FOX Quote-Mines Clinton

The more I read about President Obama’s new deficit reduction plan, the more I like it. It’s not the plan I would want in a ‘perfect world’ but, perfect worlds don’t exist outside of Azeroth, and even there Chinese gold farmers wreck havoc on inflation. I mean have you seen the price of gold these days? It’s enough to make a gnome cry.

FOX, likewise, thinks the plan is not perfect…how imperfect you ask? Just imperfect enough end America and usher in the rise of Stalin-Hitler-Mohammed as grand poobah of America. Faced with having to tell the world how evil Obama’s plan is and lacking any actual evidence by informed sources to do so, they have pulled out the tactic of quote mining with gusto.

Specifically, FOX blatantly twisted the words of President Clinton to say that he was against the “Buffet Rule”, Warren Buffet’s common sense idea that the rich should return to paying their fair share of taxes as the inequality of wealth in America is now on par only with third world nations.

Like always, Media Matters has the play by play.

From Fox and Friends,

BRIAN KILMEADE (co-host): Meanwhile, Bill Clinton was weighing in, because he’s got his Clinton Initiative here in New York. … Bill Clinton, of course, in the middle of the news, and of course it seems like every time the initiative takes place for him, there’s some major news story. He was asked about the Buffet Rule that the president announced on Monday — would it be effective to take billionaires and blame them for what’s going on? Let’s listen to what he had to stay.

CLINTON : Whatever you think about this millionaire surcharge, I don’t really care, because I would pay it, but it won’t affect me because I already pay the minimum income because I live in New York. [...] But, you know, it’s OK with me. I’ll pay more. But it won’t solve the problem.

CARLSON: That’s amazing, actually. I don’t know if that’s gotten enough press. Bill Clinton saying that he doesn’t know if it would solve the problem, and in fact he went on to say that he found President Obama’s approach to the deficit, quote, “a little confusing.” Why hasn’t that gotten more press? I mean, Bill Clinton, a moderate Democrat from Arkansas — he would probably be doing this situation that we find ourselves in right now differently than President Obama. That, I find, very fascinating, and I find it even more fascinating that it hasn’t gotten more press.

KILMEADE: How about this? He says he personally doesn’t think that we should be raising taxes or cutting spending until we get this economy off the ground.

President Clinton said nothing to that effect and if the full quote was played, it would have been readily apparent but, since when has FOX cared about truth over rhetoric.

Yet, in other interviews given that very day, President Clinton went on to reiterate his personal core belief that nothing too radical should be done until we get out of our current economic slump and then express his support for the “Buffet Rule” and President Obama’s decision to delay tax increases until 2013.

From Media Matters:

Moreover, in other interviews Clinton gave at the meeting, Clinton makes it clear that he does support the Buffett Rule, even if it won’t eliminate the deficit all on its own. In an interview with Fortune editor Andy Serwer, Clinton first reiterates that he doesn’t think spending should be cut or taxes raised “until we get growth going,” but he adds that he doesn’t think Obama’s plan does so. Indeed, as The New York Times noted, Obama’s plan does not call for tax increases until 2013. From the Fortune interview:

CLINTON: Let’s make a distinction. Whatever is or is not going to be the law, the proposal the president made is the proposal that would not kick in until the economy has growth well under way. And I don’t think either Republican proposals to cut spending a lot or Democratic proposals to raise taxes, or to do both — I don’t think either — it’s wise to do any of that until we get growth going. I don’t we should do anything. And I don’t believe the president did.

Our Glorious GOP News Network strikes again. Give the article a full read for video and extended excerpts from what FOX reported and what was actually said.

