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Feb 26 2012

Santorum Defends Satan Comments

Rick Santorum is defending his loony statements in a speech at Ave Maria University about Satan tearing down American institutions. When asked by reporters about it, he said that digging up that speech was “absurd” and that it’s just an attack on his faith:

“Its a joke, its absurd. You know, if a person I‘m a person of faith. I believe in good and evil. I think if somehow or another because you’re a person of faith you believe in good and evil is a disqualifier for president, we’re going to have a very small pool of candidates who can run for president.”

Believing in “good and evil” can mean a lot of different things. I believe lots of ideas and actions are good and lots of ideas and actions are evil. But I don’t believe that some supernatural bad guy is responsible for them. Believing that is crazy. And declaring yourself a “person of faith” doesn’t make it any less crazy.

Then he tells a rather obvious lie:

“You guys are asking questions that are not relevant to what’s being discussed in America today. What we’re talking about in America is trying to get America working, that’s what my speeches are about, that’s what we’re going to talk about in this campaign. If they want to to dig up old speeches when I’m talking to a religious group, they can go right ahead and do so but I’m going to stay on message, I’m going to talk about what Americans want to talk about, which is creating jobs, getting our country safer and secure and yeah, taking on the forces around this world who want to do harm to America. You bet I will take ‘em on.”

When do you plan to start, Rick? Lately it’s been all about Obama’s mythical war on religion, abortion, homosexuality, birth control, the evils of prenatal testing and public education.

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  1. 1
    hunter

    You have to keep in mind that Santorum’s real audience is pretty much lacking in long-term memory — like, anything that happened more than fifteen minutes ago is long gone.

    And they all know just who “the forces around the world who want to do harm to America” really are.

  2. 2
    cadrpear

    Of course Frothy believes in good and evil. He believes that Rick Santorum is good, and anyone who disagrees is evil.

  3. 3
    Michael Heath

    I find it amusing when conservatives argue that they remain steadfast in their previously asserted wingnut convictions though it’s unfair for the media to ask them to defend those very convictions. Talk about considering oneself entitled.

  4. 4
    slc1

    Re Michael Heath @ #3

    And the lame stream media allows themselves to be intimidated by the Santorums of the world and fails to press them on their nutty pronouncements. In basketball, this is known as playing the refs. The late Red Auerbach, when he was coaching the Boston Celtics, was a master of this technique. Players for that team were notorious for complaining about every foul call.

  5. 5
    davidct

    “And declaring yourself a “person of faith” doesn’t make it any less crazy.” Actually “faith” is not something to be respected. It is a declaration that you are willing to accept as true, things for which you have no evidence. It is not that far removed from “crazy”.

  6. 6
    Phillip IV

    And that’s exactly why Mitt Romney would have been the GOP’s best shot at the presidency – he’s a world-class doublespeaker who’d never simply speak his own mind (and his mind isn’t quite the same narrow cesspit as Santorum’s to begin with). When Mitt is approached about a past remark like that, he smiles and talks into a fluffy cloud of unspecific sentiments, palatable to a large section of the populace.

    Satorum? Defends his remark, then clumsily tries to change the subject. Brilliant. He’s a smear-campaigners dream target. You only need to put a dollop of dirt somewhere on him, and he’ll happily spread it all over himself without outside help.

    But Mittens is no longer looking all that electable either, after having been raked over hot coals three times over by his own party. Clever move.

    And forget about a brokered convention – if Santorum makes it to the convention with even a moderate number of delegates, the Teabaggers will scream bloody murder if he isn’t the candidate. If not even commit a few. The best case scenario for the GOP in that case would be cratering enthusiasm and absolutely no ground game for the election (The Kochs really suck at going door to door). The worst case: a split.

    At this point (at which a lot can still happen, though), I’d say they’re likely toast if Mitt is the candidate. And they’re certainly toast if it’s Santorum. And if they nominate Christie in a brokered convention, they’re the charred remains of something that once was toast.

  7. 7
    Chiroptera

    What we’re talking about in America is trying to get America working, that’s what my speeches are about, that’s what we’re going to talk about in this campaign.

    Man, it’s hard to tell exactly what he’s trying to say. But, then, that’s the conservatives fault. They have destroyed the English language — at least in the use of US political speeches — that words no longer have meaning. All statements are just platitudes without precise meaning.

    At any rate, Santorum, if you don’t think your “faith” is relevant to the debate, then don’t bring it up yourself.

