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Santorum’s Weird Obsession With Your Sex Life

The more people dig into statements made by Rick Santorum over the last few years, the more it is revealed just how warped the guy is. He seems absolutely obsessed with regulating your sex life, while projecting that obsession on everyone else. This is from a forum he took part in during 2008:

Woodstock is the great American orgy. This is who the Democratic Party has become. They have become the party of Woodstock. The prey upon our most basic primal lusts, and that’s sex. And the whole abortion culture, it’s not about life. It’s about sexual freedom. That’s what it’s about. Homosexuality. It’s about sexual freedom.

All of the things are about sexual freedom, and they hate to be called on them. They try to somehow or other tie this to the Founding Father’s vision of liberty, which is bizarre. It’s ridiculous…

It comes down to sex. That’s what it’s all about. It comes down to freedom, and it comes down to sex. If you have anything to with any of the sexual issues, and if you are on the wrong side of being able to do all of the sexual freedoms you want, you are a bad guy. And you’re dangerous because you are going to limit my freedom in an area that’s the most central to me. And that’s the way it’s looked at.

And that’s the way it should be looked at. Santorum is on record saying he wants to stamp out the use of birth control. He’s on record saying that the idea of privacy is what has undermined the country. How could it possibly not be true that he’s trying to limit the freedom of consenting adults to control their own most intimate relationships?

Comments

  1. Phillip IV says

    He seems absolutely obsessed with regulating your sex life, while projecting that obsession on everyone else.

    Well, I guess he really has no other choice than to obsess about sex, for if we take the “sexual” out of his remarks:

    This is who the Democratic Party has become. They have become the party of Woodstock. And the whole abortion culture, it’s not about life. It’s about freedom. That’s what it’s about. Homosexuality. It’s about freedom.

    All of the things are about freedom, and they hate to be called on them. They try to somehow or other tie this to the Founding Father’s vision of liberty, which is bizarre. It’s ridiculous…

    That’s what it’s all about. It comes down to freedom. If you have anything to with any of the issues, and if you are on the wrong side of being able to do all of the freedoms you want, you are a bad guy. And you’re dangerous because you are going to limit my freedom in an area that’s the most central to me. And that’s the way it’s looked at.

    …they become a bit too revealing, even for a conservative crowd.

  2. otrame says

    Okay, PhillipIV, you get an Internet for reading my mind. The best part is that he thinks there is something bad about freedom.

  3. DaveL says

    Yes, it is all about freedom. And the reason sexual freedom is so important is the very same reason why sexual control is so important to authoritarians like Santorum – there isn’t much that could be more personal, more intimate, more private than sex. If you concede that the government can impose arbitrary and capricious restrictions on your sex life (and no amount of religious doctrine or the half-hearted camouflage thereof is ever going to make them anything but arbitrary and capricious) then there’s nowhere left to draw the line.

  4. The Lorax says

    Mental image:

    Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, embracing each other and looking at the camera with coy smiles, saying, “I’m Jon Stewart… and I’m Stephen Colbert… and we’re going to be spreading Santorum.”

    Fade to black.

  5. Mr Ed says

    He reminds me of the villain in a serial killer movie, both obsessed and repulsed by sexual feelings. I get a Hannibal Lecter prickly hair on the neck feeling that poor Rick hasn’t reconciled his notion of the madonna and what women really are.

  6. Sastra says

    Sometimes I think part of the appeal of the conservative religious right is that it encourages people to think of politics as a sort of family dynamic. An entire country of diverse citizens is reduced to the more familiar level of a single household, and rights and duties are interpreted in the comfortable terms of raising and managing children.

    We can mentally handle that because it’s easier. It’s closer to our personal experience.

    If you read Santorum’s weird rant then as that of an exasperated father dealing with out-of-control 6th graders, it sounds pretty normal. At least, it probably sounds as reasonable as it could ever sound.

    I don’t know. Maybe the people who agree with the autocratic RR frame the entire approach from this perspective. The United States is a very large personal house. The “dads” are those who are simply translating the will of the Heavenly Father. We’re all children, but some of the more responsible kids have permission to be in temporary charge of the others. And you can’t give the little ones more freedom than they’re capable of handling. They certainly shouldn’t be having sex.

    Isn’t that supposed to be one of the most popular conservative takes on the Bible, the reason we are allowed to live our lives on such a sinful and corrupted earth? It’s to learn that we are unworthy of freedom and need to throw down pride and self-determination in order to blissfully submit like obedient children to our rightful ruler and creator. They’re apparently filtering politics through this and possibly don’t notice or mind the government intrusion into personal freedom as long as the biblical narrative has been tapped into.

