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May 21 2012

Gay Republicans Not Happy With Romney

Mitt Romney went to posthumously kiss the ring of Jerry Falwell by speaking at the Liberty University commencement ceremony and did his best imitation of a wingnut he could muster. But even that has him in trouble with GOProud, the gay conservative group:

Liberty University was founded by the late Jerry Falwell, who in 2007 said, “AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharaoh’s charioteers … AIDS is not just God’s punishment for homosexuals; it is God’s punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals.” The university has been at the heart of many recent skirmishes over antigay ideology, and Romney’s speech there comes just days after his his advisers said the presidential candidate would make his disdain for marriage equality a major issue in the campaign.

“The father of the modern conservative movement, former U.S. senator Barry Goldwater, once said of Jerry Falwell that he needed a kick in the ass,” said LaSalvia. “With his speech at Falwell’s Liberty University, it is clear that Governor Romney’s message to Goldwater conservatives is: drop dead. Many on our board and among our grassroots supporters have long had reservations about Governor Romney’s record – particularly when it comes to issues of importance to conservatives. Issues like fundamental tax reform, healthcare reform, and entitlement reform. As an organization that was born amidst the energy and enthusiasm of the early days of the Tea Party movement, many in our organization are concerned about how seriously Governor Romney will take cutting the size and scope of government, about his commitment to federalism and about whether or not he will dramatically cut federal spending.”

Wow, what a load of crap that is. Nothing but a list of meaningless platitudes. No, Romney will not dramatically cut federal spending. What Republican ever has, despite endless promises to do so? Saint Ronald Reagan the Holy (PBUH), who exists only in the right wing imagination, proposed larger budgets than those free-spending Democrats who controlled Congress at the time. So much for the myth of the fiscal conservative, who only seems to exist during campaigns and then vanishes into thin air.

And no, Romney doesn’t have any commitment to federalism. Neither does any other elected official of either party, for that matter. Everyone’s a federalist on issues they think should be handled at the state level and everyone is anti-federalist when they think an issue should be handled at the federal level. Politicians who claim to be in favor of federalism, from either party, are just mouthing empty cliches that they will jettison the moment it is politically convenient for them to do so.

I am so enjoying watching Romney try to navigate between the Scylla and Charybdis of the religious right and sane people.

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  1. 1
    Draken

    I have to ask: if you’re gay, why on earth would you stay with the GOP? It’s not that it stands for Gay Old Party, right?

  2. 2
    jba55

    @1 Or a woman or minority.

    I don’t expect GOProud to fully support or get supported by any R candidate for some time. How long will it be before Republicans support equal rights for homosexuals?

  3. 3
    Chiroptera

    Draken, #1: …if you’re gay, why on earth would you stay with the GOP?

    They probably want to preserve all the privileges they have as white upper middle class men. They don’t want equality or liberty for all, they just want what they feel is their privileged share of the pie.

  4. 4
    Alverant

    @Draken, denial is a powerful thing. And believing you’re one of the elite with special rights helps too.

  5. 5
    MikeMa

    Quite possibly the GOProud folks have, for so long, repressed their sexual preference that they accept that part of their lives as incidental to the more important issues of killing brown people and protecting the wealthy. That does stand in marked contrast to the fact that they touched reality long enough to belong to GOProud at all.

    Does GOProud even have the temerity to contradict the gay=pedophile crap sponsored by so many christian religions hate groups?

  6. 6
    Stevarious, Public Health Problem

    What I found interesting about the Liberty U visit was the protest by the students. The staff at LU bang on and on about how Mormonism is a non-Christian cult inspired by Satan. So who would they invite a Satan-inspired cultist to give the commencement address?

    Hey, kids! The lesson to be learned is this: Abandon your principles the moment it becomes politically expedient to do so. It’s what Falwell would have done!

  7. 7
    Raging Bee

    As an organization that was born amidst the energy and enthusiasm of the early days of the Tea Party movement…

    In this instance, “energy and enthusiasm” can be translated as “faux-populist hysteria and bigotry orchestrated by the rich to obstruct progress and prevent the people from talking sensibly about what’s really wrong with America.” And GOProud are BRAGGING about such disgraceful origins? They just flushed whatever credibility they had down the toilet.

    …many in our organization are concerned about how seriously Governor Romney will take cutting the size and scope of government, about his commitment to federalism and about whether or not he will dramatically cut federal spending.”

    Romney is supporting a party whose #1 agenda item is reinstating all of the worst bigotry that ever stained our history, and these asshats are “concerned” about their fantasy fiscal policy? Are you fucking kidding me?! What a ridiculous gaggle of pearl-clutching morons. They supported a mindless, stupid, hysterical insurgency, and now they’re whining about the candidate that came out of that insurgency? Fuck ‘em.

