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If you haven’t already heard, various Christian groups are out in force about the Boy Scouts of America trying to be decent (finally) and recognise homosexuals as members.

Amongst the Pearl Clutchers we have the Baptist Press who write news with a Christian perspective.

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Happy Birthday

Today is Ajmal Kasab’s birthday, for those who don’t know who he is, he is one of the terrorists of the 2008 Mumbai attacks. He is the lone survivor of that infamous event and is currently in jail for his crimes awaiting the death sentence. I don’t believe in the death sentence, particularly in this case it will make him a martyr.

In order to celebrate it, terrorists (because there is no other word for their action) have attacked Mumbai again. This time killing 13 and wounding 81.

It’s a senseless waste of life. It’s bad enough for most people without having to worry about whether they will die next.

It’s a tale of woe. India and Pakistan’s peace talks broke down over this, as Pakistan was slowly forced to admit that Kasab was a Pakistani national. Mounting evidence for Pakistan’s involvement in the support of terrorism began to raise it’s ugly head (particularly considering Osama was found there). India was set to resume talks in a couple of weeks. This will not help that. Terrorism has hurt Pakistan’s position and the value of it’s word.

There is no way to fight this unless we work together. Muslims need to understand that their faith has a problem in that it encourages this sort of behaviour. Everyone needs to work to deal with it. Otherwise it just turns people against them which encourages further attacks and a spiralling atmosphere of distrust and divisiveness. If the occurs then the bad guys have won.

Damn! I should have called myself the Hindunator instead!

The Hindunator – Now with all the guns, and all the pomade!

Curses! Is it too late to call myself the Hindunator instead of Avicenna?



Gideon from the blog House of Gideon has called me out in his post. I shall respond to him in dual (here and there). My posts here will carry images to add some colour to the proceedings. 

In fact, mainline “Christianity” is naught but a derivative of a pagan construct, which most of the unwashed assume is at the head of what they deem as typical Christianity and that the so-called “protestant” denominations, ultimately, owe their allegiance to it. If, in fact, Catholicism was, indeed, the representative entity of Christ’s church on Earth, this would be true. Most of what entails Protestantism, today, comes from Catholicism, particularly where the various sacraments, holidays, and day of worship are concerned. These are modeled after pagan rites and deities which are what the people of ancient Rome worshiped, the Catholic Church being the direct progeny of pagan Rome. All religions, including that of the blogger whom I am critiquing, here, are bastardizations of the first and greatest faith system, the one instituted by God before the fall of man, itself falling victim to various and specious alternate interpretations by Satan and evil men. Only the Bible has faithfully recorded this transference, all other sources inadvertently or have conveniently neglected to mention this in their writings.


Nothing to do with that terrible
movie.

It is certainly a human construct in that all religions are constructed by human beings. I however have no religion to criticise. I am an ex-hindu, an atheist. The website says so too. And hey, I am not the one saying “All the Christians are wrong! I know this through my studies of a single bible and not through my grasp of history”.

All of christianity is based out of the Council of Nicea under Emperor Constantine, which included writings from “roman christians” who were influenced by their prior faiths. All the bibles in the world are based out of the Vulgate which was the first bible. Prior to that there were none. This is recorded history.

There was no “fall”. If there was then we would have died out considering the sheer level of inbreeding required post fall that we would have no genetic diversity what so ever. There is no such thing as perfect DNA since we live in a system of evolution. Even without evolutionary pressure then we would have had the genetic variation of two individuals and probably died out as an entire species. Also there was no flood because that would have actually reduced genetic variation to practically nothing again. These are allegories not fact. You aren’t supposed to take them seriously because that’s bloody stupid. 