    On the other hand, if you spout off crazy nonsense, then a lot of us really do think that it’s relevant as to whether you’re really suited to be President.

  8. 8
    D. C. Sessions

    And forget about a brokered convention – if Santorum makes it to the convention with even a moderate number of delegates, the Teabaggers will scream bloody murder if he isn’t the candidate.

    And then there’s Paul’s game of getting his (dare I say “fanatical?”) loyalists selected as the representatives from caucus states.

  9. 9
    peterh

    Questioning the man on what he’s said publicly is “attacking” him? Martyrdom complex much?

  10. 10
    raven

    Don’t forget that even in Pennsyltucky, Santorum wasn’t too popular.

    He lost his senate re-election vote even when Bush was still president.

    Besides his loony version of Catholicism he just made up, he had a lot of baggage from being the go to senator for corporations and lobbyists to buy.

    Despite his claims that the government is under the control of satan, he was a classic example of a shady, possibly corrupt insider i.e. part of it.

  11. 11
    raven

    As one newspaper editorial said paraphrasing:

    Santorum doesn’t want to be President.

    He wants to be the Dark Ages Pope-in-chief of the USA.

    IMO, he is unqualified to serve on a school board much less in any higher elected offices. An opinion shared with the voters of Pennsylvania who tossed him out of office.

    But there is always a silver lining. If Santorum ever managed to get elected, we wouldn’t have to worry about the future of the USA. There wouldn’t be one.

  12. 12
    lordshipmayhem

    Santorum is unqualified to serve as county dog catcher, much less on a school board.

  13. 13
    Modusoperandi

    raven “Besides his loony version of Catholicism he just made up, he had a lot of baggage from being the go to senator for corporations and lobbyists to buy.”
    Unless it’s a Democrat doing it (or rumoured to be doing it), they do not care about that(*1). The problem, you see, isn’t Big Business corrupting government, it’s government corrupting Big Business. You know, by existing.
    In closing, to protect business from government, we have to minimize the size, scope and power of government. But not until it has completely deregulated business(*2).

    “Despite his claims that the government is under the control of satan, he was a classic example of a shady, possibly corrupt insider i.e. part of it.”
    He was fighting to break the Establishment from inside the system. That’s how much of a rebel he was. Gingritch, too. And Paul. It only looked like they were working for it, by putting its people in the right places, somewhat irritating it, and not being a credible threat to it, respectively. Romney, meanwhile, is the Establishment. Ignore that he’s the only one left in the race whose never been in DC.

    *1. See: Solyandra or TARP, but only TARP after Obama took office.
    *2. And also put a cop in every uterus.

  14. 14
    fifthdentist

    I’m going to have my first-term teabagging Congress critter in town in a couple of weeks, and I’m full-on “atheist praying” he brings up contraception/religious freedom and rights-come-from-the-Bible shit.
    That way I can ask him afterwards in an interview to point to exactly in the Wholly Babble old Yahweh comes out in favor of religious freedom and individual rights.
    Does anyone have any particularly egregious Bible verses showing the exact opposite that I can offer him as suggestions? (Other than four of the 10 Suggestions).
    It’s looking like I’m going to be moving out of newspaper reporting in a few weeks, and I’d really love to make them memorable for all concerned. Especially me.

  15. 15
    raven

    @14 FD:

    Romans 13
    Submission to Governing Authorities

    1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established.

    The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.

    3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

    6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

    There is one.

    At that time the civil authorities were all Kings with a rare Queen here and there. Democracys didn’t exist since the Romans conquered the Greeks. This passage among others was used to justify the Divine Right of Kings to Rule and your Divine obligatation to pay your taxes.

    You are probably wasting your time though. The vast majority of fundies have no idea what is in the bible or care. The only reason they would have to know it is so they can perform their Third Sacred Sacrament, hypocrisy.

  16. 16
    Michael Heath

    lordshipmayhem writes:

    Santorum is unqualified to serve as county dog catcher, much less on a school board.

    I’m certain that if the dogs had a say, they’d be eager supporters to elect Rick Santorum dog catcher if Mitt Romney was his opponent.

  17. 17
    karmacat

    Whenever I see Sanctimonious Santorum now, I keep hearing the church lady say, “Could it be……SATAN!”

  18. 18
    Pierce R. Butler

    You bet I will take ‘em on.

    So close, so far.

    With just one little “cha” in there, he could’ve locked up the Palinista vote…

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