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Lively’s Bizarre Uganda Conspiracy

Lunatic anti-gay bigot Scott Lively was on Bryan Fischer’s radio show last week and offered a truly whacked conspiracy theory to explain why he simply had to go to Uganda and encourage them to pass harsh anti-gay legislation. And it’s all George Soros’ fault, of course.

Uganda, in the 1990s, entered into an incredible Christian revival and, as a result of that revival, Christian values were just infusing the whole society and they went from having the highest level of AIDS in Africa to the lowest through the promotion of abstinence and fidelity in marriage, you know, the core Christian values about sexuality.

Because of that, that represents a huge threat to the globalists who use the sexual revolution and the whole Planned Parenthood Federation and the global homosexual movement, they use all those components are a population control method as they gather more and more power for themselves.

So what Uganda did represented a major threat to them, so they began infiltrating the country. George Soros, for example, I don’t know what stage of the process, but he went in like he always does, bought media and set up grassroots activist groups. And then, starting in the late 90′s, early 2000′s they started, these infiltrators, starting introducing pornography into this very conservative society.

And so, in 2002, to combat this sort of threat to the Ugandan culture, the government held a conference against pornography and obscenity. I had the privilege of being the keynote speaker at the conference – the Lord really had orchestrated this because I knew how this was happening; I knew who was doing this and what it’s all about, so I was able to just lay it out. I said this is who’s doing it, this is what’s going to happen next, and you need to organize in your society to stop this group of people from homosexualizing your society.

And therefore we had to pass a law to kill the gay people, so they wouldn’t pollute society with their wickedness. Which is pretty much the exact same argument that Hitler used to justify killing the Jews (screw you, Godwin, this time it actually applies).

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  1. Chris from Europe says

    they went from having the highest level of AIDS in Africa to the lowest through the promotion of abstinence and fidelity in marriage

    I think that would require some evidence.

  2. daniellavine says

    Still, I sometimes have some ambivalence about the Law, which is far beyond my control these days. Like most parents, I’m frequently startled by the unexpected turn my 18-year-old offspring takes. …When I saw the photographs from Abu Ghraib, for example, I understood instantly the connection between the humiliations inflicted there and the ones the Nazis imposed upon death camp inmates—but I am the one person in the world least able to draw attention to that valid comparison.

    That’s Mike Godwin on Godwin’s law. He also left a comment on a Glenn Greenwald article a while ago in which he assured Glenn that he never intended Godwin’s law to discourage Nazi comparisons that are actually apt (like yours).

  3. dingojack says

    “However, a field-study conducted in Rakai, a region in southern Uganda, showed that abstinence and fidelity rates had been declining during 1995-2002, but without the expected rise in HIV/AIDS rates, suggesting a greater role for condoms than acknowledged by Museveni. The other central finding of the Rakai study was that, due to Uganda’s focus on prevention of the spread of HIV-AIDS, rather than treatment for those who had already contracted the disease, a large part of the decline in prevalence of HIV-AIDS is due to the premature death of those who have contracted it. This led to the popular play on the ABC campaign, ‘A-B-C-D’, with the D standing for Death. Because only prevalence is measured, incidence can actually increase while prevalence decreases if those who contract HIV are not treated for the disease, thereby dying younger. Later studies have seriously questioned the veracity of Uganda’s miraculous HIV-AIDS claims [citation needed].
    Wikipedia

    Funny how ‘C’ for condoms and ‘D’ are conspicuous by their absence.

    Dingo

  4. dingojack says

    “Sex education programmes in schools and on the radio focused on the need to negotiate safe sex and encouraged teenagers to delay the age at which they first have sex. Since 1990, a USAID-funded scheme to increase condom use through social marketing of condoms has boosted condom use from 7% nationwide to over 50% in rural areas and over 85% in urban areas. The social marketing scheme involved sales of condoms at subsidized prices or free distribution by both the government and the private sector. The scheme was also backed up by health education and other public information. Meanwhile more teenage girls reported condom use than any other age group — a trend reflected in falling infection rates among 13-19 year old girls in Masaka, in rural Uganda. And among 15-year-old boys and girls, the proportion who had never had sex rose from about 20% to 50% between 1989 and 1995.

    Condom use is also being encouraged among men who seek treatment for sexually transmitted infections. A new innovative social marketing scheme to promote the use of an STI self-treatment kit (“Clear Seven”) has proved to be successful in treating STIs and preventing HIV infection. The kit, which contains a 14-day course of tablets, condoms, partner referral cards, and an information leaflet, is designed to improve STI treatment rates, prevent over-the-counter sales of inappropriate treatments, encourage partner referral, and reinforce condom use. The distribution system relies on the use of small retail outlets which are normally licensed to sell over-the-counter drugs but not antibiotics. The Ugandan Government has waived these restrictions to promote sales of Clear Seven, marketed at the subsidized price of US$ 1.35, and trained shopkeepers in the management of STIs. As a result, cure rates for urethritis have increased from 46% to 87% and condom use during treatment has more than doubled (from 32% to 65%)”.
    http://www.who.int

    Dingo

  5. dingojack says

    Not as if this hasn’t been refuted at least 7 years ago
    on the 24th Feburary 2005 the San Frncisco Chronicle reported:

