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Lipkin’s Giant Obama Conspiracy Theory

Right Wing Watch may have discovered the mother of all right wing conspiracy theories. It wraps up Obama being a secret Muslim and member of the Muslim Brotherhood with another wingnut bugaboo, the UN’s Agenda 21. All it’s missing is some blather about chemtrails, HAARP and Freemasonry. It’s from Avi Lipkin, who claims he gets his information from his wife, who is allegedly an Israeli intelligence operative. Prepare yourself for some weapons-grade crazy:

Lipkin: Obama was made a Muslim man in Indonesia by age 11. He said, ‘I’ve got health care problems, I got economic problems in America, Muslims in Egypt and Muslims in the Muslim world, be patient, I will show you when the time comes what I am going to do to Israel.’ My wife picked up other broadcasts, for example the Saudis were saying, ‘we will have a Muslim in the White House in 2008.’ The Saudis also said, ‘Obama has three tasks: task number 1 is to destroy the Shiite threat in Iran, task number 2 is to destroy the Jewish threat Israel, task number 3 is to destroy the great Christian Satan America and turn America into a Muslim country.’ …

Lipkin: The Muslim Brotherhood is going to end up either killing, converting to Islam or expelling the remaining Christians of Egypt. When the Christians of Egypt are gone, the economy of Egypt is gone. When the economy of Egypt is gone, the 76 Muslims who remain are going to starve to death. What do people do when they starve? They leave. Where do they go to? America. Who’s going to bring them in? Obama. Where is he going to settle them? In the lands confiscated by Agenda 21…

Lipkin: America will be Muslim by 2016. 2016 is the eighth year of President Obama, meaning he is going to bring in 50-100 million Muslims because it is inevitable that all these Islamic countries cannot rule, they don’t know how to rule themselves, they are completely inept, and after they kill all the Christians that remain there will not be any economy left so you’re going to have overnight 50-100 million Muslims coming in. You cannot put them in American cities, you have got to create entire new areas populated in the United States and Canada with these Muslims.

Eliason: Where Sharia law holds forth?

Lipkin: Yes! So you have Agenda 21, you have Sharia law, by the way I’m going to throw out a real wildcard now. You have all those people who talk about the American debt being insolvable, where are you going to get $14 trillion from? The answer is very simple, you don’t think the Saudis have $14 trillion in cash? They’ll give you the cash and they will say ‘we own you now, we’re going to take over America.’ And Americans will say, ‘if we don’t do this we’re going to lose our economy and we’re going to lose our dollar and everything.’ The American economic problem is not a problem if the Saudis come in and bring in their cash. The problem here is America will surrender its Christianity…

Lipkin: If and when a war breaks out in the Middle East between Israel and its neighbors then you will see 10, 20, 30 million, maybe more, 40, 50 million Muslims, some of them are going to rise up in a 9/11 type terrorist attacks and they are not afraid to die, they cherish death, and American law enforcement with all the best of intentions will not be capable of dealing with this. They are not going to kill 10 million, they are going to kill some and a lot of Jews and Christians are going to go into hiding and eventually a lot of them will eventually leave the United States and coming to Israel so I see this as a spatula, they leave by God, you have the hunters and these hunters are going to be the Muslims. I believe America will come out of this mess but it’s going to be a very rough time, weeks, months, before the situation is brought under control. The more Muslims you have in America the more capable they will be to wreak havoc on Jews and Christians.

Yes, Obama is going to move 76 million Muslims to America by 2016. That’s about 56,000 of them a day, every day, for the next 3.5 years. That’s gonna take a lot of airplanes full of people. This is gonna take some serious organization.

Comments

  1. says

    That’s gonna take a lot of airplanes full of people.

    You think too small. It’ll be like those tunnels across the Mexican border, but TRANS-ATLANTIC! You’ll see!

  2. upprunitegundanna says

    This must be evidence of a schizophrenic disorder: the clearly confabulated stories about his wife; the luridly essentialist view of humans and countries (“Obama was made a Muslim”, “America will be Muslim”); the apocalyptic predictions of how things are going to turn out. This seems not so much to be a hate-filled man, but rather a man with a tragically disordered mind.

