Archive for June, 2012

We get email: The difference between being unreliable and 100% wrong

Last week, Matt and Tracie got in a brief argument with a caller named Charles before hanging up on him.  Charles has continued to email us, and although Matt has decided that he’s a fake, I usually feel that genuine stupidity is the less extraordinary claim.  Anyway, I’m going to excerpt selected parts of this exchange, because it illustrates a couple of principles. First, there is this perenially weird argument that if any one thing is found to be true in the Bible, then the whole thing must be true.  As I mentioned on the latest Non-Prophets, it’s as if fundamentalists live in this sharply divided world like the logic puzzles of Raymond Smullyan.  Everyone in the world is either a knight, who always tells the truth, or a knave, who always lies.  In Smullyan’s puzzles, proving that a person has made one true statement is enough to conclusively prove that everything that person has ever said or will say is also true. In the real world… not so much. Second: People who are bad at arguing commonly use a tactic known as “Quick!  Change the subject!”  NEVER allow the argument to continue if they’re dodging the point. Charles says: U discredit the bible you say you don’t care what the bible says. Then u validate it saying there are facts in the bible but then say there’s also false things in the bible (which is an unsupported assertion). That sir is a contradiction. Matt: No, it’s not a contradiction. It’s true. There are true things in the Bible (like Herod and Jerusalem). There are false things in the Bible (like the cure for leprosy, the global flood, the genesis story, the exodus). Imagine that I wrote you a letter and the letter read: “Dear Charles, The sky is blue. The Earth is a rough spheroid that orbits the sun, which is a star. Mars is the biggest planet in our solar system. You should eat more vegetables. I am the supreme ruler of the universe.” ...
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Trololololol

Hey! Want to piss off some homophobic fundie bigots? Of course you do! So recently, a dearly beloved snack food came out in support of marriage equality. And there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth among people whose lives are filled with anger and fear, that they would never again be able to enjoy their favorite cookie. Truly, my heart bled. Did yours? I bet it did, you softie, you. And now, a group of folks called Minnesota for Marriage, which is a curious thing for a group trying to prevent certain people from being allowed to marry to call themselves, are declaring war (which, I guess, is what you do when you’re all about love) against General Mills. Because General Mills supports love and equality and marriage for everyone, you see, and that is an evil Satanic homodevil thing to do. And MFM’s Andy Parrish, who wants all his loyal prayer warriors to know he can be reached at [email protected], will have none of it. Well, my my. For sure, General Mills definitely needs someone at their backs. So why not? After all, who doesn’t enjoy Count Chocula? (Okay, don’t answer that. But, good grief, Trix! Whose childhood wasn’t positively influenced by the Trix rabbit!) So here are some fun ideas. You can send old Andy a note letting him know that you appreciate the information that General Mills have come out against the kind of bigotry by which Andy has chosen to define his life, and that you will certainly support their products in any way you can. Better yet, if you’re a gay couple, what fun could be had by sending Andy a photo of yourselves, posing with your favorite General Mills cereal. One of you could be feeding the other a spoonful of Cheerios in a sultry way. Or if you really wanted to make Andy’s head asplode, one of you could be licking flakes of Total off the other’s body with the note “You bet I’m getting 100%!” Trolling. It is such an art! Looking forward to...
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We get email: From the “just helping out” file

Yes, I know, you do wonder if some of these are fake. But you know how the internet is. It takes all kinds. Anyway, it’s good to have someone handling the tough research. hi fellow atheists I have discovered why the Jews were persecuted and still are over time , Its because the tenants of aten ism were passed on to them from akhenaten or someone close to him. The catholic church is practising atenism Christianity is atenism. Wikipedia states that aten translates as the disk. Soho calls the suns corona the disk of the sun so it’s the aten and for very good reason. I have throughorly researched this and I am highly intelligent as my uncle was a detective in charge of detectives that were set up to deal with juivinile crime in north Brisbane Australia and he was very successful. Please take me seriously. I have written a book and reserve all rights but this is not about the book as I will get it published in good time and and I reserve the rights to the content. Google The Lost Connection. I have to go to work now. Don’t work too hard!

Open Thread on TAE 767/NPR 11.7

Lots of theist callers on the TV show yesterday.  Matt was in “a mood.” This Non-Prophets and the previous one have been done as Google Hangout videos. We intend that they’ll find their way to the podcast as audio eventually, but for now you might want to subscribe to Matt’s YouTube feed if you’re keeping an eye out for new shows. We’ve been scheduling them for Thursday Tuesday nights, since we don’t all have to be physically together. Keep an eye on the Non-Prophets chat room and the Atheist Experience Facebook page this Thursday to catch advance warning of how to watch the stream when it’s live.

Vatican ditches God, gets propaganda help instead

It seems that the Vatican is having a little trouble containing damaging internal information leaked by Ratzinger’s very own butler, who remains under arrest in the little nation of Pedophilistan.  Apparently, nobody is believing they’re not a corrupt organization.  Imagine that! In the crisis, what does the Vatican do?  Get their all-powerful god to come to their rescue?  Don’t be silly.  Everyone knows that will never happen.  They double down and hire someone who really knows how to solve the problem:  a propagandist from one of the world’s greatest propaganda empires: Fox News.  Fox News is now famous for their distortions and misinforming their viewers.  That’s just what the Vatican needs: more lies, better lies.  Lies that someone might actually believe. Good luck with that, Vatican.  You’ll need it.