  8. 8
    Dr X

    Tangentially, as it just so happens, last night we watched the recently released We Were Here, an extraordinary, moving documentary looking at the emergence of the AIDS crisis in San Francisco through the eyes of five heroes who lived through it from the beginning. Some of the stories of decency and courage were incredible.

    One small part of the film dealt with efforts to gin up condemnation of gays. A brief, gag-inducing, 1987 clip of Falwell boasting in 1987 that AIDS was God’s vengeance for the sin of the victims was played. Seen in bold relief, against the powerful backdrop of excruciating suffering and the heroism of those who were in there working hands-on to comfort and aid the sick and dying during this terrifying, demoralizing epidemic, Falwell’s pomposity seems even more crude and obviously evil than any stand alone clip could convey. My wife sneered sarcastically: “that’s how evangelicals love lepers.”

    Interestingly, since the AIDS crisis, right-wing Christians have been increasingly, publicly condemned, while gay people moved from being social lepers to gaining a level of mainstream acceptance that was unimaginable at the beginning of the crisis. The latter actually has much to do with the AIDS crisis itself. So if one were to believe in a God who had a long-term plan…

    I know my comment veered from the Romney angle of the story, but if you haven’t seen it, I urge you to watch this documentary, especially if you weren’t born yet or were two young to fully comprehend the social status of gays and the unfolding of the epidemic, before anyone had any idea what it was. It changed gay people, gay culture and American culture extremely positive ways that might never otherwise happened.

    It’s $2.99 on Amazon Instant at the link above.

  9. 9
    velociraptor

    To paraphrase JC Watts’ (Asshat – OK) father: ” A LGBT voting Republican is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.”

  10. 10
    Uncle Glenny

    @chiroptera

    They probably want to preserve all the privileges they have as white upper middle class men. They don’t want equality or liberty for all, they just want what they feel is their privileged share of the pie.

    QFT

    That was my impression of Log Cabin Repubs a couple decades ago. For that matter, also many women, although the anti-woman stance wasn’t as obvious (to me) as it is now.

  11. 11
    cjtotalbro

    They justify being GOP voters by resorting to platitudes like:

    “I believe in personal accountability”

    “I believe in fiscal conservatism and low spending”

    “I believe in free markets”

    “I believe in individual liberty”

    “I believe in small government”

    Basically a whole bunch of meaningless statements that bear no relation to the modern GOP and if actually followed to their logical conclusion would result in a person being 100% unable to vote for a republican.

  12. 12
    Modusoperandi

    AIDS is not just God’s punishment for homosexuals; it is God’s punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals…

    Yeah! Take that, gay tolerant…Africa?

    “Saint Ronald Reagan the Holy (PBUH), who exists only in the right wing imagination, proposed larger budgets than those free-spending Democrats who controlled Congress at the time.”

    When I brought this up, I was told that Reagan’s budgets were larger than Legislative budgets because he proposed what he thought would pass, not what he wanted. So there! Or something.

  13. 13
    MikeMa

    The title of this post: Gay Republicans Not Happy With Romney should really be just: Gay Republicans Not Happy. How the hell could they be happy? They belong to an organization that strongly condemns them and in which many would advocate for their being in jail. That’s gotta hurt.

  14. 14
    Michael Heath

    The father of the modern conservative movement, former U.S. senator Barry Goldwater, once said of Jerry Falwell that he needed a kick in the ass . . .

    This species of conservative is now extinct. Instead the U.S. suffers from a sub-species of conservatism which is the progeny derived from the sexual union of Jerry Falwell, Grover Norquist, and Ayn Rand’s rotting corpse.

    The Koch brothers paid for the bash while Roger Ailes recorded it, with added video recorded by Ailes of nearly all current Republican members “enjoying” the performance. Mr. Ailes keeps his recordings safely ensconced to maintain those Republican fealty to the movement’s founding parents.

    Some say Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck nearly went deaf and blind respectively because they became so addicted to watching the copy Ailes provided each of them. Fox insiders whisper that Beck was fired because he tried selling a copy to David Barton, who planned to change the faces of the video’s protagonists to Barack Obama, FDR, and Hillary Clinton.

    Scientists speculate that this procreative event was the originating event from which santorum was created; where Rick Santorum is merely the most prolific contemporaneous producer. These same scientists have found there’s a strong positive causal effect between the number of times one views this holy union and one’s ability to produce santorum; so it’s not like Sen. Santorum hasn’t earned the identifying label.

  15. 15
    jba55

    Ot, but is it appropriate to call Romney “Governor”? He hasn’t been Gov since ’06.

