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I don’t know what’s up with the fundamentalist Christian ministers in North Carolina, but they seem to be a particularly violent bunch. Two of them have come out in favor of beating kids who show the slightest sign of being gay, but what happens if that doesn’t work and they grow up to be gay? Well then, of course, you have to kill them.

The pastor, identified on YouTube as Charles L. Worley of Providence Road Baptist Church in Maiden, N.C., condemns President Obama’s much-publicized endorsement of same-sex marriage while calling for gays and lesbians to be put in an electrified pen and ultimately killed off.

“Build a great, big, large fence — 150 or 100 mile long — put all the lesbians in there,” Worley suggests in the clip, reportedly filmed on May 13.

He continues: “Do the same thing for the queers and the homosexuals and have that fence electrified so they can’t get out…and you know what, in a few years, they’ll die out…do you know why? They can’t reproduce!”

He also said that if he’s asked who he’ll vote for, he’ll reply, “I’m not going to vote for a baby killer and a homosexual lover!” Many of the congregants cheer and reply, “Amen.”

Worley added, “It makes me pukin’ sick to think about — I don’t even whether or not to say this in the pulpit — can you imagine kissing some man?”

Here’s the video:

Comments

  1. fastlane says

    So glad these things are coming out on youtube for all the world to see.

    So, are we still to believe that sophisticated theology is the Real Deal (TM), or can we dispense with that crap and admit that religion in the mainstream is the disease that it is?

  2. gopiballava says

    I can’t imagine a woman wanting to marry you, after learning how disgusting your views are.

    Is this sufficient grounds for prohibiting your marriage?

  3. anubisprime says

    # OP

    can you imagine kissing some man?”

    Without Judas there would be no Christianity!

    Ahh…yep..thinking things through is not the fundy way…explains why they are an evolutionary dead end!

  4. Chiroptera says

    Worley added, “It makes me pukin’ sick to think about — I don’t even whether or not to say this in the pulpit — can you imagine kissing some man?”

    lol wut?

    I would have thought that about half of his audience could imagine kissing some man. But maybe that’s the half that doesn’t count?

  5. Skip White says

    Am I the only one who imagined a cartoonish redneck drawl while reading what this asshat said?

  6. anandine says

    you imagine kissing some man?

    He got down to the nub of it there. They hate gays because gay sex is yucky (to them; hetero sex is yucky to gays). The answer, of course, is if it’s yucky, they shouldn’t do it.

  7. unbound says

    Can’t you just feel the love and morality going on in that video? Got to love them xtians…hours of entertainment as they display their hatred of the world around them.

  8. The Lorax says

    Hey, give the guy a break. I don’t even whether or not to sometimes either.

  9. phrankeaufyl says

    can you imagine kissing some man?

    Based on recent history, I’d bet Rev. Worley doesn’t have to imagine.

  10. says

    Heh. Near the end, he says, “I don’t even whether or not to say this in the pulpit — can you imagine kissing some man?” Then he pauses…. and licks his lips and says what sounds like, “My God, I love you fellows.”

  11. eric says

    “Build a great, big, large fence — 150 or 100 mile long — put all the lesbians in there,”

    Great suggestion, but you’re thinking too small. Make the fence 12,000 miles long (approximately). Anyone who doesn’t want to live in the fenced-off area with the lesbians is welcome to leave. We can call it, oh, I don’t know, how about “United States.”

  12. says

    I wonder if he realises that a man kissing a man isn’t uncommon in certain parts of the world, and usually has nothing to do with being gay. Nah, probably not. He probably has never ventured much further abroad than his own cramped little imagination.

  13. Doug Little says

    can you imagine kissing some man?

    Well he’s obviously thinking about it otherwise he wouldn’t have bought it up.

  14. Captain Mike says

    … in a few years, they’ll die out…do you know why? They can’t reproduce!”

    I would bet five dollars that if you crammed every single gay man and woman in the U.S. into a fenced off area, you would have quite a few babies born by the end of the year. Ignoring the fact that gay people have been known to have relations with the opposite sex, sometimes people have sex just to get the babies. Strange but true.

  15. movablebooklady says

    Maybe he got his ideas from reading “Coventry” by Robert Heinlein. I’m from NC and he and his like are certainly embarrassing to us.

  16. roggg says

    Something tells me he’s imagined kissing a man before… I could be wrong. Just a feeling.