    “Dr. Ronald Gray of Johns Hopkins University, co-author of the Rakai study, said that much of Uganda’s early bout with high rates of HIV infection coincided with a period of war in the 1980s. By the 1990s, the country was settling down to a period of relative peace and a return to normal sexual behaviors.
    A rebel insurgency continues, however, in northern Uganda, and there are no data to determine whether the nation’s AIDS prevention efforts are succeeding or failing in those areas marked by violence.
    The push for abstinence until marriage, and the so-called “zero-grazing” policy discouraging sex with multiple partners, does not appear in the Rakai study to have made an impact, according to Gray.
    “Over the past decade, we’re just not seeing it,” he said.
    The Rakai findings are based on an extensive and continuing process of interviewing 10,000 adults each year — a so-called population-based survey that is considered the gold standard for this kind of epidemiological research.
    One piece of good news is that, despite indications of slippage in both sexual abstinence and efforts to limit the number of sexual partners, the HIV rate in Rakai continues to drop.
    But the percentage of men aged 15 to 49 who reported in 2002 having more than one nonmarital sex partner each year has risen to 50 percent from less than 30 percent in 1995, according to the report.
    The decline in abstinence was most pronounced among teenagers. The proportion of sexually inactive girls has fallen from 60 to 50 percent since 1995; among boys it has fallen from about 32 percent to 28 percent.
    The median age for girls to have their first sexual encounter — another marker of successful abstinence education — dropped to 16 in 2002 from 17 in 1995.
    Reports of consistent condom use by men rose to more than 50 percent by 2002, compared with 10 percent a decade earlier. Among women, reports of condom use rose from virtually zero to 25 percent.”
    SFC 24-02-2005

    Dingo

  6. says

    @ 4 and 5

    Nope. God did it through abstinence and fidelity. Because it’s just totally easy for humans ages 14-ish through 40-ish to refrain from having sex, since it’s something they almost never think about unless subjected to forced porn by George Soros.
    And nearly all men are faithful to their significant others unless the porn rays infect them with demons.
    I’m sure Pat Robertson would back me up on this.

  7. Chris from Europe says

    Okay, so it’s even worse. Uganda’s HIV infected are left to die by their evangelical de facto dictator.

  8. says

    After seeing what the US has become in the last decade, I am now a “globalist” and in favor of world government. If anyone here knows how I can join the secret movement to overthrow everything, please let me know…

  9. says

    I said this is who’s doing it, this is what’s going to happen next, and you need to organize in your society to stop this group of people from homosexualizing your society.

    Which is why cops shouldn’t mow their lawns in their underwear. The enemy is here, too!!

  10. hunter says

    So let me see if I’ve got this right — Scott Lively is lying through his teeth.

    Who would ever have suspected? (Sorry, but he’s one of that select group who, if one of them tells me the sky is blue, I want it fact-checked. But not by Politifact.)

  11. cptdoom says

    It seems to me that Godwin’s Law also must be suspended any time Lively is discussed, as he is the author of the greatest example of the Law ever – the Pink Swastika – in which he argued that the most evil Nazis were all homosexuals and it was their sexuality that drove them to mass murder (because we all know the most violent men are all gay – not). There’s no proof to this, of course, but in comparison the Soros-inspired lunacy above seems almost reasonable.

    Ironically, I believe Lively’s claim, made during his later Uganda trips, that the Rwandan genocide was “likely” caused by similarly violent gay men is part of the foundation of the human rights case recently filed against him.

  12. DaveL says

    And so, in 2002, to combat this sort of threat to the Ugandan culture, the government held a conference against pornography and obscenity. I had the privilege of being the keynote speaker at the conference – the Lord really had orchestrated this because I knew how this was happening; I knew who was doing this and what it’s all about, so I was able to just lay it out. I said this is who’s doing it, this is what’s going to happen next, and you need to organize in your society to stop this group of people from homosexualizing your society.

    Wait, is he suggesting pornography makes people gay?

  13. Chris from Europe says

    Isn’t arguing that gay people are dangerous, violent mass murderers an implicit call for mass murder of gay people?

    But of course, he isn’t at all involved with the folks pushing the Kill-the-gays bill.

  14. Chris from Europe says

    Yes, I have to thank dingojack for answering my request. (Btw, what happened in Queensland?)

  15. scifi the first (formerly scifi1) says

    Chris –

    I’m sure dingo will give a more defined answer, but in the meantime:

    The Labor party was routed by a numpty in the pocket of developers and a VERY influential mining ‘magnate’. In other words, Clive Palmer is both Premier and Treasurer of the state, despite not appearing on voting cards.

    The ‘real’ premier (Campbell Newman) was previously mayor of Brisbane City and pretty much allowed his mates to concrete the place and some of the outer suburbs, turning it into his own personal super engineering toy (he’s a former army engineer, doncha know?). The upshot being that the city’s a mess of useless new roads and tunnelling corporations going bankrupt ‘coz no-one wanted to use ‘em. Newman then bailed out before finishing his term to fuck up the rest of the state.

    Labor did themselves no favours, BTW, but then the press in QLD is pretty much controlled by News Limited, the only mass marketed rag being the Courier Mail. Generally though, politics is in a parlous state here – it’s very difficult to define who believes what as it’s all become a garbled mess.

    This is just an opinion, of course. Dingo may well come to the party with some more lucid research.

    One thing that really does worry me, though is that there was to be some tightening up of the school curriculum to insist that religious schools dialled back on promoting creationism over evolution, among other things. Traditionally, the LNP here give a free ride to the nutbags. We’ll see.

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