  3. says

    Oh! This is the stuff I head when I was moving to Austin. Yeah I don’t use the radio outside of Austin much…

  4. justsomeguy says

    OBVIOUSLY those 76-or-however-many Muslims will be brought here via high-speed, clean-energy-using rail.

  5. says

    76 Muslims!??! We don’t have that kind of room in the U.S.!!

    …OMG, Obama is going to execute nearly 80 Americans to make room!

  6. says

    It amuses me how he seems to be using “made a Muslim man” in the same way we talk about Mafiosi being “made”. They really have just taken the old Red Scare rhetoric and copypasted “Muslim” in place.

  7. jimmiraybob says

    It’s obvious that Obama has perfected the mega Death Ray, just ask Andrew Breitbart. Oops, you can’t. He was taken out by the Obama mega Death Ray. Obviously just a test run until he turns it on all Christians and conservatives.

    Given these facts, who’s to say that Obama hasn’t invented a Muslim mass-transporter ray too? Now, think on that for a few minutes.

  8. says

    There’s some confusion here about figures – here’s what I can tell:

    – When the Christians in Egypt get kicked out by the Muslim Brotherhood, there will be 76 Muslims left, all of which will starve because the Egyptian economy will tank when all of the Christians are gone. (Yes, this is nonsensical, but this seems to be what Lipkin is saying.)
    – Obama is planning on moving in 50-100 million Muslims (allegedly “overnight,” so not in a gradual influx as has been suggested).

    It’s all absurd nonetheless, but these seem to be the claims that Lipkin is making.

  9. jaranath says

    “When the Christians of Egypt are gone, the economy of Egypt is gone.”

    Okay, WTF is this? He repeats it later…he clearly thinks this is linked. Is this a new wingnut meme I haven’t heard before? What’s the argument? Only Christians know how to exchange goods and services for money?

  10. Marie the Bookwyrm says

    Lipkin: Obama was made a Muslim man in Indonesia by age 11. He said, ‘I’ve got health care problems, I got economic problems in America, Muslims in Egypt and Muslims in the Muslim world, be patient, I will show you when the time comes what I am going to do to Israel.’

    Obama said that when he was 11?!? I have to admit I’m impressed; when I was 11 my ambitions were restricted to high school.

    Also, what did Lipkin say about a ‘spatula’? Isn’t that a cooking tool?

  11. d cwilson says

    because it is inevitable that all these Islamic countries cannot rule, they don’t know how to rule themselves, they are completely inept,

    This is what I love about conspiracy theories. There’s absolutely no requirement for internal consistency. We’re supposed believe that they are so inept they can’t govern themselves, yet they are capable organizing and executing the largest mass-scale invasion in world history.

  12. says

    jaranath:

    I’m not sure if I’ve heard it stated quite so blatantly, but that’s the fundamental conceit behind right-wing opposition to the Arab Spring — they do not believe that non-white non-Christians can govern themselves effectively (Japan and India probably make their heads spin when they think about them). It also goes a long way towards explaining the concern trolling over Libya and the general support for dictators in places with significant proportions of brown people.

    It’s also the particular ass out of which Dinesh D’Souza pulled his babble about Obama being “anti-colonial” — to D’Souza (who thinks he’s a white guy), colonialism is good because White Man’s Burden.

  13. michaelcrichton says

    That’s gonna take a lot of airplanes full of people. This is gonna take some serious organization.

    Nah, they’ll just hijack the planes spontaneously. Or something.

  14. Trebuchet says

    Dang, now you made me go look up “Agenda 21″. My brain hurts.

    I couldn’t help noticing that without Christians running things, Muslim countries will have no economy. But the Saudis have $14T in cash!

  15. says

    BrianX “I’m not sure if I’ve heard it stated quite so blatantly, but that’s the fundamental conceit behind right-wing opposition to the Arab Spring — they do not believe that non-white non-Christians can govern themselves effectively”
    Lies! It’s because Christians sell (and buy) things for the price on the sticker. Without them around, the Muslins, expecting everything to be a bargain, will spend all their time and energy haggling. Ergo, total economic collapse!

  16. fishorcutbait says

    by the way I’m going to throw out a real wildcard now.