  17. eric says

    Captain Mike, you are almost certainly right (I wouldn’t take your bet).

    But even if you lost that bet, it wouldn’t matter. There’d be a bunch of gay people born from that generation of straight people – just like most gay people today had straight biological parents, too. This guy seems to be getting his knowledge of genetics and development off the back of a crackerjack box.

  18. geneking says

    Isn’t he admitting that being gay is genetic? How else could they die out if ‘they can’t reproduce..’ as he claims.

    GeneK

  19. d cwilson says

    It’s like wingnuts want Godwin’s Law to apply to real life.

    Maybe we should straight men and women apart. We’re the ones who keep having gay babies!

  20. Trebuchet says

    Isn’t he admitting that being gay is genetic? How else could they die out if ‘they can’t reproduce..’ as he claims.

    I does sound that way but I’m pretty sure if asked he’d tell you it’s not genetic, they spread the gayness by recruiting small children. That the purpose of the gaycentration camps, preventing recruitment.

  21. says

    Does this guy realize that gay people are born from sexually interaction between potentially straight people? His little plan will do nothing to get remove gay people.

  22. Ben P says

    Maybe he got his ideas from reading “Coventry” by Robert Heinlein. I’m from NC and he and his like are certainly embarrassing to us.

    The great Nehemiah Scudder!!!

    One interesting fact to remember is that in that particular universe, Nehemiah Scudder was elected President of the United States in 2012, no elections were held in 2016 or thereafter. (At least until the Cabal overthrew the prophets sometime in the 2100′s and established the government which existed in Coventry

    Of course, Heinlein also imagined humanity would have permanent colonies on Mars and Venus by 2012, so you might take the science fiction with a grain of salt.

  23. anubisprime says

    # 17 @ eric

    This guy seems to be getting his knowledge of genetics and development off the back of a crackerjack box.

    I thought all fundies did?
    Simple words, not to many syllables, maybe a crude but brightly colored piccy to help with a clue or to add gravitas, and text so deep and profound…well it is almost the scientifical version of the ‘wholly babble!’

  24. gvlgeologist says

    Such christian love. Such Christlike behavior and attitudes.

    Does no one in his congregation think, “Man, this guy is incredibly hateful.”?

  25. Synfandel says

    …and you know what, in a few years, they’ll die out…do you know why? They can’t reproduce!

    Whereas, of course, if you didn’t fence them in, they’d all reproduce. He’s clearly thought this through.

    can you imagine kissing some man?

    Well, I’m an unambiguously heterosexual man, but:
    1. I would still far rather kiss a man than put him in a concentration camp (except, perhaps, in the cases of a North Carolina bigot with a pulpit).
    2. It is a source of endless delight to me that about half of us are actually fairly keen on kissing men. When I get home I’ll have to see how my wife feels about the idea.

  26. gregorylynn says

    I don’t know why I am so continually astonished by the stupid things these people believe but he actually believes that gay people are recruited to be gay.

    I find that entire concept mind boggling.

  27. timberwoof says

    Egads, I sure hope he’s not a closet case. Can you imagine having to deal with the kind of smarmy apologies and incessant requests for anonymous sex that would surely happen if he ever came out? Can you imagine kissing that guy? Blecch!

  28. says

    They hate gays because gay sex is yucky (to them; hetero sex is yucky to gays).

    As a hetero guy, I spent some time trying to dissect my reactions to this, after a couple occasions when I was searching straightporn and wound up accidentally accessing gayporn. It made me uncomfortable, so I sat there for a while and tried to figure out “why am I uncomfortable?” Obviously, I can’t possibly claim that other people’s reactions are similar to mine, but perhaps it might explain something. I was talking to a guy last year who made some comments about how squicked out he was by the idea of gaysex and I ran my analysis by him and he said, “oh. that DOES kind of explain everything.” Anecdotes not being evidence, here’s what I realized about myself: I’m hetero, moderately vanilla, slightly dom. So when I look at a picture of 2 guys fucking I get this immediate “no thanks!” reaction. Because I’m not particularly interested in fucking some guy in the ass; the idea doesn’t do much for me. So my attempt to fit myself into one of the roles in the picture is defeated if that role is the guy who’s doing the fucking. That leaves one other role, and that’s the role of the guy who’s getting fucked and I’m much less comfortable with that (as someone who’s unpracticed in that area, I think: “ow?!”) – the feeling that I interpret as “discomfort” at the sight of the gayporn is simply that I can’t fit myself comfortably into either of the roles that I see going on so I come away with generalized feeling of discomfort.