  7. Hercules Grytpype-Thynne says

    @1:

    You do realize that linking here doesn’t do anything to influence Google placement, because all the links have the “nofollow” attribute.

  8. says

    Everybody knows that freedom doesn’t include the freedom to do things that are wrong(*1). Moral absolutes are absolute for a reason; they never change(*2).

    *1. Exempt drinking, dancing, smoking and gambling.
    *2. Exempt drinking, dancing, smoking and gambling.

  9. Michael Heath says

    It’ll be interesting to watch Tea Partiers deal with the fact their currently favored son exposes the lies about their actual motivations for existing relative to their falsely stated reasons.

  10. says

    Yeah, he’s obsessing on sex. What else do you expect him to talk about — all the wonderful things his party did in the eight years they had uncontested control of the country?

    The prey upon our most basic primal lusts, and that’s sex.

    Um, no, our most basic primal instinct is fear, and the desire to control anything and everything that could possibly affect us. And Santorum’s own party are the ones preying on that primal instinct.

  11. says

    Yes, it is all about freedom. And the reason sexual freedom is so important is the very same reason why sexual control is so important to authoritarians like Santorum – there isn’t much that could be more personal, more intimate, more private than sex. If you concede that the government can impose arbitrary and capricious restrictions on your sex life (and no amount of religious doctrine or the half-hearted camouflage thereof is ever going to make them anything but arbitrary and capricious) then there’s nowhere left to draw the line.

    This summarizes the whole thing quite well. (As does the edit removing ‘sexual’ from the Santorum that guy spewed.) These are also the kinds of people who burn their kids’ D&D and Harry Potter books, run ‘witches’ out of town, and spread gossip about how Bob sinned by enjoying a Hershey’s Kiss so that everyone knows to shun him and act holier than thou.

    And, I’m feeling obligated to state a truth that needs to be made explicit more often: Sex is good. Sex is natural. There’s nothing wrong about having responsible fun with it if you want to.

  12. dingojack says

    Perhaps someone could hire a PI to record Mr Frothy’s sexual exploits (home and away), I’m sure he’d be totally cool with that, right?
    Dingo

  13. raven says

    Santorum is pretty warped all right. He flat out says he doesn’t believe in separation of church and state. This freaked out even a lot of xians.

    ..Santorum says he doesn’t believe in separation of church and state
    By Lee-Anne Goodman, The Canadian Press | Associated Press – 1 hr 24 mins ago………WASHINGTON –

    Republican presidential hopeful Rick Santorum said Sunday that he doesn’t believe in the separation of church and state,

    adding that he was sickened by John F. Kennedy’s assurances to Baptist ministers 52 years ago that he would not impose his Catholic faith on them.

    “I don’t believe in an America where the separation of church and state is absolute,” Santorum, a devout Catholic, said in an interview from Michigan on ABC’s “This Week.”

    I think Ricky S. just committed political suicide here. Or I hope anyway.
    His made up Catholicism isn’t recognizable to most Catholics. It is a mixture of ancient Dark Age Catholicism crossed with modern backwoods fundie Xianity with some rage and a lot of hate thrown in.

    Fundie xians are pretty stupid. A recent news article found that many of them don’t realize he is actually a Catholic, a Fake Xian to many of them. Because mostly he is channeling fundie-ism.

  14. raven says

    Santorum’s warped personality isn’t his only problem.

    1. He is also a corporate toad lackey’s toad. He lost his reelection in Pennsylvania because he was the go to senator for any corporations and lobbyists who wanted to buy a senator.

    This is true christofascism.

    2. He is also a war monger. If he got in, we would have a war with Iran for sure. Iran isn’t my favorite theocratic dictatorship but our last two wars cost a huge amount and accomplished little.

    3. Our biggest problem isn’t people having sex. Clinton: It’s the economy, stupid.

    Our economy is stalled until 2018 if we are lucky, our budgets are wildly unbalanced, unemployment is high, incomes are falling, poverty is rising.

    A lot of this is Bush’es and Greenspan’s fault. Another incompetent Tea Partier, and the economy can join all the women who end up dead from back alley abortions.

  15. Chiroptera says

    Back in the 1980s when Reagan closed down all the psychiatric hospitals, who would’ve thought that they all would’ve ended up running the Republican Party?

  16. raven says

    In the unlikely event that Santorum was elected President, the next issue would just be surviving that. Two of my friends didn’t survive the Bush catastrophe, dead in Iraq.