 

 

The Decline of Religion in America According to the Blaze

An article on The Blaze warns of the decline of religion in America. Being a master at propaganda as a peons of usually are at Mr. Beck’s site, the author refers to religiosity as ‘religious health’, implying that it is unhealthy to be non religious, a meme that I love. Why the article does get the general point of the study (conducted by the right) nailed down, it glosses over a few of the more interesting concepts.The two that stuck me as important were:

Aging memberships – The internet generation is much more godless, despite increasing efforts of churches to take advantage of technology.

and

Continuing High Levels of Conflict – Problems in the church and declining membership/revenues

While it is always informative to know how the right thinks about itself for education’s sake, the absolute BEST part about any blaze article are the comments, I have included some of my favorites.

Catholics don’t read the bible apparently

Every modern social concern is addressed in the Holy Bible. Catholics and Socialist attempts to avoid righteous discussions.

CAPS LOCK…UNLEASH THE FURY

learn about CULTURAL MARXISM AND CRITICAL THERORY AND You WILL FIGURE THE LEFT OUT but dont forget THE RIGHT is playing its part 2 WHAT DID WE GET FROM THE VIEATNAM WAR ? CRITICAL: THERORY AND CULTURAL MARXISM PUSHED ONTO THE BIGGEST GENERATION THE BABBY BOOMMERS THAT USA HAS EVER EVER SEEN . THINK ITS A MISTAKE ? I DONT.. ITS MENT TO RIPP A COUNTRY APART FROM INSIDE OUT . TO TURN it Into a COMMUNIST,contry CHECK iT OUT… READ ABOUT IT ,,,,. IT WILL BLOW YOUR MIND .. ITS WHY ALL WHITES ARE CALLED RACIST AND WHY THE CHURCH is falling AND WHY WE ARE GOING TO BE A COMMINIST CONTRY .. ThERE IS MUCH WRITTEN ABOUT THIS BUT NOBODDY EVER READS . ITS A ATTACK ON THE COUNTY FROM THE INSIDE…. THEY NEW WE COULD NEVER BE beat FROM AN OUT SIDE FORCE SO THEY DID IT FROM WITH IN …..CULTURAL MARXISM ..CRITICAL THERORY AND FRANKFURT SCHOOL LAW CHECK IT OUT AND ASK THE CHURCH WHAT THEY THINK …. AND TELL EVERYBODDY AND MAYBE WE WILL GET OUR COUNTRY BACK . DONT FORGET Watch THE VIDIO PLEASE AND THEN READ about it

God loves everyone, except Mexicans

The church my child goes to is dead. Old people except on special occasions. Course it helps if they wouldn’t pander to the unmentionable people…illegal immigrants.

Will the real Christians please stand up…no not you…god hates you.

the so-called mainline protestant denominations, and much of catholic ones (father pfleger) deserve to die.

the real christians will shine brighter and brighter until the full day….

Wat? A Blaze reader’s prospective on atheism

I’ve noticed there are two kinds of Atheists. Atheist #1 Doesn’t believe in any kind of organized religion or deity(s), but yet respects those that do and so never argues about it.

Atheist #2, on the other hand, trashes all religions, (especially Christians) does everything in their power to mask religious phrases/items through either the courts, desecration, intimidation, or outright vandalism, and will try to “convert” others away from faith. (i.e. billboards, advertisements, fliers etc.)

Seems to me that #2 hides behind the term “atheism” in order to mask their own religion.

The Blaze, how I love thee.

The Jungle, yet another book Michele Bachmann has apparently not read

Has your food recently been missing that extra kick? That lil’ bit of old country taste that only occasionally made your brother contract that infection that then killed him. Well, Michele Bachmann wants to bring back that missing ingredient, being rat shit and other contaminates, by eliminating food regulations…

It’s the same bullshit republican justification of the private sector implementing self-regulation, which rarely happens because as Bachmann accurately pointed out, they reduces profits. That being the point of regulation, to force bottom line oriented companies from always acting like irresponsible children. I know most of this rabble rousing by the right is just that, talk, and probably would not be implemented if the right takes the White House in 2012. But it still makes my black heart all the blacker every time I read this stuff. Thankfully we don’t have FOX “news” running 24/7 at this TOC (Like we did in our last) or else the Army would be out another TV.

