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Oct 28 2011

Exactly What We Don’t Need

Add actor Orlando Jones to the list of people who really ought to shut up. On his Twitter account he said:

“Libyan Rebels kill Gaddafi, if American liberals want respect they better stop listening to Aretha & kill Sarah Palin(: “


In case you think he was just joking, he’s standing by it and offering a ridiculous response:

I’ll take pretentious and juvenile bullshit for $1000, Alex. How is saying that liberals should kill Palin “holding up a mirror to society”? And this notion that if you get criticism for saying something stupid you’ve “hit a nerve” is asinine. So is the claim that people should be focusing on real issues instead of criticizing him; maybe he should have focused on real issues rather than on saying stupid and vile things on Twitter.

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  1. 1
    Aquaria

    1) I’m trying to figure out how listening to Aretha Franklin has anything to do with is persecution fantasy about liberals killing Palin.

    2) Where’s the art in that, dumbass? It’s purely political speech, no art involved.

    3) Who the fuck is Orlando Jones?

  2. 2
    Randomfactor

    3) A cut-rate Florida version of the Raiders of the Lost Ark guy.

  3. 3
    Eric R

    3) who the fuck is Orlando Jones?

    This is what I dislike about twitter, stupid people say mindnumbingly stupid shit every day, Now they have a global soapbox for their stupid shit and for some reason now people get all bent about absolute nobodies saying stupid shit.

    On the other side of the coin, its hard to dismiss the good side of twitter.

  4. 4
    etcetera

    On the plus side, it’s liberals who are calling him on his bullshit. If this was Fox News reporting on a conservative talking head, they would be shrugging their shoulders and saying “can’t you guys take a joke?”

  5. 5
    Aquaria

    Thanks for the answers. I don’t listen to the radio, watch TV, or go to movies, so I’m never sure who’s a celebrity and who isn’t. I guess I could have googled him, but it didn’t occur to me. He sounded like someone I didn’t want to give hit counts to.

  6. 6
    tommykey

    What a twit! Or maybe Jones is going to claim he meant that liberals should kill her power and influence. But Sarah Palin’s star is already waning. Why give her another reason to play the poor, persecuted victim?

  7. 7
    Brett McCoy

    Orlando Jones:

    “Good evening Sir, my name is Steve. I come from a rough area. I used to be addicted to crack but now I am off it and trying to stay clean. That is why I am selling magazine subscriptions.”

    (Office Space)

  8. 8
    lofgren

    Orlando Jones is an actor and comedian who is damn funny in even the crappiest roles. The guy deserves some respect for his ability to make shitty lines written by hacks funny. He can also turn in a serious performance if called upon but I think most people are familiar with him through his comedies.

    As for how saying that liberals should kill Sarah Palin is a mirror to society, that’s easy: Killing people often appears to be the only thing that gets shit done. It didn’t land as funny because people with more familiarity with the systems in question know that there are other ways to change and that killing Sarah Palin would likely not accomplish anything. It was a joke, it wasn’t funny. Comedians work by tossing out hundreds of lines, fine-tuning the ones that land, and praying you remember the hits and not the misses. Before the cyber age he would have delivered this line in some smoky club, it would have fallen flat, he would never mention it or think about it ever again, and nobody would care.

    The suggestion that the second shows that he is “standing by” his comment is just dumb. Clearly he is not standing by the comment as a serious suggestion. He intended it as a pithy one-liner reflecting the futility of current left-wing tactics (my guess is he was referring to the Occupy movements). He is not “standing by” anything. He’s just refusing to apologize for failing to land a specific joke. If comedians went around apologizing for every stupid joke they told, that would be their entire act.

    Finally I will say I completely agree with his response. B actor bombs stupid abortion of a line on a social media platform? God, who cares? The most response this deserved was a “Dude, not funny” from his followers. That it got echoed anywhere is a clear testament to the total lack of priorities. It also illustrates his original point in a way: it took Occupy Wall Street a month to hit the front page of the papers with their peaceful protest. Meanwhile even suggesting that Sarah Palin getting killed might be a more efficient way of effecting change gets reported as if it is news.

    I think Orlando Jones’ has been proven quite correct. If liberals were out killing archconservative reactionaries like Sarah Palin, you can bet nobody would give a shit what Orlando Jones tapped out on Twitter this morning.

  9. 9
    Larry

    No, really, who IS Orlando Jones?

  10. 10
    lofgren

    No, really, who IS Orlando Jones?