    I then realized that gay blowjob pictures bother me much less and it’s simply because there’s a role I can imagine myself in that doesn’t make me go “ow!” or “no thanks.” And that’s why I have no problem at all with thinking about gayfemale sex (I distinguish that from conventional hetero-male-targeted g/g porn) because there’s a role I can pretty easily see myself and there’s no uncertainty reaction, at all. I floated this by a fetish-newbie that I met, who voiced extreme discomfort with some things she’d encountered, and after thinking about it she agreed that she was uncomfortable with both the roles in what she was seeing (had no interest in whipping someone ’till they were bruised, or being whipped until she was bruised) so it seems a pretty good way of parsing apart our reactions to this stuff. In other words, for me – and some of the other people I’ve run this explanation past – it’s simply a side-effect of being presented with a bunch of alternatives, none of which are familiar and attractive, and interpreting that discomfort as repulsion.

    The important thing remains, “if it bothers you, don’t do it,” which is a correct catch-all response to these things. The question of “why does it bother you?” is more subtle and that’s what I’m interested in. I don’t think a lot of the homophobes who say it bothers them because of god are telling the truth – I think it bothers them either because they think about it and find themselves falling toward the role that they don’t really want to be in (Pope Ratzinger, are you reading me?) or that they can’t find any place for themself in the picture and that makes them uncomfortable. Understanding this dynamic may go a ways towards helping people push through it.

  29. D. C. Sessions says

    It makes me pukin’ sick to think about — I don’t even whether or not to say this in the pulpit — can you imagine kissing some man?

    But he can’t stop thinking about it anyway. And “kissing” is just a euphemism for what he really thinks about.

  30. Who Knows? says

    I wonder if it would be effective to round a group of people up and isolate them from the rest of society? Has anyone tried it in recent history?

    Personally, I think it would only be an interim solution and we would have to find some solution to finally resolve the homosexual question, once and for all.

  31. marcus says

    “— can you imagine kissing some man?” Been there, done that. Thought I would check it out. Not bad but not really my thing. Nothing to get all (Godwin coming) Nazi about.
    Equality, how the fuck do it work?

  32. Michael Heath says

    I was slightly surprised when conservatives decided to go after Barack Obama in 2008 with some of his then-pastor Jeremiah Wright’s damning rhetoric. That was because I repeatedly heard far worse from nearly every single evangelical/fundamentalist pastor whose sermon I suffered through in my youth.

    Mr. Wright at least had an argument no different than what the CIA was reporting were the root causes, albeit more passionately and insulting than the CIA’s reports.

  33. Ichthyic says

    it’s simply a side-effect of being presented with a bunch of alternatives, none of which are familiar and attractive, and interpreting that discomfort as repulsion.

    in simplest terms, I think you have hit on a good part of where the gut-reaction comes from.

    but remember, instincts are modified by experience.

    things that are unfamiliar indeed are often unattractive.

    I can recall not liking beer or spinach when I was a youngster.

    I’ll let your mind wander from there.

  34. says

    I think what this deluded man was trying to say is that gays don’t reproduce, they recruit, so, if you lock them all away, with the men separated from the women so they won’t have babies and then recruit them, there will be no more LGBT people. Even if it were true that LGBT people do recruit (nobody had to recruit me), the only people that would be sent away to the camps would be self-identified gays or those who had their sexual orientation exposed. This would leave millions of LGBT out of the camps. Who would identify as gay after the camps were set up? Whatever his thinking was he is an evil, loathsome poor excuse for a human.
    Years ago, when I was a faithful Episcopalian, I was asked to lead a three-month discussion of sexuality. The final result was an extremely supportive statement. But during one of the discussions the hottest man in the group said he didn’t like gay sex because he thought anal sex would be incredibly painful. I thought this would be a wonderful opportunity for hands-on education, but my pastor disagreed.

  35. Ichthyic says

    …I forgot to add, that avoiding the unfamiliar is not the only thing going on in negative reactions though. We are constantly bombarded with imagery and messages about what is considered “appropriate” behavior in any given society.