    It could get ugly. When the Soviet empire collapsed, a lot of scientists promptly headed west and I knew some of them. They had to leave. They weren’t getting paid anymore and they spent all their time growing gardens for food (something they still do).

    They never saw it coming and these are very smart people.

    I’m still making contingency plans. It is likely the US dollar would end up sick or dead. At the least it would be a good idea to convert some liquid assets to harder and safer currencys. IMO, that would not include the Euro which has its own problems.

  17. says

    And the whole abortion culture

    WTF is an abortion culture?

    I don’t remember there being a section in bookstores (back when there were still bookstores) devoted to the joys of abortion. Abortion is rarely ever dealt with in movies and television, and most of the time when it is, the pregnant woman is portrayed as agonizing over it and then finally deciding to go through with the pregnancy.

    If there is an abortion culture in this country, it exists within the ranks of the religious right, where so many people devote their time and efforts to trying to abolish legal abortion. In other words, Rick Santorum is part of the abortion culture in this country.

  18. cottonnero says

    “Abortion culture” is a phrase roughly similar to “gay agenda”: it’s a conservative-ism to make it appear as if there is some sort of active conspiracy or something, where the reality is that there isn’t an abortion culture or gay agenda, just people who think that abortion should be legal and gays shouldn’t be beat up on sight (at minimum).

  19. D. C. Sessions says

    WTF is an abortion culture?

    I think it has something to do with taking an aborted fetus home for a party.

  20. says

    “Abortion culture”

    Translated:

    1) People who want to have sex for fun, most typically as part of a committed relationship.

    2) Proponents of the existing k-type reproduction strategy (raise ‘em right) for human beings instead of converting to the r-type (reproduce early and often, like insects) strategy implicitly or explicitly suggested by Republicans. This k-type strategy includes use of contraceptive measures and early term abortion to prevent pregnancies before sexual partners are in a good position to properly raise a child to healthy, productive adulthood. This contraceptive strategy is typically more effective because it takes sexual desire into account, instead of encouraging unhealthy repression, which can lead to self-destructive and/or antisocial behavior.

  21. Captain Mike says

    If you have anything to with any of the sexual issues, and if you are on the wrong side of being able to do all of the sexual freedoms you want, you are a bad guy.

    Yes. Yes you are.

  22. Francisco Bacopa says

    People really shouldn’t knock the Santorums for their family fetus viewing. This sort thing is actually quite common among families experiencing late pregnancy loss and still birth. And no, it doesn’t warp the kids, but actually answers a lot of the questions they might have by providing concrete evidence of what happened. It’s not the right choice for every family, but some families do it and I think that’s fine.

    You might also be interested to know that chimps carry their stillborn infants around for a day or two and show the rest of the troop what happened.

  23. slc1 says

    Re Francisco Bacopa @ #28

    You might also be interested to know that chimps carry their stillborn infants around for a day or two and show the rest of the troop what happened.

    But Santorum is an evolution denier who doesn’t believe that chimps and humans have a common ancestor so that this comment would be irrelevant to him.

  24. dave says

    Francisco Bacopa:

    This sort thing is actually quite common among families experiencing late pregnancy loss and still birth.

    Citation? I know two women who experienced late-term still births and both find Santorum’s actions abhorrent. Perhaps Im wrong, feel free to link to some Mental Health professionals arguing this is an appropriate method of handling the family’s grief.

    Although, even if you do, this seems to count against the whole, “A fetus is a person” belief. I mean, we would never use the body of a deceased person to help manage our grief. No one takes home grandma’s body after the stroke for a photo session on the family couch.

  25. D. C. Sessions says

    I mean, we would never use the body of a deceased person to help manage our grief.

    SRSLY?

    You’ve never heard of a “viewing?” (I admittedly find the practice abhorrent, but I’ll defend its legality.)

  26. says

    Even if what he said were true — which it’s not — that still doesn’t give him the right, the power, or the authority, even as president, to go about telling us all that we can only have sex in the missionary position and ONLY to make babies.

  27. says

    The “abortion agenda” is not wanting to use pregnancy to punish women who have sex, voluntarily or not, or have a contraceptive failure.

    Roy Zimmerman, “Defenders of Marriage”

    We’re an army of dicks with a militant stance.
    Let’s get the government out of our lives and into our pants!
    Defenders of marriage, defending the institution
    Against people who want to get married,
    And have their insurance carried,
    And be beneficiaried,
    And be next to the ones they love when they are buried.

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