Right Wing Watch reports on Bryan Fischer’s latest bit of blatant hypocrisy. He lashed out at Lawrence O’Donnell over his interview with Cain (which I haven’t seen) and said this:
I mean, the pathetic arrogance of a white guy, a privileged white guy, sitting there accusing someone else for not being black enough.
Now you talk about a guy who would be a post-racial president, Herman Cain is it. Now everybody said Barack Obama gonna be a post-racial president, gonna be a whole new dawn, the era of racism is over and racial tension is far worse under Barack Obama than it was before.
The only chance that it will get better is you have somebody like Herman Cain in the White House.
There are two levels of hypocrisy here. The first is that Fischer himself has accused Obama of not being black enough. Here’s the video:
The second level, of course, is that Fischer himself is a racist. Just look at what he said about those savage American Indians:
It’s arresting to think of how different the history of the American settlement and expansion could have been if the other indigenous peoples had followed Pocahontas’s example. She not only recognized the superiority of the God whom the colonists worshipped over the gods of her native people, she recognized the superiority (not the perfection) of their culture and adopted its patterns and language as her own.
In other words, she both converted and assimilated. She became both a Christian and an American (technically, of course, an Englishman). She melded into European and Christian civilization and made her identity as a Christian and an Englishman her primary identity. She was the first manifestation of what became our national slogan, “E Pluribus Unum,” “Out of many, one.”
Had the other indigenous people followed her example, their assimilation into what became America could have been seamless and bloodless. Sadly, it was not to be.
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fastlane
October 14, 2011 at 12:33 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
I think the way you’re using it here, ‘assimilation’ comes across as extremely arrogant and ethnocentric. I guess the point is that if the american indians (of whom I have ancestors not that far back) had recognized the superior technological advantages of the settlers, and somehow managed to acquire immunity to smallpox, and adopted the settlers’ way of life and not tried to hold on to many of their traditions, and let the settlers’ take most of their land anyway, things would have possibly been different.
But that’s a lot of contingencies for very little (IMO) reward. I doubt they would be much better off than other minorities of the time. It’s not like the US government hasn’t continued to treat them as obstacles for the last couple hundred years, regularly breaking treaties and lying about various compensation that they rightly owe the native nations.
pabloo
October 14, 2011 at 12:48 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
fastlane -
That’s a quote from Fischer. It’s not Ed saying it.
freemage
October 14, 2011 at 12:50 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
How do you say the words, “She became… an Englishman,” and not have your brain explode from the blatant inadequacy of your language?
Or does Fischer think that Pocahantas was the first FtM?
Area Man
October 14, 2011 at 1:03 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
I haven’t seen the video either (probably won’t waste the time), but I found this take posted on Andrew Sullivan’s blog to be very enlightening. At least about Cain and how he’s viewed by the black community, if not about O’Donnell.
fifthdentist
October 14, 2011 at 1:28 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
Ask the Cherokees how that whole assimilation deal worked out for them …
Having a grandfather who was 1/2 Cherokee, I totally feel a burning desire to tee off on Fischer’s nuts like one of those soccer-style place kickers attempting a 60-yard field goal.
d cwilson
October 14, 2011 at 1:31 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
Yeah, and the reason why Obama hasn’t exactly been the “post racial president” has nothing to do with all those teabagger signs portraying him as a witch doctor or those HI-LAR-ious emails showing the Obamas dressed as a pimp and prostitute that GOPers love to circulate among themselves, right, Fischer?
zyxek
October 14, 2011 at 1:40 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
I agree that Fischer was in no position to criticize the interview, but it was abysmal. Instead of spending time trying to enlighten his viewers about Cain’s very awful policy ideas, O’Donnell spent the first part of the interview trying to shame him for not being active in the civil rights movement, before moving on to how Cain is just not patriotic enough. It was sad to watch.
Nemo
October 14, 2011 at 2:33 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
Need to blockquote the second Fischer quote… maybe you should follow PZ and apply Comic Sans as well.
John Pieret
October 14, 2011 at 2:35 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
our national slogan, “E Pluribus Unum,” “Out of many, one.”
Wait a minute! Didn’t the wingnutistas have a fit when Obama said that E Pluribus Unum was our national motto instead of “In God We Trust”?
Francisco Bacopa
October 14, 2011 at 9:24 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
I would make an even bet Hermann Cain has Irish heritage too. A lot of the Irish in the South, who sometimes had it worse even than slaves, mixed freely with free black communities. While much or most of the white blood in the African-American communities is the result of of non-consensual or Stockholm-ish pseudo-consensual relationships, mitochondrial DNA evidence suggest there were plenty of white indentured women seeking out high status freedmen as partners. Benjamin Bannaker, was the child of such a relationship. But of course to find such relationships you mostly have to go back to the 1700s when racial boundaries were more fluid and many thought that slavery would dwindle out of existence on its own. The industrial plantation system and stricter laws came later.
dogmeat
October 14, 2011 at 10:41 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
Fifth dentist,
That whole “adopt the superior culture” routine didn’t go all that well for my Oneida ancestors either.
dingojack
October 14, 2011 at 10:41 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
Imagine what America could have been, if only the white population had assimilated with the Amerindians…
(or is that too head ‘sploding for the KingFisch?)