    When that society has generations of patriarchal influence and privilege, and religious influence and privilege of specific types, that ALSO tends to influence our behavioral reactions to other behavior, familiar or not.

    hence, you will find, unfortunately, many people who lean naturally towards same-sex partnerships, but who feel the need to constantly repudiate and reject the behavior associated with same.

    I think Marcus is right to examine where these attitudes come from, but it’s also important for us to examine the messages we are constantly exposed to, and the effect those have on us as well.

    This, in the main, is why I have always agreed with Dawkins and Hitchens that religion simply must go. The messages are too easy to manipulate, too potentially destructive to the productive functioning of modern society.

  36. Ichthyic says

    I think what this deluded man was trying to say

    why bother torturing yourself to figure it out?

    call him what he is: a demented fuckwit

    …and move on.

    It’s not like “correctly” interpreting his master plan will actually accomplish anything.

    No more than figuring out the plot line to an episode of “Pinky and the Brain” would somehow actually contribute to saving the earth from the dominion of two mice.

  37. Ichthyic says

    That leaves one other role, and that’s the role of the guy who’s getting fucked and I’m much less comfortable with that (as someone who’s unpracticed in that area, I think: “ow?!”

    hmm.

    why consider this “ow” and not male/female intercourse?

  38. kermit. says

    gvlgeologist: Does no one in his congregation think, “Man, this guy is incredibly hateful.”?

    Yes, several of the 12 to 18 years olds. Once they graduate from high school, they’ll be gone, never to be seen again. Possibly at family gatherings, depending on the family, but not in that church.

    Some of them will be gay, some will have gay friends, some will simply be appalled by his hatefulness. And an Asperger’s or two will be bewildered and annoyed by his incredible stupidity.

  39. Ben P says

    hmm.

    why consider this “ow” and not male/female intercourse?

    I think that’s overthinking the issue.

    While not purely genetic (there’s certainly a genetic component, but large parts are developmental as well) sexuality is very very deeply ingrained.

    Finding a particular woman sexually attractive or a particular image sexually arousing is not something that occurs as a result of a logical process, it arises out of a much more unconscious process that borders on the level of a biological reaction. I don’t think there’s any reason why being uncomfortable with sexual behavior that’s not “natural” to you would operate on a different level.

    I put scare quotes around natural because I’m deliberately not trying to impute any positive or negative connotation. I used it in the sense that might be synonymous with “instinctive.” In a crude sense it’s “instinct” that makes you find one sex or the other sexually attractive. That doesn’t mean people’s instincts might trend toward homosexuality as part of some entirely natural developmental process.

    Taking a step back, just because you have that reaction doesn’t mean you act on it. All of civilization is based on the concept that some personal reactions have to be controlled in order for people to live and work together in close proximity.

    You might very well be uncomfortable witnessing same sex sexual interactions, or you might not. Although Kinsey’s study was flawed I suspect he was right that human sexuality isn’t so much binary as it is a continuum, some people are totally straight or gay, many are mostly to one side or another, some only lean one side or the other a little.

    However, I would say that a civilized reaction is evaluating the reaction and deciding that personal emotional reactions aren’t a basis to try to regulate the behaviors of other people that don’t harm you in some way.

  40. says

    why consider this “ow” and not male/female intercourse?

    I had some experience involving my butt that was “ow” and I’ve never experienced being a female. I’m pretty sure that I could wrap my brain around it and probably even eventually like or love it. How much of the fundies’ reaction is simply rejecting the unfamiliar? From one viewpoint, consistently rejecting the unknown is probably a safe strategy and may be one of the definitions of a form of “conservatism” Spinach and beer were also two things I had to eventually come around to, before I discovered their unique charms.

    We are constantly bombarded with imagery and messages about what is considered “appropriate” behavior in any given society.

    That’s true! One of the things that constantly amazes me, when I really think hard about it, is how much of our sexuality is learned. It’s not at all the case that males are born knowing how to have sex with females – I could cite some rather amusing examples, including one involving a flying diaphragm and a retriever dog. … I think of most of what we call “society” as being peer pressure to conform – in virtually every way: in what we eat, how and who we fuck, etc.