    Hey, I found this link you might be interested in:

    Everything you need to know about Orlando Jones

    Step 1: Click the link. Wait for the page to load.
    Step 2: Type “Orlando Jones” in the text box.
    Step 3: Click “Search.” Wait for the page to load.
    Step 4: Click one of the top links on the page that appears. Anything with IMDB or Wikipedia in the link name is probably a good start.

    I recommend bookmarking the link in your browser so that you can repeat this process for many other subjects you might be interested in. It takes about as much time as logging in to WordPress, typing your question, and waiting for another commenter to answer you. But then you couldn’t be bothered to read the comment directly above yours which answers this very question, so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that, given access to the fastest, most thorough, most vast repository of human knowledge that has ever existed, you chose the slowest and least reliable approach to getting an accurate answer to your question.

  11. 11
    Area Man

    “On the other side of the coin, its hard to dismiss the good side of twitter.”

    Was that sarcasm?

  12. 12
    Hercules Grytpype-Thynne

    I’m trying to figure out how listening to Aretha Franklin has anything to do with is persecution fantasy about liberals killing Palin.

    As far as I can see, it’s just that he typed the word “respect” and Aretha’s song came to mind.

  13. 13
    sithrazer

    …saying stupid and vile things on Twitter.

    I thought that was precisely what twitter was for. Maybe not necessarily vile, but certainly stupid. It encourages verbal diarrhea, as much as text on the internet can be considered verbal. It’s an instant messenger cracked open for the viewing pleasure of those with voyeuristic tendencies, full of the inane bullshit that, really, no one but those involved in the conversation should give a crap about. Some people have managed to find good use for it, but those are relatively few and far between.

    Actorguy McWhoisit was right on one point, his comment was not worth anyones attention.

  14. 14
    Larry

    Gee, lofgren, thanks for info. Perhaps you can make use of it to repair your malfunctioning sarcasm detector gene.

  15. 15
    Worldtraveller

    logren, you might get more funny/sarcasm out of this:

    http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=orlando+jones

  16. 16
    Ed Brayton

    Lofgren wrote:

    I think Orlando Jones’ has been proven quite correct. If liberals were out killing archconservative reactionaries like Sarah Palin, you can bet nobody would give a shit what Orlando Jones tapped out on Twitter this morning.

    Thank you for proving my point. And I really like the guy as an actor. But he needs to STFU.

  17. 17
    Deen

    People weren’t angry at his right to free speech. People were just angry because of the content of his speech – and were using their own right to free speech to express their anger.

  18. 18
    d cwilson

    Orlando Jones was the only redeemable part of the otherwise excretory movie, “The Time Machine”. He was also the 7-Up Guy for a while.

    How any of that makes him someone people should listen to about politics, I have no idea.

  19. 19
    lofgren

    Thank you for proving my point. And I really like the guy as an actor. But he needs to STFU.

    I’m sorry, what point is that?

    Are you referring to this one:

    maybe he should have focused on real issues rather than on saying stupid and vile things on Twitter.

    Well, I was sparing you because I respect you, but let me tell you this is absolute bullshit.

    Orlando Jones is a B actor and comedian. He makes jokes for a living. This particular joke addressed the apparent futility of peaceful protest. It was a bad joke. I’m sure it made sense in Orlando Jones’ mind, but it came out all wrong and misaimed.

    But to compare Orlando Jones to the Huffington Post, an online magazine that at least pretends to be a serious news source, is asinine.

    1. Aside from not presenting himself as a professional political commenter, Jones lacks the resources and knowledge that the Post pretends to. It naturally follows that he has far less of an obligation to write about “real issues.”

    2. Do we know that Jones doesn’t talk about “real issues.” Presented here is a single Twitter line with no context. Is this representative of his typical rhetoric? Does he routinely call for killing conservatives? Does he abstain completely from commenting on substantive topics? How much do you, Ed Brayton, know about the time and energy that Jones puts into “real issues?” Can you say with authority that he doesn’t speak about them? What evidence do you have that this particular twitter post was made at the expense of substantive statements about real issues?

    3. Even if Orlando Jones were a political scholar with a supersecret backup plan that will fix this country in a weekend, so what? The sequence of events was: inconsequential actor makes inconsequential joke in inconsequential format. News media freaks the fuck out. Inconsequential actor suggests that maybe freaking out about his inconsequential statements is not really something worth spending time and energy on. Pointing your finger at the inconsequential actor and shouting NO U is just childish. Orlando Jones was doing his job by cracking meanspirited jokes at the expense of safe targets. Presumably, Huffington Post takes its role as political magazine a little bit more seriously.

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