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Jun 28 2012

OMG! Obama’s Turning the Boy Scouts Gay!

Chuck Norris has a Worldnutdaily column, which may well have been written by someone else, using the familiar rhetorical trick of “just asking questions.” Hey, he’s just asking questions, the presumed answers to which point to a rather silly conspiracy theory that Obama is trying to create a “pro-gay Boy Scouts.” His evidence for this? A member of the Boy Scouts national board who wants to change the organization’s official discrimination against gays has ties to Obama.

A Boy Scouts of America national board member, James Turley, who is also global chairman and CEO of the accounting firm Ernst & Young, recently said he “will work from within to seek a change” to overturn the BSA policy that bans gay scouts and leaders. But is Turley working on his own initiative, or has the White House prodded him with perks and favors?

Is it a coincidence that Turley came out swinging against the BSA’s century-old policy to ban gays from leadership and that he has such close affiliations with the pro-gay Obama administration?

Is it a coincidence that Turley and his wife, Lynne, were just guests at a state dinner hosted by President Obama and first lady Michelle Obama in honor of U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron at the White House on March 14, 2012?

Is it a coincidence that Turley was nominated to President Barack Obama’s Export Council in 2010?

Is it a coincidence Turley was granted a seat on an investment advisory panel which met with none other than Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in Moscow on Oct. 17, 2011?

WTF does Putin have to do with anything? Your guess is as good as mine. It goes on and on like this, with the implication being that if Turley wants to change the anti-gay policy of the Boy Scouts, it’s all Obama’s fault and the president is controlling him, or perhaps bribing him, to do it all. There isn’t a shred of evidence for that, of course, but being a wingnut largely means that evidence is never needed to spin a dark tale of the Evil Ones doing Evil Things.

I couldn’t agree more with Bob Gates, former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, when he explained: “I think that American leadership is vital to peace and prosperity and the advancement of democracy in the world, and that requires having strong leaders. And I don’t think there’s any organization in the world, certainly not in the United States, that better prepares young men for leadership in this country than the Boy Scouts of America – in teaching leadership skills, in teaching values, in teaching importance of standing up for what’s right.”

Great. So they should teach that anti-gay bigotry and discrimination is wrong, because that is the right — the moral — position.

Even President John F. Kennedy proudly proclaimed at the 50th anniversary celebration of the BSA: “For more than 50 years, Scouting has played an important part in the lives of the Boy Scouts of this nation. It has helped to mold character, to form friendships, to provide a worthwhile outlet for the natural energies of growing boys and to train these boys to become good citizens of the future. … In a very real sense, the principles learned and practiced as Boy Scouts add to the strength of America and her ideals.”

So why are atheists and gay people locked out from those wonderful things about the Boy Scouts? Oh, that’s right — Chuck Norris doesn’t like those people, so they don’t count.

Hasn’t America reached a new low in its history when the president of the United States (and the honorary president of the BSA!) distances himself and his administration from the Boy Scouts of America and yet invites groups like the Secular Student Alliance to participate in its faith and college missions?

Nope. I think it’s great.

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  1. 1
    matty1

    Any organisation that started with a book called Scouting for Boys is in no position to criticize homosexual tendencies in others.

  2. 2
    oranje

    Right, in the spirit of that article, I can only respond with questions?

    Is it possible that WorldNetDaily is detrimental to the social and political health of America?

    Is it possible Chuck Norris has been kicked in the head too much?

    Hey, I’m just asking questions here.

  3. 3
    The Lorax

    The most disappointing thing about Chuck Norris is that none of the jokes are funny anymore. Oh well. Better find a new meme, everyone. How about ponies?

    Colt Scouts of Equestria: Love and Tolerate. Also, muffins.

  4. 4
    slc1

    Rather interesting as one of the founders of the Boy Scouts, Lord Baden Powell, is reputed to have been gay himself.

  5. 5
    Alareth

    Perhaps it’s worse than we think and Turley is secretly Bill Ayers.

    I mean if we are going to go all crazy conspiracy on this, lets go BIG.

  6. 6
    busterggi

    Is it a coincedence that Chuck Norris is one of the expendables in his new movie?

    Just asking.

  7. 7
    baal

    It’s nice to see the SSA singled out. It means their presence is getting felt. (down side will be increased harassment for the SSA)

  8. 8
    Brain Hertz

    Is it a coincidence Turley was granted a seat on an investment advisory panel which met with none other than Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin in Moscow on Oct. 17, 2011?

    [scratches head] so… the Russians are in on it too?

  9. 9
    slavdude

    Is it possible Chuck Norris has been kicked in the head too much?

    No, but maybe his ghostwriter was.

  10. 10
    usingreason

    “Is it possible Chuck Norris has been kicked in the head too much?”

    Chuck Norris does not get kicked in the head. Chuck Norris uses his head to break your toes.