    I guess that my point is that it doesn’t take a whole lot of deep thought to figure out why we react to the various sexual cues that we encounter. But very few people really seem to try. :/ I do, because it makes my sex life better: once I understand what my buttons are I can mash them over and over again. :)

    Which brings me to a final point… It has often seemed to me that some people enjoy being offended. If you think about that for a second, it also makes sense – there’s a little shot of adrenaline and a lingering afterglow of self-righteousness. Basically it’s a happy feedback loop that amplifies confirmation bias. OOh! I am offended! Well, obviously I’m in the right – why? Because I’m offended! I believe David Hume said something clever and relevant about how there is no feeling “out there” and that if we feel ‘wronged’ there’s no ‘wronged’ but that it’s all inside ourselves and was created by ourselves. It sort of justifies the classical notpology: “I am sorry you chose to be offended by what I said.” (shorter: “sucks being you.”) that is a truth that appears to be too profound to get through to the self-righteous: if gays offend them it’s because they decided to be offended – after all, they’re offended at the concept of “gays” and not just the reality of any individual gay person. Short form: fucking dumbass christians.

  41. dan4 says

    In another commentary board on this same story, there was a prevalent No True Scotsman Fallacy them, with a lot of “This guy is not a TRUE Christian” responses. Is there any verse(s) in either the Old or/and the New Testament that would actually contradict/take issue with what this lunatic is proposing?

  42. Michael Heath says

    Anderson Cooper had a member of Mr. Worley’s congregation on this evening’s AC360. She did a wonderful job deeply illustrating how many southern conservative Christians think and argue. This sort of revelation is an aspect of conservative Christianity that is greatly under-reported by the media. So I was greatly appreciative of Mr. Cooper doing some actual reporting in spite of how inconvenient it is for those generating revenues marketing to consumers that we have Americans who think like this congregant.

  43. dingojack says

    In New Scientist (24 May p28) there’s a very interesting article about the conservative mindset and marriage equality.
    Apparently conservatives have a much stronger disgust reaction when compared to liberals (generally, YMMV).
    A conservative feels a palpable, overwhelming disgust at the thought of two men kissing, where as liberals would find such things to be only uncomfortable at worst.
    This also helps to explain the Authoritarian fear of dirt, mess and chaos.
    Dingo

  44. Hercules Grytpype-Thynne says

    why consider this “ow” and not male/female intercourse?

    Hemorrhoids.

    YMMV.

  45. dingojack says

    Hey here’s an idea- why not create two giant electrified pens out of the state of North Carolina. Put all the men in one half and all the women in the other, presumably it won’t slow the birth rates down any ’cause straights can breed [by parthenogenesis or sumptn], right Pasta Worley?
    (as long as he uses his special Pastor Gaydar to weed out the wrong ‘uns. He just asks himself which men he’d most like to kiss even though the thought pleasurably disgusts him*).
    Clearly not thought out, at all. @@
    Dingo
    —–
    * Charles L. Worley, FON

  46. bodie425 says

    I’m a man and a Tarheel and I really like kissing another man that I’m attracted to. It’s a wonderful experience that gives me joy. What’s so fucking sad about this is that society in general can watch men murder men on tv all night long, but, let a man kiss another man and suddenly Jebus is marshaling in the clouds and ready to strike earth. You’d think they’d want Jebus to come on back. Just more of their fucking irony.
    As for butt sex, yeah it hurts (proportional to size, of course) at first butt it gets better with time. I’ve noticed in porn that some straight men are using dildos for anal stimulation while having sex with a woman. Prostate stimulation is eye opening to say the least!!!

  47. StevoR says

    Wonder what this pathetic hate-fillled unhappy bigot would like to do with bisexuals?

    Sad to think some people really seriously think like that -or ae they just whipping ‘emselves into an unthinking frenzy without really understanding or meaning what they’re spewing?

  48. reddiaperbaby1942 says

    There’s a marvellous cartoon in the last New Yorker: God is looking down at Earth (showing North and South America, and he says “I hate my fans!”

  49. Akira MacKenzie says

    Why is ANYONE surprised by this? It’s not as if these sort of comments and sentiments are new. I certainly heard them around while hanging out in the College Republican’s office and my university’s conservative (i.e. right-wing frat boy) newspaper back when I considered myself a proud, patriotic, god-fearing, American. To my eternal shame, I probably uttered something along these lines to myself.

    The only thing that is different here in the early 2010s than the early 1990s is that ubiquity of the Internet and digital media. All of the racist, sexist, homophobic, jingoistic, and just plain wrong bullshit that you can stomach–and more– is just a Google search away! One one hand, it smashes the barriers of deniability (“Oh! We’d never say anything like that.”) and allows us and the world to see for ourselves just how vile and cancerous American conservatism really is and why it must be destroyed.

