungs and he ran. I chased him out the front door. I did not follow him because our house was surrounded by shrubbery and I didn’t want to be ambushed.
    My mother-in-law later told us that he said , “You need this.”
    Why don’t people understand that rape is a crime of violence and not sex?

  27. Victor says

    Maybe this shared belief can bring together the crazy fundamentalists of Christianity, Islam, and Judaism.

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