    Now that was funny. I don’t care who you are. Right there is some pure comedic genius. You get this guy an 8-ball, some pseudoephedrine and a case of Red Bull and you’ve got a comedy marathon in your very own home.

  17. Dennis N says

    This is what I love about conspiracy theories. There’s absolutely no requirement for internal consistency. We’re supposed believe that they are so inept they can’t govern themselves, yet they are capable organizing and executing the largest mass-scale invasion in world history.

    Hmm, I don’t know. The Republican party is terrible at governance but seems to be very good at gaining and maintaining power.

  18. Larry says

    Lipkin must be smoking some weapons-grade hash to come up with shit like that. I wonder where he gets it.

    An 11-year old Obama talking about health care and economics problems. Genius!

  19. abear says

    “This is going to take some serious organization”
    Remember, community organizer is Obama’s strongest point!

  20. slc1 says

    If looney Lipkin’s wife is a Mossad agent, the State of Israel is in a lot of trouble.

  21. chuckonpiggott says

    to Marie the bookwyrm.
    If you think a spatula is just a cooking tool you should go read Jesus’ General.

  22. StevoR says

    Lipkin: The Muslim Brotherhood is going to end up either killing, converting to Islam or expelling the remaining Christians of Egypt.

    Well that part is sadly all too plausible.

    Lipkin: Obama was made a Muslim man in Indonesia by age 11.

    Man at 11? I dunno ’bout that even in Muslim lands a boy is still a kid for a bit longer than that surely? Otherwise, pretty much the truth at least for a while. Obama was raised as a kid in Muslim Indonesia by a Muslim family – or at least a family where the father was Muslim.

    Now as I understand it, it seems that for quite a while Obama was a Muslim or identified publicly as one until he somewhere along the line he joined Jeemiah Wright’s hateful atypical “christian” church.

    I’d also guess that Obama also probably became an athiest or at least non-believer at some point because he’s intelligent enough to work things out and also to keep his real beliefs private whilst utilising religion for politics and being friends with religious allies and supporters.

    So maybe Obama will officially come out in 2013 post-election as an athiest or agnostic, I’m pretty sure he isn’t any longer a Muslim although I wish he’d demonstrate that more clearly by speaking out a bit more aggressively against Islam.

    Lipkin: If and when a war breaks out in the Middle East between Israel and its neighbors

    Ahem, In actual fact the war in this region has never stopped. De facto if not de jure.

    The Islamists have never accepted Israel’s existence or stopped trying to exetrminate it. Soemtiems tehwar has been official and sometemes its been through terrorism and rioting and economic boycotts and so on but basically the war broke out in 1948 and has never stopped since.

    The rest of Lipkin’s stuff there though? Yeah, not at all plausible, likely or supported by reality.

  23. StevoR says

    Now as I understand it, it seems that for quite a while Obama was a Muslim or identified publicly as one until he somewhere along the line he joined Jeemiah Wright’s hateful atypical “christian” church. I’d also guess that Obama also probably became an athiest or at least non-believer at some point because he’s intelligent enough to work things out and also to keep his real beliefs private whilst utilising religion for politics and being friends with religious allies and supporters.

    Which, come to think of it, would make Obama an apostate who has rejected Islam and thus be deserving of a brutal beheading execution under Sharia law! Or would they just stone him to death or execute him another way?

    That’s unless he really is just lying and secretly still believes in Islam or will pretend to to Muslims to survive.

    If I were Obama and I really wasn’t Muslim I’d certainly be more worried about this than he seems to be – and I certainly wouldn’t support any Muslim demographic invasion and be more outspokenly opposed to Muslims than Obama seems to be.

    Wish Obama would take a harder line against them.

  24. StevoR says

    @17.Trebuchet :

    I couldn’t help noticing that without Christians running things, Muslim countries will have no economy. But the Saudis have $14T in cash!

    To state the obvious the Saudis also have oil.

    Without oil, Saudi Arabia would just be another dirt-poor desert and its peopel would weild virtuallyno influence on theworld – they’d be today what, say the African nations Chad, Upper Volta and Zimbabwe are.

    If only the oil had been located elsewhere. Out of the hands of the Sharia law barbarians. Sigh.