    On the other hand, it also allows the right-wingers to figure out who vote for and/or send money to; a doubled-edged sword, really.

  50. says

    “Wonder what this pathetic hate-fillled unhappy bigot would like to do with bisexuals?”

    The same thing he’d like to do with teh GAY, just not publicly in either case.

    OT. I was out at the lakeshore last evening, trying to find the right angle for getting the sun behind the Oswego lighthouse (I pretty much got it) and while walking along the beach side of Fort Ontario, I encountered a couple who were walking in the opposite direction. We both commented on the glorious sunset and then the gentleman (it was a 100% GODfearin’ hetero couple) said, “I’ve been here at least 10 times and I’ve never seen that before.”. I thought he was talking about the sunset. Nope. He was talking about the 10 FUCKING FOOT HIGH crucifix that was planted in the soil with the “In Hoc Signo Vinces” label on the crosspiece. I looked at it and said, “Well, this is a state/federal park. That’s probably an illegal display. He said nothing, his wife, otoh, said, “Well, I’m GLAD it’s there.”. Her attitude is the one that causes me to despise KKKristians. She is exactly the sort of person who would excuse hateful and hatefilled homophobia as GOD’s work. Fuck KKKristianity.

  51. sunsangnim says

    Wait, he’s a genit? I should be one, too?

    Oh, against it. For a second I wasn’t sure what language I was listening to.

  52. Who Knows? says

    Wait, he’s a genit?

    I hadn’t watched the clip. I mean, who needs to listen to this kind of shit? But I just had to hear him say a genit. Fuck yeah. He said it four times!

  53. says

    People like this still exist, but they are dying out (quite literally). The demographic data shows that the young cohorts are generally much more likely to be ok with gays. Part of me wants the more hateful people like this fellow to live long lives simply so they can see a world that they will utterly detest. I can’t imagine a more fitting punishment.

  54. Childermass says

    Every time they open their mouths the closer they are to defeat. Encourage their lunacy.

    Meanwhile, is it not time to start getting repeals of same-sex-marriage bans to the voters and maybe even give them a chance to vote for equality? There are states which this could be done. Here is a year-old breakdown of polling by state:

    http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/29/the-future-of-same-sex-marriage-ballot-measures/

    Winning at the ballot box is important. It is important for the opposition to know that it is not just a few “liberals” in the courts, Hollywood, etc. It is important to tell them that they are indeed part of a minority and not a majority. And of course, once you can win at the ballot box, you no longer just have to merely hope the courts will support you. And as much as the courts might want to deny it, they are not totally unaffected by the will of people. If a series ballot victories occurs, it might provide a nudge to the courts to see things correctly.

  55. leni says

    Marcus Ranum:

    It made me uncomfortable, so I sat there for a while and tried to figure out “why am I uncomfortable?” Obviously, I can’t possibly claim that other people’s reactions are similar to mine, but perhaps it might explain something.

    I’m a straight cis female and I have this reaction to straight porn lol. I just can’t watch it. It just completely grosses me out. A friend said something to the effect of “Good god you’re a prude! It’s natural what’s not to like!” I told him that shitting was natural too, but that didn’t mean I wanted to watch videos of it ;) Yes, for me it’s like watching people poop.

    For the record, I am not even remotely prudish nor am I grossed out by sex in general. I love it, get it regularly, don’t have hang-ups about it, and am not disgusted by thinking about. I just feel creepy seeing other people doing it, straight or gay. I think for me it’s a privacy/intimacy/respect thing rather than a role filling thing. I just don’t understand why people who get regular sex and/or don’t have unmet kink needs even watch it. It’s like sports. All I can think is “Why? It’s just so ridiculous.”

    Anyway, this is way off topic and I’m over-sharing. I just thought it was interesting and that the role-filling thing wasn’t quite explaining it.

  56. says

    I saw some scare headline on the web, last night, about a NEW poll that sez LESS people are being fooled by teh GAYgendaists than EVER!! I dismissed it as bullshit but then I dismiss most news as bullshit.

  57. Ichthyic says

    As for butt sex, yeah it hurts (proportional to size, of course) at first butt it gets better with time.

    heh, typo?

    I can attest to the straight sex being better with prostate stimulation scenario.

    and that’s all I’ll contribute to this.

    I mean, this is a family forum, right?

    :P

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