  16. 16
    Michael Heath

    Draken writes:

    I have to ask: if you’re gay, why on earth would you stay with the GOP? It’s not that it stands for Gay Old Party, right?

    The unprincipled ambition to get ahead where one allows the feature discriminated against to be exploited by the bigots by providing them with plausibile deniability. In return the exploited enjoy some power, money and fame.

    When we observe a set of obvious candidates we always also observe they appear covertly cognizant of the fact their competency doesn’t match their ambitions though attempting to deny this fact even to themselves, e.g., Tammy Bruce, Clarence Thomas, and Sarah Palin. Other outcomes are also possible, exemplars like Alan Keyes and Michelle Bachmann illustrate that some loyal Republicans are just plain nuts.

  17. 17
    Area Man

    They probably want to preserve all the privileges they have as white upper middle class men. They don’t want equality or liberty for all, they just want what they feel is their privileged share of the pie.

    That, of course, is true. What’s hard to figure out is why they haven’t made the connection between the way the GOP treats gays and the way they treat everyone else. The mentality that wants to discriminate against gays is the same one that wants to discriminate against women, racial minorities, and the poor. Basically, the privileged and powerful trying to maintain their status by shitting on the vulnerable.

    I’m not sure how gay Republicans rationalize this. Do they really think that Republican behavior is purely a matter of principled conservatism except when it comes to gays? That the bullying and hostility towards gays is an aberration? Or are they so cynical they just don’t care: I’ll sign up with the haters in order to get an upper class tax cut?

  18. 18
    dingojack

    cjtotalbro says: “They justify being GOP voters by resorting to platitudes like:

    ‘I believe in individual liberty’
    … ”

    So the PoG would be perfectly happy to let a women decide what happens to her own body, happy to let people march against a war they believe is unjust and unjustified, happy to let inviduals of any race, gender or colour decide who they want to marry without interference?

    (Nah – didn’t think they would)

    Dingo

  19. 19
    Uncle Glenny

    @jba55

    Ot, but is it appropriate to call Romney “Governor”? He hasn’t been Gov since ’06.

    I’d been wondering about that so looked around and found this:

    http://www.formsofaddress.info/Governor_US.html

    Here’s the rule: Offices of which many people hold the same office at a time … senators, judges, Navy captains … continue to be addressed using the honorific used while they were in office. But offices which are held by a single person at a time … the president, the governor, the mayor … (any office you can put a “the” in front of) most formally go back to whatever they were before.

    Not how I remember it for a third-person reference (I was under the impression – as these journos seem to be – that President and Governor were titles which were still used in the third person out-of-office). Maybe it just comes from eliding the word “former”.

    I would not address Rmoney as “Your Excellency.”

  20. 20
    Modusoperandi

    Michael Heath “This species of conservative is now extinct. Instead the U.S. suffers from a sub-species of conservatism which is the progeny derived from the sexual union of Jerry Falwell, Grover Norquist, and Ayn Rand’s rotting corpse…”
    Ugly truth, beautiful description.

  21. 21
    johnscarry

    Uncle Glenny @19

    My reference has always been The Chicago Manual of Style and while they don’t explicitly state a rule, they give as examples: President Lincoln, Chief Justice Burger, Pope John Paul II, and more. Their examples directly contradict your source—and my experience.

  22. 22
    Uncle Glenny

    My reference has always been The Chicago Manual of Style

    Been meaning to get one of those (I’m pretty sure I don’t have one stashed away – I went through a phase of reading style books & the like several years ago). As I hinted, it seemed to be news to me, too, so I think you’re right.. My housemate concurs, too.

    (Someone is wrong on the Internet!) (And has published it in a book!)

  23. 23
    Rip Steakface

    I know that former presidents are referred to as President after their term has ended (sometimes “former” is added on in front). Governors are less powerful, obviously, but my guess is they’re probably the same way, unless they later attain another office in the country (e.g., governor -> presidency), at which point they gain the new honorific.

  24. 24
    dingojack

    So who likes Mittens?

    The PoG – nope
    Women – nope
    Blacks – nope
    Hispanics – nope
    RRR – nope
    Blue Collar workers – nope
    Liberals – nope
    Gays and lesbians – nope

    Just lucky Mittens has got the Mormons to fall back on and that they’re such a majority of voters.
    What? They’re NOT a majority of voters? Oh noes!!!

    :) Dingo

  25. 25
    John Phillips, FCD

    dingojack, however he does have one advantage as far as the GOP maroons are concerned, i.e. he is not a kenyancommiefascistislamicatheistnotwhitefullyantichrist so they will hold their noses and still pull the lever for him.

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