The Science Guy vs Fox, Round Two

On August 29th Bill Nye made a return appearance on FOX News hot on the heels on “Moon Volcano” affair in which the pundit, Charles Payne, attempted to shun away Global Warming with anecdotal evidence; in this case Hurricane Irene.

Mr. Nye goes on to give a great breakdown on basic science while Mr. Payne attempts to talk around him and toss some dirt towards Al Gore.

David over at VideoCafe has the video hosted and some choice quotes. The video is well worth a viewing if just for the one instance where Mr. Payne admits that the world is warming up. The most minuscule of admissions, but one more than you normally see on that network.

Islamophobia is Stupid

So, Fox news is using the 9/11 Ten Year Anniversary to shamelessly stoke the flames of hatred over the Park 51 Islamic Community Center at the expense of thousands of dead Americans. According to Media Matters, it started on fox news with a link to a Wall Street Journal Article and the headline:

Bloomberg Bans Clergy From 9/11 Ceremony but Ground Zero Mosque OK

Dishonest point number 1, the WSJ article does not mention the Mosque.

Thus churns the perpetual motion machine that is Fox News, soon a regular conservative blogger picked up the story and it ended up on Fox and Friends by the end of the day; discussing the news that they had started in the first place, you know the drill; dishonest point number 2.

But what gets me is the whole concept of Islamophobia, it strikes me as both anti-American and pants-on-head-retarded. First and foremost, it is just good old fashion American bigotry with an equal helping of American historical ignorance. The right loves to blast the newcomers and decry their strange ways yet always seem to forget that America is a melting pot…that isn’t white.

But I don’t think the melting is happening enough for Fox news viewers and it won’t. Let’s face it, if you’re an Arab-American immigrant, you are very likely to hold to your culture and gravitate towards other Arabs. America is a big scary place and you would want to seek groups with a common bond. So we are not going to fully “Americanize” the fresh off the boat immigrants, but that is never how populations integrate into our culture. It takes generations of popular culture, MTV, and pre-marital sex. But I guess it’s not happening fast enough for the right to show our new American brothers and sisters any semblance of kindness.

Let me clearly state this, if you are against the building of a Mosque anywhere on private property in the United States, I declare you to be a coward. You are just a craven who is too terrified of the other side to let the other side even speak. Even when what you fear so much does not exist. I know Muslims; I live, eat, and work with them every day. I even attend Muslim prayer, since a bit of meditation always is nice and “When in Rome.” There is no great plan to take over Christendom just as there is no great Christian plan to convert all Muslims. Sure they may be some individuals that desire that, but internal factions and infighting prevent Muslims and Christians alike from mass jihad / crusades. The simple truth is that people who oppose free expression of religion on private property lack sufficient faith in their beliefs to be able to turn the other cheek.

Clergy was banned from the 9/11 anniversary because it is a government event and members of most faiths and secular alike died in the terrible attacks. So ALL clergy was banned, including Imams. Why should we bring your all loving, all seeing, and all powerful deities to the event? If they existed, they had a hand in 9/11 as much as any terrorist.

If you have a real beef with Violent Extremist Networks, your nearest recruiter is right down the street and I will have room for you in a patrol as soon as you get here. But you won’t because you’re a fucking pussy.

Sean Hannity is a Liar, Ann Coulter is an IDiot, and Other Predictable One Liners

Sean “Earmuffs” Hannity must hate Media Matters, I mean fuck those nerds; sitting at home compiling cold hard facts to refute his emotional assertions. Judging by his behavior, I assume he is at least as narcissistic and egomaniacal as I am and I sure as Hades would be fuming if I was in his shoes.

Today’s lie was asserting that Austin Goolsbee was incorrect in his assessment of American job growth.

AUSTAN GOOLSBEE, FORMER OBAMA ADVISOR: Over the 17 months, wait take the 17 months where we’re actually growing fairly robustly -

HANNITY: Growing? We’re losing 400,000 jobs a month!