In response to the “Hindunator” on his claims of Hinduism being older than Christianity, yes, it is older, given the popular interpretation of Christianity, above. However, the faith I follow… the REALreligion of Christ… is the oldest and first, all others being cheap knock-offs of the grand original! You will always be able to ascertain it’s uniqueness and superiority over all other religions by the fact that the Bible religion is the ONLY faith that promises salvation by works NOT attributable to men! All others emphasize what it is that man must do to expiate himself, to justify himself and please whatever contrived deity is involved. Christianity… the true version, not the self-justifying works of Catholicism and the myriad of eastern religions, demands that God’s (Christ’s) authority, ALONE, be recognized as the only redeeming force available. You will not find any other faith with this specific tenet.


The Hindunator shows of his skills
accompanied by his cylon crew…

How is christianity the oldest religion when it is based out of the teachings of Judaism which is younger than Hinduism? Time travel? And the works doctrine is a far more superior doctrine since it requires you to be good. Your theology specifically indicates that there are serial killers in heaven because they “found jesus” while their non christian victims are not. And this is without me even breaking Godwin’s law.

And you fail to understand Karma and Dharma and other faiths. And man doesn’t need to do anything to please a mythical entity. Show me one empirical, repeatable piece of proof for your god. The bible is not proof of your god as then you have just validated every other book of religious belief since they use the same logic. You are pretty much saying “My way is best because I say so! Aren’t I clever?”. It’s like me writing a book that justifies me as the world’s best dancer and when people say that I am terrible I show them that same book as proof that I am
the world’s greatest dance machine! 

The first written evidence of deviation from God’s original plan of self-LESS expiation, comes from the example in Genesis, where Cain went against God’s established rule of offering flesh (signifying the body of His Son) as the only acceptable sacrifice. This, of course, does not condone or promote cannibalism, as some stupid infidels have asserted, it was meant as a teaching aid meant to reinforce the fact that God, Himself, in the form of His Son, would in future pay the penalty for sin which they could not and still remain alive. Only God had the power to lay down His life and take it up again. This effectively skirted Satan’s accusations that the law couldn’t be kept. You see the fallen angel’s spirit in so many infidels, today. They claim God’s law is foolish and non-existent, yet it is the sole originator of all moral values in our society.

How is rejecting a sacrifice of grain a teaching aid to a convoluted set of plans that aren’t even required that culminates in the death of God’s son to absolve mankind of a non crime? That’s bloody idiotic. In order for me to forgive someone, I just have to do that. I don’t have to kill my only son. That’s the weakest part of christian theology considering your god is supposed to be omnipotent and has to dance through this ritual?


Morality predates religion. There were moral societies before christianity. See it’s actually an evolutionary advantage to be moral. Societies with moral behaviour tended to destroy ones that didn’t have any rules. Don’t murder, steal or lie actually make sense. Societies with basic rules such as that are more cohesive and are able to destroy and defeat groups of individuals who steal from each other and kill each other simply because the society without rules is more divided and easier to defeat as they cannot work together.


We can actually see the beginnings of morality by simply observing children at play as they make rules up to facilitate play. The more inclusive the rules the bigger the game. Eventually those games turned into sport with complex rules so as to encourage fair play and inclusiveness of the game to all. If life and death were in the equation, then these rules would be morality.

From this first deviation; Cain offering vegetable produce in place of the required blood-sacrifice, man has sought to do things on his own terms, eventually negating God from life’s equation through the satanic philosophy of evolution. All of the other religions sprang up around the premise that man could justify himself, offering something of himself to ‘appease’ the wrath of his manufactured deities. Paganism has evolved into a subtler but no less destructive version of self-justification, disguised as ‘science’ that absurdly teaches the same old pagan theory that natural forces are responsible for our origins and sustenance. Now, men worship lower animals as their progenitors, and/or other lower biological processes sustained by God, themselves, having or having formerly possessed some overt intelligence to ‘evolve’ later and more advanced versions of themselves, seemingly not satisfied with having attained a workable level of practicality in existence. The whole construct would be laughable, were it not so destructive.

No. All other religions are due to the extended mistake of assuming that there is an entity out there who control our environment and doing certain rituals allows us to produce favourable controls to our environment. It is a product of human ignorance and a lack of understanding. It is a product of fear. 


