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Aug 17 2011

Staver, Barber Like Locking Up Gays

Mat Staver and Matthew Barber of the badly misnamed Liberty Counsel are furious at the Obama administration for withholding $350 million in foreign aid to Malawi as leverage over that nation’s attempts to pass laws criminalizing homosexuality. On their radio show they railed against this horrible immorality:

Barber: What we need is to return to your moral grounding and moral roots in this nation. Until we do that, the moral and the economic are definitely combined and our nation is going to continue to sink, we’re going to continue to lose our status in the world as the world leader. And frankly, when we are holding out nations hostage to a radical, sexually-immoral agenda, I don’t know that we necessarily are in a position – at least the government as its stands right now under this administration – are in a position to claim to be the world’s moral leaders.


So apparently, the only way to be moral is to throw gay people in prison or put them to death. To not put gay people in jail is to surrender to a “radical, sexually-immoral agenda.”

Staver: We’re not the world’s moral leader under this administration; we’re one of the world’s immoral leaders … What the administration is doing is just putting its own immoral views into its funding, trying to get other nations to come around and do the same thing. And they’re literally trying to create and extend this immorality globally.

Barber: The Obama administration is saying that sexual perversion is a human right.

Staver: More than sixty countries have laws criminalizing homosexuality and virtually every country in the world has laws that criminalize pedophilia and child incest. Malawi was doing what it was doing in its own best interest and America should not be trying to make that country act in an immoral way.

Of course, most of those countries that have laws criminalizing homosexuality are Muslim countries imposing Sharia law. Isn’t it funny that the same people who rail against the mythical imposition of Sharia law in the United States are all for Sharia law when it comes to gays and lesbians?

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    Chiroptera

    More than sixty countries have laws criminalizing homosexuality…

    And how many of these countries are the type of industrialized democracies with whom we’d like to be associated?

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    …and virtually every country in the world has laws that criminalize pedophilia and child incest.

    There ought to be a Godwin-like law for bringing up incest and pedophilia in a discussion about gay rights.

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    Grammar Merchant

    If the $350 million dollars in aid were going to a country with a secular government and no sex-crime laws, you can bet these wingnuts would be crying about our tax dollars being wasted to prop up inferior nations.

  3. 3
    Fifth Dentist

    “To not put gay people in jail is to surrender to a ‘radical, sexually-immoral agenda.’”

    In Georgia, if you’re caught for sodomy they’re going to put you in a cell with another man who’s going to sodomize you. That’s Southern logic.” — Robin Williams

  4. 4
    Gregory Weagle

    —There ought to be a Godwin-like law for bringing up incest and pedophilia in a discussion about gay rights.—

    Rentboy’s Law?

  5. 5
    dingojack

    Aren’t these the same kind of folks that got all enthused about bringing democracy, freedom and other ‘Ameriacn values’ to the countries of South-East Asia and the Communist East in years past?
    It was perfectly OK to export ‘American values’ (whatever they were supposed to be) to other countries then, but when it comes to extending the freedoms ordinary Americans demand for themselves to a minority of people we don’t understand (or perhaps fear a little), NOT OK! Especially when the country we want to ecourage these freedoms to take root in are populated by foreigners (who, maybe, are little browner than us).
    Dingo

  6. 6
    MikeMa

    Where is GOProud when Staver & Barber spout this crap? Do they think the hate bus won’t be stopping for them if these asswipes get power?

  7. 7
    Michael Heath

    Ed states:

    Isn’t it funny that the same people who rail against the mythical imposition of Sharia law in the United States are all for Sharia law when it comes to gays and lesbians?

    And entirely predictable (and predicted, e.g., Karen Armstrong).

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    Bryan with a Why

    I’m probably completely making this up, but aren’t there studies out there that, when the general public is asked where to cut the budget, the number one item is foreign aid (making up something like 1% of the budget)? Well, here’s to Obama for listening to the public!

