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Nov 29 2011

Geller Freaks Out About Muslim Creationism

You might want to put those irony meters away for this one. The endlessly idiotic Pam Geller has found a new target for her righteous rage after the terrorist turkeys and it is — spins wheel — Muslim medical students opposing the teaching of evolution because if conflicts with the Quran.

I am surprised the headline wasn’t “Darwin hate speech incites Muslim extremism.” The idea that they reject that which conflicts with their belief system is consistent with everything we have suffered in this war on the West. They rewrote the history on Israel and the Middle East (not to mention taking credit for “scientific inventions” invented by others) and the left swallowed it whole — let’s see where this goes.

The story she links to is about Muslim medical students in England walking out on lectures about Darwinism.

Muslim students, including trainee doctors on one of Britain’s leading medical courses, are walking out of lectures on evolution claiming it conflicts with creationist ideas established in the Koran.

Professors at University College London have expressed concern over the increasing number of biology students boycotting lectures on Darwinist theory, which form an important part of the syllabus, citing their religion.

Similar to the beliefs expressed by fundamentalist Christians, Muslim opponents to Darwinism maintain that Allah created the world, mankind and all known species in a single act.

She’s absolutely right to criticize those students, of course. But not only has she not aimed such rhetoric at the millions and millions of fundamentalist Christians in this country who have exactly the same problem of rejecting anything, including evolution, that conflicts with their religious views, she actually runs an ad on her website from a creationist group. And I guarantee that nearly all of the Americans who support her bizarre crusade against any and all Muslims are creationists themselves. One of her braindead commenters says:

Oh irony of ironies. How will the Left reconcile their love of Darwinists with their love of Islamists?

Fortunately, I don’t have to reconcile them, as I think they’re both wrong-headed.

I think you have this backwards. I have no love of Darwinists or Islamists. I accept evolution as true, of course, because the evidence for it is overwhelming. But that doesn’t mean I love “Darwinists.” So how will all those fundie Christians who reject evolution and Islam criticize these students when they are guilty of the same things themselves? Perhaps, like Geller, they will simply play pretend. It’s what they do best.

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  1. 1
    fifthdentist

    Yes, but christianists reject evolution because they know that Bible-god created everything in six days.
    Muslims reject evolution because they are poopy heads who worship an idol and hate Jesus.

  2. 2
    scienceavenger

    Perhaps, like Geller, they will simply play pretend.

    That certainly pertains to her reader’s claim that the left loves Islamists. What planet are these people on? It were leftists who drew the cartoons of Mohammed, and a leftie who tossed a torn Koran into the trash with a topping of coffee grounds. Exactly who are these supposed Islamist-loving lefties and what form has their love taken?

  3. 3
    Ing

    Um FFB runs ads like that too though.

  4. 4
    Raging Bee

    Creotard-on-creotard violence, WOOHOO!!! Who brought the popcorn? This could be better than “Clash of the Titans!”

    RELEASE THE CRACKERS!

  5. 5
    Ed Brayton

    Ing: The difference is that the one she has is not a Google ad, it’s a direct ad sale. You can tell by the size of the ad, which is a size that none of the ad networks serve. She sold that ad directly.

  6. 6
    Bronze Dog

    It’d be funny if it weren’t so sad that they consider it “Muslim-loving” to give everyone equal freedom of religion and equal rights to build places of worship.

    I once had a troll who considered me a “n*****-lover” who believed “black good, white bad” because I said his concept of race was vague and incoherent. Pretty much the same principle.

  7. 7
    raven

    What is the difference between fundie xians, fundie Moslems, and Fundie Jews again?

    I really can’t see much, if any difference.

    They are so similar that they can steal each others propaganda and just change god to Allah and toss jesus away.

    There is a much higher percentage of creationists in some Moslem countries. IIRC, in many it is up towards 80-90%.

  8. 8
    raven

    Muslim students, including trainee doctors on one of Britain’s leading medical courses, are walking out of lectures on evolution claiming it conflicts with creationist ideas established in the Koran.

    What are they afraid of?

    If Allah existed and they have the Truth, they shouldn’t care.

    There is no requirement that they “believe” in evoution. They are however, required to know what scientists have found out about reality.