Paganism has nothing to do with science, science is a product of understanding the natural processes by which the universe functions and providing human beings with the ability to utilise this understanding to produce achievable human progress. Natural forces are responsible for origins and sustenance. Your entire life is directly dependant on the nuclear fusion of the sun’s hydrogen atoms which powers life on earth via photosynthesis. Without that you would die within days of starvation.


And evolution is fact. In each cell there is a DNA code which is the mechanism of inheritance that has been demonstrated empirically. Alterations to the frequency of variations in the genetic code and mutations and recombinations and expressions of the DNA code in different ways are responsible for our complexity. Not magic. You are an ape. A hominid (Homo Sapiens Sapiens) of the great apes with our distant relatives the orangutan, chimpanzee, bonobo and gorilla. There were other hominids but they all went extinct over time. It’s fact in the same way that gravity is a fact. 

The only way to true happiness and fulfillment is not through endless and successive evolutionary transformations, (or lives, as Hinduism teaches… see the connection between it and evolutionary ‘science’?) it is through God, rather, His Son. Christ, incarnate, was and is the God of the Old Testament, it was He Who wrote the law on Mt, Sinai and gave it to Moses to give the world. It was God, Himself, that offered His life for man. Satan, man’s accuser, has done nothing but lead man astray with his specious teachings and promises of self-fulfilled, so-called enlightenment. Like his promise to Eve, his first dupe, of supplying her with forbidden wisdom; likewise, today, men strive to know the mind of God, failing miserably. Christ and His law, alone, stand firm while the best-laid plans of man come to naught.

Hinduism does not see true happiness in endless lives. It sees it in transcendence from this existence. Evolution doesn’t care about happiness, it cares about survival. It’s actually not that nice. Remember for the lion to live the deer must die, for the deer to live the lion must starve.

And happiness and fulfilment is not through your god. That is false happiness. Happiness is whatever you wish it to be. Fulfilment occurs not when you reach some heaven but when you achieve the small happiness that makes up human existence. You stand on the shoulders of small things achieved.

It’s a tragedy, only christians and fools think that acquisition of knowledge is mankind’s original sin. Without knowledge and wisdom you are no different from a chimpanzee. That is the difference between man and animal. Not divinity. The simple drive to achieve k
nowledge and utilise it to improve ourselves.


Fucking biology! How does it work?

Stands firm? I beg to disagree. I can do most of “christ’s miracles” with my technology. I have raised the dead (CPR), brought sight to the blind (glasses) and cured lepers (Dapsone). The green revolution feeds a billion people on this planet today, and I am talking to you using tame lightning on a device made out of sand, metal and the bodies of million year old monsters. The best laid plans of men are frankly titanic compared to your tiny god. The best laid plans of mice are titanic compared to your god.

Yes, your god is small. In scale and scope. We live on a single planet in a huge universe. And you are worried about some heaven when we wish to touch the stars themselves. There is more wonder in a single cell than in your entire bible. You just don’t realise it because you haven’t opened your mind. The only difference between us and the animals is the one thing you refused to use. Your capacity to accumulate knowledge and apply it. There are greater things on earth than in your philosophy.

The world’s population, for the most part, have rejected Christ and the life He brings. Yet, a small minority will overcome and accept, representative of the power of God’s Spirit in the lives of those willing to crucify darling self, such as He did, 2000 years ago. The infidel lives only for himself and those he deems worthy to be around him. He goes to an Godless grave, the same hopeless scenario that he espouses in his heretical worship of nature through evolutionary teaching. Irony incomprehensible!

I may or may not be dressed like Darth Vader.

Hahah! This is where we see the difference. Willing to crucify yourself? Okay. Prove it. I don’t like people who make grandiose claims. I am an atheist and a skeptic. If you say you are willing to crucify yourself then do so.