  9. 9
    democommie

    Man, Staver and Barber do seem just a tad OBSESSED with teh GAY bondage thing.

  10. 10
    Fifth Dentist

    @ democommie

    “Now, my good wife. Whilst I rest, read to me a while from Shakespeare’s ‘Gay Boys in Bondage.’”

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    ajb47

    Barber: “And frankly, when we are holding out nations hostage to a radical, sexually-immoral agenda,…”

    On top of the bigotry, how are we holding anyone hostage? They (Malawi) are free to do what they want, just as we are free not to spend money to help a country with laws that promote hatred if we so choose.

    AJ

  12. 12
    MikeMa

    @Fifth Dentist:

    Now, my good wife. Whilst I rest, read to me a while from Shakespeare’s ‘Gay Boys in Bondage.’

    Where can I get the illustrated version?

  13. 13
    Chiroptera

    …when we are holding out nations hostage to a radical, sexually-immoral agenda….

    Wow. Treating people decently is radical and immoral. Whodathunk?

  14. 14
    Aquaria

    Until we do that, the moral and the economic are definitely combined

    Really? If moral and economic are combined, then would you guys explain why the two biggest booms in recent memory happened in the go-go 60s–and when womanizer Bill Clinton was President?

    The rest can be written off as screeching nelly hysteria, and zOMG a N—er is President!

  15. 15
    Area Man

    We need to reinstate the aid to Malawi so that right-wingers can go back to opposing it on the grounds that it’s wasting our tax dollars on lazy, backwards savages.

  16. 16
    WoolOnWire

    @ Filth Fifth Dentist:

    “and WHAT a difference”

  17. 17
    WoolOnWire

    Besides, isn’t there a fairly elaborate late MP sketch about naughty dentists?

    “Denning, Denning, Denning of the BDA”

    Sorry if OT: Olde English Geezers who are straight but not narrow chant:

    “Homophobes, Homophobes, Out Out Out.”

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    daniel rotter

    Staver: “More than sixty countries have laws criminalizing homosexuality and virtually every country in the world has laws that criminalize pedophilia and child incest.”

    The administration is only holding out aid to Malawi for the first thing Staver mentioned here, so I don’t understand what the “pedophilia” and “child incest” mentions have to do with anything.

  19. 19
    Rick R

    Daniel, the Nutter Right™ NEVER passes up an opportunity to conflate all those things.

  20. 20
    Erp

    I should point that Malawi (and Uganda which also has stricter laws against gays and lesbians and their supporters being proposed) are overwhelmingly Christian (over 80% in both countries) so they are just supporting good fellow Christians. (To be fair a few Christians in those countries or at least in Uganda are opposed to the proposed laws.) The accusation of being gay or pro-gay is often used as a slur against political or religious opponents in those countries.

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    daniel rotter

    I thought that conservatives don’t like foreign aid, anyway, so I don’t really know why Barber and Staver are whining about this.

  22. 22
    Phillip IV

    Staver: More than sixty countries have laws criminalizing homosexuality and virtually every country in the world has laws that criminalize pedophilia and child incest.

    More than 40 countries have laws criminalizing preaching Christianity and virtually every community in the world has laws that criminalize theft and arson. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.

    Isn’t it funny that the same people who rail against the mythical imposition of Sharia law in the United States are all for Sharia law when it comes to gays and lesbians?

    Funny? No, not really. Despicable? Now we’re talking.

  23. 23
    Fifth Dentist

    “More than 40 countries have laws criminalizing preaching Christianity and virtually every community in the world has laws that criminalize theft and arson. Coincidence? I THINK NOT.”

    I’m so going to use that.

  24. 24
    sandy

    This stuff is so funny! Something else that’s related to this sketch is this video I saw on YouTube. In the video, a stereotypical gay guy goes on a blind date. You gotta see it! http://youtu.be/NBFlc-RP9M0

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