:) Dingo
marymallone
October 15, 2011 at 1:49 am (UTC -4) Link to this comment
On the bright side, Fischer’s acknowledged the existence of white privilege, or he’s at least willing to pretend that he cares about it. Baby steps. Okay, he’s still racist, sexist, and homophobic to the extent that he’s nearly a caricature of bigotry, but he at least acknowledged the historical context of racism that has perpetuated structural inequality and attached meaning to skin colour. Or, he was at least willing to pretend.
“So, you’re happy that Fischer is only feigning concern regarding white privilege and a continuing set of processes that reconstruct and perpetuate inequality? You’re actually happy that he is merely willing to pretend to care about inequality and think it’s a bad thing, even though he won’t do anything about it?” Well, yes, it’s Fischer, I don’t expect much more; maybe by acknowledging privilege he will inadvertently introduce some people to…oh, what theoretical paradigm does white privilege fall under? I want to say intersectionality, but I forget [I learned about it in a gender politics class]. Okay, so listeners aren’t going to think, “White privilege, why don’t I start reading Hooks?” But still, like I said, baby steps.
Freeman
October 15, 2011 at 8:18 am (UTC -4) Link to this comment
Couldn’t find an email Ed link, so this seemed the most appropriate place to put this.
Bryan Fischer has just out-crazy’d himself in an article blaming “concessions to Sharia law over against the moral code of the Judeo-Christian tradition” for our good upstanding early American Christians “tolerat[ing] the slave trade”.
Here’s his howler of a conclusion: Bottom line: If the Scriptures had been followed instead of Sharia law, there would have been no slavery in America, no Civil War, and no racial unrest. Let’s stop Sharia in its tracks everywhere before we make another disastrous concession to this dark and dangerous religion.
What an evil little man! Hrafnkell Haraldsson offers a well-referenced rebuttal.
DaveL
October 15, 2011 at 9:53 am (UTC -4) Link to this comment
Is is just me, or does Fischer’s understanding of E Pluribus Unum sound more like the motto from Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome: “Two Men Enter, One Man Leaves”?
Maybe he should change it to E Pluribus Me?
peterhappe
October 15, 2011 at 1:06 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
Nobody is flooding and “integrating” black nations and ONLY black nations with non-blacks and calling native blacks evil racists for opposing their replacement. This is happening in white nations and ONLY in white nations. They say they are antiracist. What they are is antiwhite. Antiracist is a code word for antiwhite.
Nibi
October 15, 2011 at 7:19 pm (UTC -4) Link to this comment
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marymallone
October 16, 2011 at 12:04 am (UTC -4) Link to this comment
peterhappe, could you please explain the point you are trying to make? I seem to be missing it.
frankdenee
October 16, 2011 at 8:50 am (UTC -4) Link to this comment
I agree with peterhappe.It`s obvious the so-called “anti-racists” want to end the “racism” problem by eliminating the white “problem” via the imposition of mass immigration and “assimilation” on every white country and ONLY white countries.
These so-called “anti-racists” refuse to acknowledge that according to the international genocide law,genocide is genocide,whether accomplished by bullets,mustard gas,or mass immigration and social engineering.
Article II: In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group
Anti-racist IS a code word for anti-white.
dingojack
October 16, 2011 at 9:28 am (UTC -4) Link to this comment
My dear Frankie -
“It`s obvious the so-called “anti-racists” want to end the “racism” problem by eliminating the white “problem” via the imposition of mass immigration and “assimilation” on every white country and ONLY white countries.”
And because it’s just so obvious you can provide a plethora of evidence to proof this point, right? So let’s see it.
“These so-called “anti-racists” refuse to acknowledge that according to the international genocide law,genocide is genocide,whether accomplished by bullets,mustard gas,or mass immigration and social engineering.”
Well yes it would be – if you could actually show this is occuring delibrately (or at all). Got any evidence of that?
Dingo
Nibi
October 16, 2011 at 9:36 am (UTC -4) Link to this comment
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Ed Brayton
October 16, 2011 at 9:37 am (UTC -4) Link to this comment
Our racist asshole trolls provided me with a good laugh this morning. As a bona fide white guy, I don’t exactly sit around and make myself frantic worrying that immigration is “genocide” and that we white folk are being replaced. That is a monumentally stupid argument.
marymallone
October 17, 2011 at 12:46 am (UTC -4) Link to this comment
I hope frankdenee is being magnificently sarcastic. If not, I don’t know what to say – a frank “wtf” is juvenile, but it will have to suffice. Immigration of non-whites to previously white countries is a form of genocide against white people? Where are the white people being displaced to? Is there some massive international secret society, of which I am unaware, that organizes these mass migrations of non-white people into other countries so that they can “invade” them? I wonder if this secret society also causes the unfortunate circumstances that cause people to migrate from – or escape – a country, and if this organization is the same one that sneaked the Mau Mau-supporting Indonesian-Muslim-communist-fascist Obama into office.