GOOLSBEE: Before the events at the beginning of this year –

HANNITY: We’re losing –

GOOLSBEE: We added 2.5 million, we added 2.5 million jobs. When the president [took] office, we’re losing almost 800,000 a month. When we slow that down and turn it around, we add 2.5 million. It has taken longer than we anticipated, there’s no question about that, you’re correct.

Mr. Goolsbee’s sources: The Bureau of Labor Statistics and Department of Labor. Mr. Hannity’s source his gut, a case study of truthiness in practice.

Ann Coulter has picked up the Anti-Science banner of the willfully ignorant +2 and has started ranting about how evolution is clearly a liberal lie. She falls back on old creationist memes, irreducible complexity, quotes Behe, and implies that Evolution is pushed because of the requirement of a ‘liberal creation myth’. While simultaneously recruiting Galileo to her side and asserting Modern science has disproved evolution. When you think about the contempt Coulter must have for humanity, you heart has to ache. Because for her to be right, all biological and medical scientists the world over must be engaged in a Herculean effort of deception. I on the other hand don’t assume that the majority of our fellow humans so morally lacking as to lie constantly, but I don’t watch a lot of Fox. Yet what can you really expect from Coulter; she has a degree in Law, so arguments for arguments sake is her bread and butter; facts need not apply.

PZ has already covered her completely erroneous concept of microbiology, but one should never pass up an opportunity to point out that both these assholes are so smug, they smell their own farts. That and I really don’t think a lack of a creation story would bother me as Atheist, their side is the one that requires creation; I am satisfied in my knowledge that the things I don’t know far exceed what I could possibly hope to comprehend in a million lifetimes yet, I CAN say with some degree of certainty that both of these people are filled to the brim with bullshit.

Glen Beck’s “Planet Course-Altering Event” Draws less than 5,000

After Glen Beck endeared himself to the Israeli public by ranting about popular social demonstrations on housing issues and then promptly lied about ranting about popular social demonstrations on housing issues, after hinting about the possible culmination of biblical prophecy, he only drew a crowd of about 4,700 (source: His spokesman)..which he promptly inflated to 10,000.

Fox news only mentioned the event only once, and that was from a pundit. Has Mr. Beck finally fallen from grace? This event was a tie in to the launch of GBTV, if this christening was any indication, his ship might have already sailed.

Sean Hannity Rewrites History…Again

Last Tuesday Sean Hannity told an abject lie, That the housing crisis was caused by President Barak Obama. Are you fracking kidding me? I don’t know what’s more offensive, memo driven news, or the contempt FOX (in this case) executives must have for their own viewers. I understand the economic collapse was complicated; in fact the legalese in which it was penned was designed to make understanding the whole affair rather hard.

Even now, when I bring up the topics of Credit Default Swaps and Mortgage Backed Securities, I can visibly see the eyes of my fellow shop officers glaze over until it’s their turn to hit back with insipid, easily refutable, talking points.

But for the record, The Economist, first started warning about the bursting mortgage crisis in June…2005. Nearly 4 years before Obama was elected.

According to Bloomberg, housing prices were crashing in July 2007. For those who care, This American Life (an amazing NPR program) in conjunction with Planet Money have put together hours of reporting on what really happened.

So sure thing Mr. Hannity, Obama caused this crisis because the alterative would be that your network will report damn near anything if it raises anti-incumbent sentiment. But we can’t reasonably expect anything better from NewsCorp and its continuing decent into hacking and ethics scandal. It sure wasn’t an honest mistake as several organization have petitioned for a retraction, which I am sure will be printed any day now.

 

P.S. Several of the comments on my old blog pointed out that Clinton passed several laws that set the conditions for the trouble. Which misses my point is that legislation is nasty buisness, just blaming the president (whoever he may be) white washes the effects of lobbies, congress, regulators, and other independant actors.