  11. 11
    scienceavenger

    The boy scouts are already gay, just look at the scarves. NEXT!

  12. 12
    dingojack

    All the football players need is one exhibit: Chuckie.
    Lawyer: Your Honour I call attention to our exhibit A. See what damage repeated blows to the head can do to brain function and general intellect. The prosecution rests, Your Honour.
    Absolute winner!
    :) Dingo
    ——–
    PS: Get a group of over-sexed pubescent boys, stick them all in one tent overnight, what could possibly go wrong?
    PPS: Doesn’t surprise me that Baden-Powell was (allegedly) gay. Those shorts. A gaydar explosion waiting to happen. :)

  13. 13
    John Hinkle

    Allowing gay scouts and leaders = increased membership in BSA = job creation! Turley must be a one percenter!
     
    I just don’t understand why no one sent Chucky that memo about one percenter = job creator = good.
     
    Now crossing the beams? That’s bad.

  14. 14
    conway

    Chuck’s real name is Carlos. Check his papers!

  15. 15
    M can help you with that.

    The dogmatic heterosexual-supremacist orientation of the BSA is just one of a whole raft of issues with that particular organization. It can vary from troop to troop, but for the most part…they’re avowedly anti-atheist (and anti-anyone-else-who-isn’t-monotheist-enough), authoritarian, and anti-feminist, and tend to be more than a bit militarist. In some circles there’s a really depressing level of tolerance for blatant racism and fascism.

  16. 16
    podkayne

    BSA always seemed sorta creepy to me. Scouts Australia, much more healthy. Had girls in it since the 80s, for a start.

  17. 17
    meg

    hmm, on a random thought, checked Chuck’s facebook page – 300,000 fans.

    In contrast, George Takei – who has recently joined the campaign to allow gay leaders in the BSA – 2.1 million.

    Well, at least we know who’s reaching more people.

  18. 18
    plutosdad

    What I learned in boy scouts was how to be a victim of bullying for being different.

  19. 19
    Modusoperandi

    scienceavenger “The boy scouts are already gay, just look at the scarves. NEXT!”
    It’s “kerchief”. Kerchief!*

    plutosdad “What I learned in boy scouts was how to be a victim of bullying for being different.”
    They gave you the most precious gift of all, emotional baggage!

    * Gesundheit.

  20. 20
    eoraptor013

    Brain Hertz @8
    Of course the Russians are in on it! Don’t you think there’d be dancing in the Kremlin if the US became a know-nothing 8th century theocratic state? It would mean the end of American hegemony — although we do have a lot of nukes…

  21. 21
    dogmeat

    Is it a coincidence that Turley came out swinging against the BSA’s century-old policy to ban gays from leadership and that he has such close affiliations with the pro-gay Obama administration?

    Wait a second, I’m fairly certain that the anti-gay/anti-atheist stuff didn’t pop up until the 80s when BSA became a Christo-fascist organization.

  22. 22
    dingojack

    podkayne – not in my neck of the woods, it was a heady mix of testosterone and repressed sexuality (a lot of it same sex).

    plutosdad – Snap! Can we get a badge for that I wonder?
    (Although, at least here, they’re really on top of dealing with those kind of issues nowadays).

    Dingo

  23. 23
    Rip Steakface

    I really liked the Scouts while I was in it. However, eventually I decided to prioritize school over militaristic, jingoistic, homophobic and anti-religious freedom organizations like the BSA. I initially left because of a combination of realizing just how serious I was about being an atheist (I was not raised religious and said I didn’t believe in gods from first grade, but didn’t really get it until about middle school) and because of school.

    Now I have reason to stay far away for their anti-atheist, anti-gay, and Bandit Keith-esque jingoism (in America!).

  24. 24
    timgueguen

    The Putin reference is probably a dog whistle for older readers. “Putin’s a Ruskie! Communism! Obama’s a closet Communist!”

  25. 25
    podkayne

    @Dingojack- Sorry to hear that. Scouts for me, (Australian Scouts) was a very positive experience. Venturers especially.
    FYI, I’m female, and went from Brownies into Scouts in 1988.

  26. 26
    dingojack

    podkayne – clearly the difference of experience can be put down to many factors, but I think the major difference is time.
    You are clearly a lot younger than I am.
    By the time I left, the Scouting movement realised (at least in Australia, and perhaps in other places) that this culture was damaging their brand (so to speak) and so they began to address these issues before they became a serious problem for the organisation.
    Another factor that reduced these problems was incorporating females into the scouting movement which diffused the ‘blokey’ culture and opened up a much more tolerant, inclusive and diverse organisational culture within the movement (I believe).
    In short, unlike other organisations, the Scouting Movement addressed the problems early and increased the diversity of their base. It is these changes that has helped them survive into the 21st century.
    Dingo

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