I go to a Jedi Funeral, not a grave. And to me the grave is the end of all things. Life is it’s own reward, it’s not a race to be run, it’s a walk to be enjoyed. And we do live for others. I learn to save lives for a living. I give people the gift of time to do as they see fit. Anything from a few seconds for a lover to say goodbye to a full life to someone who may have died. I have more value than anything I could gain from believing in any faith.

No magic belief can match upto the feeling you get when you see what you can do with your own human hands and the effective use of knowledge and human ingenuity is what achieved everything we have today. You are so fascinated with the bible that you haven’t realised how far man has rose.

Dear Minessota

Dear Minessota

I am not a particularly angry atheist. I am just a rather well informed one but surely SURELY you guys have realised that the man giving this invocation is a horrific and backwards individual who is trying to take your nation back to the days when people couldn’t fly!

This man has misrepresented his own nation (Pop Quiz here, the nation that the USA broke away from is the Oldest Nation – The United Kingdom had a constitution before 1776.) And yes while the USA is the second oldest nation on earth, it has more to do with isolationism than anything else. And age has nothing to do with it, the oldest nation a few years ago was the Kingdom of Nepal and that was a backwards kingdom for most of it’s existence, while Sweden is a relatively enlightened socialist nation despite being young.

He shows no grasp of history, remembering Iwo Jima after WW2, and Vietnam as if were a war for freedom. His implication that the USA should return to the original document of the constitution is daft. All constitutions are living documents, only a fundie would believe that old rules must be unchanged and blindly followed. This man has just stated that the civil rights movement and suffrage were “of no consequence” and against the founding father’s vision for the nation.

Probably, but screw them. They were born in the 17th century. They would think we are wizards, and we have grown further than they did. Oh they were remarkable men, Jefferson and Franklin were extremely progressive for the time period, but they were still keeping slaves and treated black people like cattle. America has grown since then, people don’t seem to realise how nice the nation really is instead wishing to go back to a time when people would apply leeches to their skin.

Europe laughs at americans because your politicians seriously think that Gay Marriage is a bigger issue than say… any other issue on the board. You have a problem with crime, a lack of social mobility, a terrible education system failed by the performance related incentive thus punishing inner city schools in a downward spiral. You have high unemployment and job skill dearths that are not covered by local candidates. You have a national problem with drug usage. You have a war. You have no healthcare system worth speaking of and you have a problem with people who cannot tell the difference between a personal faith and freedom of belief. There is an obesity epidemic in kids as well as adults too.

And in this there are politicians seriously worrying about what homosexual adults are upto in the privacy of their own bedrooms? Obviously people need to straighten out the priorities. Literally everything else is more important than stopping gays from getting married because you think it is icky.

Stay Classy Minessota.

Yours sincerely;

Avicenna

Animal Liberation – The forgotten war between science and ignorance

Crazy Death Threats against students


The animal liberation movement ranges across the spectrum of common sense from scientists to laughable ideas of ecology such as the people who outright ban certain kinds of hunting solely because the animal is cute rather than the actual effect of said animal on the environment to the utterly deadly.


For most of us the idea of animal liberation is a rather genteel idea. Save the cute animals. We revel in the childish idea that foxes are adorable and that bunnies are cute despite the reality that foxes kill livestock and bunnies are vermin that eat tonnes of produce and breed at alarming rates. You don’t see the animal lib movement worry about the rabbit and cane toad problem of Australia. 



The sinister side of the movement lies in its extremists. These are people who equate human life of the same value as any other species of animal and justify murder and harassment of individuals. One such individual is Camille Marino. I assume this is a pseudonym, as calling for the attack of specific people with actual plans as laid out here really should trigger various alarm bells. Particularly when any of us could be in their arbitrary firing line.

Let’s not kid ourselves. Animal rights are important, we need to treat animals with respect where appropriate. I am against the usage of animals for testing non pharmaceuticals unless where appropriate (You really need to test insecticides for toxicity unless you want dead humans and a lot more dead animals). If there were a way to test medication without killing anything for the same (or probably cheaper) price then we would do it. However we don’t have another feasible option, and we are researching into alternatives because whoever discovers a viable alternative makes “bank”.