    Egypt has no major oil supplies or major natural resources far as I know. Think its best economic assets are the pyramids and ruins from its ancient pre-Muslim, pre-Arab past – but political unrest and terrorism would be /is smashing even that.

  25. dan4 says

    @27: It’s “atypical” for a church to be hateful? LOL! The Bible itself is breathtakingly hateful.

    @28: On a more trivial note, don’t you think it’s a little odd to “respond” to your own commentary, especially when such “responses” involve repetition of typos (“Jeemiah”), lol.

  26. StevoR says

    @30. dan4 :

    @28: On a more trivial note, don’t you think it’s a little odd to “respond” to your own commentary, especially when such “responses” involve repetition of typos (“Jeemiah”), lol.

    Actually one of the two main reasons I do this is to correct typos like that. I know, my typing sucks.

    I don’t always bother when the meaning is clear but sometimes to clarify I will fix typos, missing words and spaces, etc, so I can hopefully be understood better.

    The other is because I think of something else that I want to say that’s relevant to the thread and I think adds something worth adding.

    And, nope, I don’t think its odd.

    It’s “atypical” for a church to be hateful? LOL! The Bible itself is breathtakingly hateful.

    Well, yeah, I guess in some places it is, sure.

    But then there’s hateful and there’s *hateful* and Jeremiah Wright’s racist sermons dial that all the way up to *H-A-T-E-F-U-L*!

    IOW, its a matter of degrees and a continuum / spectrum whwne it comes to religious hatefulness. There’s some pretty meek and mild “liberal” churches, then there’s the Catholic and Mormon mainstream for example which are much more hateful and then at the far end there’s the Westboro cult and Wright’s mob. Beyond which there’s only Islam, variety Jihadist.

  27. dingojack says

    Stevo – Wright H-A-T-E-F-U-L church*? –
    Citations required.
    Dingo
    —–
    * I noticed you spelled it out, was that to make sure you spelled it correctly, or so as not to upset the children? ;)

  28. dan4 says

    @31: Please give an example of a “racist” sermon by Wright. I’ve heard several sources indicate that there are Caucasian, as well as African-American, members of his church.

  29. Aliasalpha says

    I’m so disappointed, I opened this article expecting to read about how obama is really 10 metres tall and has teams of invisible people carrying around a series of huge convex lenses so we’d all see him as a regular sized person

  30. KG says

    Egypt has no major oil supplies or major natural resources far as I know. – SteveoR

    As usual, you don’t know very far. Get a map of the Middle East; it need not be very large-scale. You will see a large river running through Egypt, from north to south. It’s called the Nile; every year, it brings down large quantities of silt, producing some of the most fertile land in the world. You will also see a blue line connecting the Mediterranean to the Red Sea. That’s called the Suez canal. It carries about 7.5% of world sea trade.

    If looney Lipkin’s wife is a Mossad agent, the State of Israel is in a lot of trouble. – slc1

    Nothing Lipkin says is any nuttier than proposing nuclear genocide against the people of Iran.

  31. Michael Heath says

    KG writes:

    Nothing Lipkin says is any nuttier than [SLC1] proposing nuclear genocide against the people of Iran.

    SLC1 responds:

    Contrary to the blogs resident Limey, Mr. KG, there is nothing at all nutty about stopping Iran’s nuclear weapons program. Here’s a link to a report by Reuters, not known as a Zionist sockpuppet, about Iran’s uranium enrichment progress.

    Promoting the nuclear holocaust of Iranians as you do SLC1 is not equivalent to supporting or remaining neutral in regards to Iran becoming capable of causing a nuclear holocaust. That’s a false restriction of alternative fallacy. Your continual dependence on logical and rhetorical fallacies to defend your distinguishing positions continues to remain both uncompelling and descriptive of your character. It’s also sadly ironic that you propose nuclear holocaust on some people in order to stop them from the having the potential to cause a nuclear holocaust.

  32. slc1 says

    Re Michael Heath @ #38

    It is inevitable that one must break some egg shells in order to prepare an omelet.

