Feb 20 2012

Open thread on TAE 749 / NPR 11.3

This weekend…

  • Russell and long time crew member / first time co-host Josh Burkhart take calls, and talk about slavery a lot, on The Atheist Experience.
  • Russell and Lynnea spend time talking with Guy P. Harrison about his new book, 50 Popular Beliefs That People Think Are True, on The Non-Prophets.


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  1. 1
    John Kruger

    I have not heard the prophecies thing in a while. I always like to ask if there are some prophecies that have not happened yet I can look forward to. Somehow there never are, they always seem to need to be retro-fitted to work. So tricky to actually test these things, imagine that.

    Not what I would call “irrefutable”. Too bad time ran out before a proper take-down could be executed. The biblical morality counters were excellent, the practice shows.

    1. 1.1

      It kind of burned me that that crank was allowed to get away with saying his evidence was “irrefutable” as well.

    2. 1.2
      Foxy Freedom

      the book on the facebook page danger of christianity to democracy freedom and science mention both slavery and last week’s theme about the failure of the second coming (see link)

      1. Foxy Freedom

        Forgot to say the book is a free ebook promoted by rock band Foxy Freedom

        chapters include

        who was the historical Jesus?
        where did the christian god come from?
        where did the god delusion come from?
        why is christianity dangerous to democracy freedom and science?

        it mentions this week’s topic of slavery, and last week’s topic of the failure of the second coming. There is also mention of the attitude to women in the NT.

  2. 2

    I liked Josh a lot in this episode. I wouldn’t mind if he’d be on more often.
    Not that you hadn’t been great, as always.

    1. 2.1

      Isn’t this how Matt got on the show as well, Jeff being late getting there? What do you think future president of the ACA? :P

      1. Muriel

        Well, I certainly think Matt’s a little overrated, but then again, anyone getting his kind of praise would be, so I’ll let him keep the presidency for now, as long as Josh can come out to play once in a while.

  3. 3
    Jasper of Maine

    “aqua pie” was pretty much an instant meme in the chatroom.

    1. 3.1
      Russell Glasser

      When did that get said?

    2. 3.2
      Jasper of Maine

      I’d have to listen through again. It was something Josh said (instead of “occupy”).

  4. 4

    The npr link hates me :(

    1. 4.1
      Russell Glasser

      You can also get it if you’re subscribed to the podcast.

      1. michaeld

        Yeah I’ll probably install itunes then uninstall it once the podcast is done. Consider it a compliment that I’ll go through that for your podcast :P

        1. Russell Glasser

          There are other, more lightweight programs that can download podcasts. I used to use WinAmp for Windows, but now my Android is the only podcast receiver I ever use, so I use the paid version of BeyondPod.

          1. michaeld

            I used to use winamp but when I changed computers it started giving me troubles. I slowly stopped using it and just went back to getting them off the sites themselves. Might try getting it working again, I’m just going with Itunes cause I’m fairly sure it’ll work (which it is just started listening). Anyway thanks for the advice :)

      2. Jasper of Maine

        This file in particular may be corrupt (the NPR link). I usually listen through Chrome (that has a built in mp3 player), but it’s not liking this one.

        I’m subscribed through iTunes too, so it’s not a big deal.

        1. mond

          The file is not corrupt.
          Chrome won’t play the link directly but you can download the file by right clicking and “save link as..’ then playing it back in your media player of choice once downloaded.

          I downloaded it direct to my android device from the link also.

          1. Russell Glasser

            I saw the same problem in Chrome, but after a few minutes the file downloads fully and then starts playing. Could the problem be with the size of the file? I can’t think what else it might be.

  5. 5

    Why didn’t god make wool non-shrink?

    1. 5.1

      For he so loved his children that he foresaw great sight gags after the coming of “Tele Vision” and “Washing Machines”

  6. 6
    CompulsoryAccount7746, Sky Captain

    At least “pure wool is morally important, ending slavery isn’t” wasn’t defended as being divine blue and orange morality* that must be obeyed in spite of conscience because humans are immoral monsters who wouldn’t know how to be compliant good without the bible.
    * TvTropes warning

    1. 6.1
      Russell Glasser

      Oh boy, any day that you can work a wacky TV tropes reference into the latest show is a good day.

    2. 6.2

      Blue vs. Orange: you mean like Lowes vs. Hope Depot? I might be working for the wrong company!

      1. Charlesinsandiego

        . . . Jeez, I meant “Home” Depot, sorry. Need moar coffee.

    3. 6.3
      TerranRich, Yet Another Atheist

      Thanks to you, I just spent the last 2 hours on TV Tropes! Damn you, cursed abyss of knowledge!

  7. 7

    Well of course Matthew was written by Matthew that’s why its called Matthew. QED. As much as I liked that guy he needs to read up a bit more. Also I demand that my fellow Ontarians be less prophecy driven….please?

  8. 8
    John Kruger

    In NPR there was a passing reference to a game Lynnea made. Is this available for public consumption? I can see being reluctant to advertise on this kind of forum, but perhaps a link/post on her own blog? A Google search for “10th plague of Egypt” yields too many results for me to try and wade through.

    I suspect I am not the only interested party here.

    1. 8.1
  9. 9

    Hmm, I’m having problems with the latest NPR as well. Everything SEEMS to work fine – no problems loading the podcast or downloading it – but it’s just an hour and a half of silence. I tried it on the NPR website, iTunes, and downloading it, to no avail.

    Bummer. :(

  10. 10

    No recorded episode on ustream? That’s disappointing :-(

    1. 10.1

      It was there last night because I watched it.

      1. happypanda

        You are right, this time they simply didn’t include episode number in the name. Cheers!

  11. 11

    Guy P. Harrison was a great guest!

    I’d love it if the Atheist Experience crew would tape a couple bonus episodes and release them on YouTube. Rather than take phone calls, you could address FAQs and discuss important points from books like “50 Reasons People Give for Believing in a God” or a Dawkins book or Harris book.

    (Your current videos are great, but it would be awesome to point people who are new to atheism to an introductory series.)

    Finally, Guy made a great point about the term “God”.

  12. 12

    I just listened to the latest NPR and I have to say that “took the train to Auschwitz” is too insensitive to not, at the very least, make into Urban Dictionary.

  13. 13

    Still waiting on youtube up-load

  14. 14

    Ugh, that dude with the odious defense of divinely-mandated slavery! “People become more humble and obedient when they’re being beaten as slaves! Obedient to god!” So in other words, this deity is so horrible that it has to cause its chosen people to live in forced servitude and beaten into submission before they’ll obey him. Endless love and boundless compassion this is not…

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