    Doesn’t make me too confident about seeing a British educated Moslem doctor after reading that.

  9. 9
    Captain Mike

    What the fuck is a “Darwinist?”

  10. 10
    d cwilson

    What is the difference between fundie xians, fundie Moslems, and Fundie Jews again?

    The same as the difference between Coke and Pepsi.

  11. 11
    timgueguen

    The difference between the fundies is their clothing. Fundamentalist Christians(well, the men, anyways, because they’re the only ones important to God) wear pants, just like Jesus did. They don’t wear long skirts like those horrible Muslims do. They also only wear Jesus approved hats, manly ones like baseball caps and cowboy hats, not those weird UnGodly ones Jews and Muslims wear, which are often girly looking. And don’t forget pork. The Christians get to eat bacon, which Jesus and the Apostles probably ate at the Last Supper.

  12. 12
    Tony! The Queer Shoop

    >Yes, but christianists reject evolution because they know that Bible-god created everything in six days. <

    –all the while oblivious to the obvious: why did it take a supposedly omnipotent being 6 days to create the universe (followed immediately by "why did this supposedly omnipotent deity need to rest on the 7th day?")

  13. 13
    Michael Heath

    raven asks [rhetorically]:

    What are [Muslim Creationists] afraid of?

    Same thing Christian creationists are afraid of, scientific progress that improves human outcomes which reduces fear which makes it harder to keep the kiddies in the flock and causes their beliefs to look increasingly delusional and idiotic. Unless it’s them or one of their own in need of medical help, than they consume the results of scientific progress as avidly as an atheist (well, nearly all of them).

  14. 14
    lynnerhys

    Wow. Irony indeed. And goodness, she’s got rabid readers!

  15. 15
    Pinky

    Raven asks:

    “What is the difference between fundie xians, fundie Moslems, and Fundie Jews again?”

    The difference is this: only US brand Christians™ place enough delusional faith in their deity to handle poisonous snakes and drink deadly poison.

    Muslim extremists may have their suicide bombs, but the quick sissified death is nothing compared to the slow, painful death that comes from a good snake bite or swallowing drain cleaner. It is much more exquisite to anticipate meeting their Yahweh as venom courses through the body causing, according to Wikipedia:

    “…overwhelming fear, panic, and emotional instability, which may cause symptoms such as nausea and vomiting, diarrhea, vertigo, fainting, tachycardia, and cold, clammy skin.”

    Yes, please sign me up for that.

    In 680 A.D., Hussein, the grandson of the Prophet Muhammad, was brutally murdered during a battle against the ruling Caliph. Shi’a Muslims remember the death of Hussein on the 10th day of the month of Muharram. Part of the observance is parading around lashing themselves until they bleed.١

    Such fun and games have nothing over drinking drain cleaner. Imagine the rapturous feeling as a person awaits a visit with their godhead as their stomach dissolves and they start vomiting blood that has been chemically changed into a black solid.١١

    (١About.Com)

    (١١Don’t try this at home. Anyone reading this who is entertaining the thought I might be serious, please; drink a glass of warm milk and go to bed immediately. Tomorrow watch as much TV as possible as it will drive all the thoughts out of your head, even the bad ones. Now you know…)

  16. 16
    slc1

    Re Timgueguen @ #12

    The Christians get to eat bacon, which Jesus and the Apostles probably ate at the Last Supper.

    Considering that Yeshua of Nazareth and his apostles were all religious Jews, this is highly unlikely.

  17. 17
    Zeno

    Geller’s lives in a freaked-out condition as her natural state. It’s awesomely creepy how her hair-trigger irrationality is always on display.

  18. 18
    martinc

    I once described Islam as “same tale; different fairy”, which I think successfully offended everybody.

  19. 19
    uzza

    martinc wins the thread. I am so stealing that.

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    timgueguen

    slc1, I thought my sarcasm was obvious. The sad thing is that many Christians likely don’t understand that Jesus, assuming he existed, was a Jew, and hence wouldn’t have eaten pork. Of course that’s pretty minor compared to those who fetishise the King James translation of the Bible, and act as if the New Testamnet was written in 17th Century English in the first place.

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