  33. slc1 says

    Re Michael Heath @ #38

    IMHO, the only way to stop Iran’s progress towards nuclear weapons is to hit them very hard. Perhaps there is a strategy less violent then my half dozen 15 megaton bomb proposal that will do the job. Unfortunately, the less violent proposals, according to experts in the field would only set back Iran’s program for, at most, a year or two. My proposal has the virtue that it will stop it cold, permanently.

  34. dingojack says

    SLC – first, using an awl carefully pierce both ends of the egg. Then, while holding the egg over a bowl, blow into one of the holes whilst pointing the other into the bowl. Use the contents of the egg to make your omelette as you normally would. No broken egg shells.
    Next.
    Dingo
    —–
    Well, what do you expect when you use a ridiculous aphorism instead of an argument?

  35. slc1 says

    Re dingojack @ #41

    The only problem with with Mr. dingo’s proposal is the yolk will be broken. Some people don’t like the yolk broken.

  36. dontpanic says

    I suspect that SLC1 is making something other than an omelet if he’s making it with unbroken yolks.

  37. dingojack says

    You think that making omelettes is possible without breaking the yolk? You truly are a ‘master chef’’*
    Dingo
    —–
    * no, that is not, in anyway a complement

  38. caseloweraz says

    “It’s from Avi Lipkin, who claims he gets his information from his wife, who is allegedly an Israeli intelligence operative.”

    He outed his wife as a Mossad agent? What a guy!

  39. Ichthyic says

    Actually one of the two main reasons I do this is to correct typos like that. I know, my typing sucks.

    trust me, it’s not just your typing that sucks.

  40. some bastard on the net says

    @ slc1

    My proposal has the virtue that it will stop it cold, permanently.

    Your proposal for preventing a nuclear attack is to attack… with nukes.

    *headdesk*
    *headdesk*
    *headdesk*

  41. 'Tis Himself says

    My proposal has the virtue that it will stop it cold, permanently.

    Preemptive retribution, one of the most cherished tools of the schoolyard bully.

  42. says

    Oh, I see murder-advocates slc1 and StevoR are at it again. This is the thing I most dislike about the atheist community: the infestation (and tolerance) of wingnuts who hate and fear Islam and Muslims so much that they are willing to advocate violence and write off human lives.

  43. says

    IMHO, the only way to stop Iran’s progress towards nuclear weapons is to hit them very hard. Perhaps there is a strategy less violent then my half dozen 15 megaton bomb proposal that will do the job. Unfortunately, the less violent proposals, according to experts in the field would only set back Iran’s program for, at most, a year or two. My proposal has the virtue that it will stop it cold, permanently.

    Fuck you. Sincerely.

    You would sacrifice hundreds of thousands of human lives on the altar of your paranoia. Apparently Iranian lives are worth less to you than American lives, so you’ve outed yourself as a racist as well as a genocidal maniac.

  44. coryat says

    @ JimmyRayBob #8:

    Didn’t Obama make the Mythbusters re-examine the Archimedean death ray? Did the MythBusters assassinate Breitbart?

    I think I’m just going to go ahead and call S1C1 Ozymandias from now on.

  45. slc1 says

    Re Walton @ #50

    You would sacrifice hundreds of thousands of human lives on the altar of your paranoia. Apparently Iranian lives are worth less to you than American lives, so you’ve outed yourself as a racist as well as a genocidal maniac.

    If it’s them or us, I greatly prefer that it be them.

  46. Snoof says

    If it’s them or us, I greatly prefer that it be them.

    Why do you assume it’s a dichotomy?

  47. slc1 says

    Re Snoof @ #53

    Allowing the mad mullahs who run Iran to develop nuclear weapons is the equivalent to handing a can a gasoline and a box of matches to a pyromaniac.

  48. coryat says

    Ozymandias #54

    No, its the equivalent of going round to the house of a suspected pyromaniac and burning it down one night with his wife and children inside. For the greater good, you know?

  49. coryat says

    I should have stated that it was your plan of pre-emptive action that I was referring to in my post number #55

  50. dingojack says

    Assumng the Mullahs are mad, assuming that they are tryng to accquire nuclear weapons, assuming, assuming, assuming.
    Dingo

  51. slc1 says

    Re dingojack @ #57

    Yes, just like it was assumed by many of the “China hands” that Mao Zedong was just an agrarian reformer.

