And to think that for a brief moment I was actually inclined to feel sorry for Dan Marvin. After all, he turns up here, offers a host of increasingly absurd and ignorant non-arguments, and is refuted every time. Rather than evaluate his arguments in the light of the refutations he’s gotten, and attempt honest rebuttals, he’s shown himself to be to be a pathological, self-deluded liar, projecting all of his greatest faults on all of us.
He has been answered in the comments by myself, Stephen, Tracie and others with utmost clarity and directness, yet he whines that he has been “misinterpreted, misrepresented, and misquoted,” clearly not comprehending that if we’re literally copying and pasting the words he’s actually written while responding to him, we’re in fact taking utmost care not to do any of those things. He accuses me of “deceitfulness in so called ‘welcoming’ me to discuss only attempt to belittle and degrade me.” In Dan’s world, if you invite him to your home, then you get angry because he pees on the rug, you’ve deceived him. Dan is completely ignoring that…
- he came to us, we never sought him out (his first comment came out of the blue in this thread)
- when I welcomed him here, I also set out a detailed list of bullet points advising him on good vs. bad arguing techniques, and making him aware of certain facts about atheists he should take into consideration before talking to us, all of which he categorically ignored
- the “belittling” he thinks he’s received has been mostly due to the poor quality of the posts he’s made here, all of which have consisted of logical fallacies, misunderstandings of his own precious Scripture, outright lies about science and gratuitous insults, and simple stupidity (as in his consistent failure to comprehend that he’s been asked many times for a good proof of God, only to continue asserting this being’s existence without support)
- that any other belittling and degradation he’s gotten here has been, again, entirely his fault for shoring up his ignorance with unmerited cockiness and arrogance (such as responding to fellow Christian Chris W, who warned him that he was simply sowing more confusion and senselessness, by dismissing Chris as a “false convert”)
In short, Dan has been a complete disgrace. I was going to make this second post a lengthy exegesis on correcting the scientific inaccuracies in his first battery of comments, but I no longer see the point, as anyone here who’s properly educated will know what the right answers are, and Dan is incapable of learning.
So Dan can be summed up as follows. He does not how to debate. He does not understand that his views on the Bible will not be shared by everyone else. He does not accept that anyone else could know more about the Bible and Christianity than he does. He does not know how to listen to others. He does not know how to respond to being welcomed with respectful behavior. He does not know how to distinguish truths from falsehoods. He does not know how to answer direct questions, and does not seem to know even how to understand them when they are asked. He does not comprehend the concept of evidence. He does not know how to accept responsibility for his own words and deeds. He does not know how to lose graciously. He does not know how to tell the truth. He does not know how to behave like an adult.
This is a pretty comprehensive catalog of character failings. The guy is a simple fanatic, his mind locked into a religious ideology so hermetically sealed from critical inquiry that even air doesn’t get in. His behavior up to now has been more than enough to get him banned from any number of other blogs. But we don’t do that here. I’m happy to have him keep turning up, digging himself deeper into the quagmire he has created for himself, and dealing with the responses he gets. But in the interest of honesty, I am going to retract one statement about him that I made previously: he is a troll, or more commonly what’s called a “concern troll”. And the fact that all of the above will merely convince Dan all the more that he’s the one being picked on, belittled, and maligned, when all he’s trying to do is “love” us and look out for us, is just another sad indicator of his disconnection from reality.