Dec 16 2013

That’s not how it happened

Amazingly enough, it appears that Gopal wrote that article in complete ignorance of the December 10 protest that got major media coverage and thus the attention of politicians who then firmly rejected gender segregation.

demo            Priyamvada Gopal @PriyamvadaGopal

@dandelionscrews @CEMB_forum @NickCohen4

I have no idea why they are banging on about some demo when I was talking about SR campaign

Ophelia Benson @OpheliaBenson 

“some demo”? Are you serious? you wrote that article w/o even knowing about the demo?

That sheds a somewhat new light on the article, but not in a good way. Apparently she simply had no idea what she was talking about, and made a complete dog’s breakfast as a result. Let’s look at a little bit of it again, now that we know she was unaware of the December 10 protest.

For us, it is especially difficult to practise a commitment to gender equality and social change in a context so heavily shaped by an intolerant Western ‘liberalism’ passing itself off as ‘secular’, ‘enlightened’ and more knowing-than-thou.

I want to raise this because of the deft way in which Student Rights, an offshoot of the bullishly paternalist Euro-American think tank, the Henry Jackson Society, has managed to bring ‘gender segregation’ at some campus events to national attention despite evidence that events in which the audience is so segregated are not numerous.

See? The link in “to national attention” is to channel 4′s story on the protest – it even says that in the url. Yet Gopal apparently somehow managed to miss it, and didn’t watch the channel 4 story. That’s unfortunate for her, because the Henry Jackson Society and Student Rights had nothing to do with the protest. The protest was organized by LSESU ASH and Maryam Namazie.

So the major premise of Gopal’s article is flat wrong, and thus the juddering incoherence of the whole thing is explained.

Nick and LSESU ASH were both asking for an apology from Gopal, on Twitter. She accused Nick of “white boy muscular liberalism” by way of reply. Hmm.



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    Nathaniel Frein

    So instead of othering Maryam Namazie (and others) she simply didn’t care enough to know they existed.

    I’m not sure which is worse.

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    Thanks for that Ophelia. Agreed – either she has no idea what she is talking about, or she is simply maliciously omitting a couple of facts.

  3. 3

    I’m now a honourary white boy I guess.

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    Ophelia Benson

    I look forward to her apology to you, LSESUASH!

  5. 5
    Dave Ricks

    A good thread to note:
    Maryam Namazie’s power level is over 9000!


  6. 6

    Was there anything like a Student Rights’ “campaign”? I thought all they did was draw attention to the segregation piece in the guidance notes and then other people took it up. I can’t remember when I first noticed it but it was probably via yourself, OB. When did it first come to your attention?

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    And let’s not forget that the ‘white boy muscular liberalism’ jibe came after she called Nick crude and bigoted!

    She needs to grasp that the defensive wriggling and squirming is just making thing worse, apologise and move on.

  8. 8

    Posted this on the wrong thread – the link to the Channel 4 page from “national attention” looks like it’s been removed from the original article.

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    Ophelia Benson

    Oh yes? Interesting. I wonder if she’s bothered to do any apologizing yet.

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    UnknownEric the Apostate

    Maryam Namazie’s power level is over 9000!

    /crushes glasses

    Sorry, I love nerd memes. :)

  11. 11
    Ophelia Benson

    Huh. I went to Twitter to see if Gopal had apologized for getting her fact completely wrong, and ten minutes in some guy calls me a cunt.

  12. 12
    Bernard Hurley

    You know, Ophelia, that sort of behaviour makes me despair.

  13. 13
    Ophelia Benson

    You and me both, Bernard.

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    […] Ophelia in particular, have charged her with ineptitude for not knowing about a demonstration ‘that got major media […]

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    […] Rosie mentioned in a comment, the telltale link in Gopal’s article that I pointed out yesterday has been silently removed. I call that sneaky. It’s sneaky to correct a mistake silently […]

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