  52. some bastard on the net says

    slc1 #58

    Yes, just like it was assumed by many of the “China hands” that Mao Zedong was just an agrarian reformer.

    More reason to, you know, not make assumptions.

    The mentality of “shoot first, ask questions later” will only serve to make more people hate the U.S. (Iraq, anyone?)

    Try again when you’re less stupid.

  53. dan4 says

    SLC-Why do you believe that the ONLY way to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons is to literally destroy the entire country?

  54. slc1 says

    Re dan4 @ #60

    Because most of the commentary I have read on the issue indicate that a conventional attack with smart munitions will only set back the program a few years at most (see for instance commentary by former Mossad chief Meir Dagan). Thus, we would only be kicking the can down the road for 2nd term Obama or 1st term Romney to deal with. If we are going to go down this road, IMHO, we have to do it right and end the treat permanently.

    Incidentally, in this regard, there is an article in today’s Washington Post indicating that elements in Iran which may or may not be tied to government officials have been hatching plots to carry out attacks on the US Embassy in Azerbaijan, in addition to attacks on the diplomats of other foreign countries. IMHO, a bombing campaign with smart munitions, which would delay their nuclear program a few years at most would accelerate these plots.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-officials-among-the-targets-of-iran-linked-assassination-plots/2012/05/27/gJQAHlAOvU_story.html

  55. says

    Exactly. Instead of just murdering them a little, “kicking the can down the road”, we should murder them a lot. Right now.
    Incidentally, I believe I’ve pointed out that them (and, indeed, any nation under the possible explodiated of SLC’s amped up Bush Doctrine, which is all of them) knowing this is a perfectly rational reason to pursue the Bomb. Right now.

  56. some bastard on the net says

    @ slc1 #61

    If we are going to go down this road, IMHO

    Humble, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

    we have to do it right and end the threat permanently.

    Destroying Iran will indeed prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, because Iran will no longer exist.

    Did you know that the world is a shitload larger than the U.S. and Iran?

    Your preemptive tactics would slaughter hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of civilians. This will only serve to foster more hatred for us from the rest of the world.

    More hatred for the U.S. means more terror plots against the U.S.

    Following your, uh, “tactics” will mean nuking more countries.

    Nuking more countries will kill more civilians.

    More civilians killed means more hatred for the U.S.

    More hatred for the U.S. means more terror plots against the U.S.

    Continue ad nauseum…

    Your genocidal proposal is not a solution, it will only prolong the death and destruction until there’s nothing left to blow up.

  57. slc1 says

    Re Modusoperandi @ #62

    That’s where Dubya make his big mistake. Instead of invading Afghanistan and Iraq, he should have loaded up a B52 with four 15 megaton bombs, dropping the first one on Tripoli which would take care of Qaddafi, the second on Baghdad which would take care of Saddam, the third on Tehran which would take care of the Ayatollahs, and the fourth on Kabul which would take care of the Taliban. No need for sending in US troops.

  58. dingojack says

    Incidentally, in this regard, there is an article in today’s Washington Post indicating that elements in Iran which may or may not be tied to government officials have been hatching plots to carry out attacks on the US Embassy in Azerbaijan.”

    Oh well by all means start bombing! I mean The Washtingon Post thinks there might be a plot that may or maynot be attached to a government.
    Psst I heard a guy on the internet, who may or maynot be attached to the US government, plotting to nuke Iran… We start bombing in five minutes.
    @@

    as discussed before:
    a) B52’s don’t have the capability to load 15Mt nuclear weapons*
    b) are extremely vunerable to SAM attack (at the least)
    c) don’t have the range to easily fly over Iran
    d) The US doesn’t have any 15Mt nuclear weapons
    e) the phyisical fallout would make such an attack counter-productive
    f) the diplomatic fallout ” ” ” ” ” ”
    g) the long-term effects on the planet (droughts/nuclear winter effects) ” ” ” ” ” ”

    If you’re trying for genocidial, you’re going to have to do better than that.

    Dingo
    —–
    *only kiloton bombs (and good luck trying to source a few thousand 50 year old nuclear-tipped missiles)

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