However now we have calls from individuals to target the most exposed aspect of biology and medicine. The students.

The vivisection complex must be dismantled and we will realize this objective only through mass concerted efforts that abandon staid and ineffective traditional tactics (lobbying, educating, debating, etc) to instead pursue abolition by any means necessary and put the vivisection industry and Big Pharma under the knife. Each and every avenue through which we may gain a foothold needs to be explored and pursued if we are to advance our agenda.”


It should be dismantled by providing us an equal or better method for testing. The traditional tactics don’t work because they are baseless. PETA’s arguments range from the idiotic Sea Kittens project to just having no clue how medical experimentation works because quite frankly they have no idea how medication works. We cannot talk to you guys because you are fanatics and kind of dumb. You show incredible lack of understandings in biology and assume we enjoy injuring animals.

The people being targeted are the strongest voices for ecology and protection of species and the ones best equipped to do so. Species like the Californian condor were not saved by burning labs but by biologists using techniques they learnt experimenting on other creatures to raise and release condors.


For the obscene profits of the pharmaceutical industries and the disease management (not “health care”) system, every year in university labs, private research facilities, and military dungeons, millions of animals are being sliced, diced, poisoned, infected, and hideously mutilated without remorse.”

We do have remorse for our testing. We really do love animals and do wish we had to use less for our research, infact we are using less. The problem is you do need to test on an animal because it is a living coalition of systems rather than just a patch of cells. Interaction between the various systems is what we worry about.

The fact is that human society is reliant on the death of animals for our benefit. Just like every other animal is reliant on competitive deaths of other animals. Does the ALF really think that the food they eat has not been grown without the murder of innocent creatures?

And we slice, dice, poison, infect and mutilate animals for a reason. To either educate people about biology without having to do the same to a human being (Sorry kids. Models just do not cut it. I can show you a model liver and 10 real ones and the model will not look the same.). You can see as many models as you want but they only give you a rough idea of what living anatomy is like. Again we test drugs on animals because life is a complex interplay of chemicals and artificial methods simply do not model the interactions between chemicals sufficiently and with adequate safety. 

It seems illogical to think poison has a benefit but you are forgetting that in disease there is an imbalance within the body. A poison causing an opposite effect can produce a homeostatic effect alleviating
a disease. Even the simplest of over the counter medications can produce side effects from toxicity. This is the actual principle of medicine. The alternative medicine work on magic principles and woo. In most cases medication gives us either time to heal or a helping hand. In order to find out exact dosages and calculate effects and indeed develop a drug it needs to be tested on animals.

Every time a vivisector’s car or home — and, eventually, the abuser him/herself — blows up, flames of liberation light up the sky. And now we have a golden opportunity to begin to destroy the foundations upon which Bogus Big Pharma and the academic-industrial complex rest — the vivisection research model can be made unworkable and obsolete. A strategic and streamlined above-ground resistance advanced in coordination with that of our anonymous underground counterparts can yield that elusive point of critical mass at which the infrastructure begins to implode and the grant money stolen from taxpayers begins to dry up — the only remnant of the atrocities being the trail of blood from the cages to the incinerator to the parking lot to the vivisectors’ homes, adorned with windows that can be opened and doors with locks that can be picked.”



And thus we see the call for murder. I make no pretence of liking these arseholes. They are calling for the death of scientists for the purpose of their world view which would result in untold deaths by the halting of the medical process. 


I am willing to talk, but not to terrorists and people calling for murder. I am willing to improve our systems but quite frankly if you are making threats about  how our houses are easy to break into and how we can easily be killed in car bombs… then quite frankly we are done talking and you deserve to be treated like criminals.


“When we attack professors, we can only expect limited gains. They are deeply entrenched in the holocaust, have vested financial interests, and enjoy a network of support and protection. Students, however, have no round-the-clock police protection, no access to the FBI, and no access to legislators. The weakest link in the chain is the student body. Vivisectors-in-training can be shut down with relative ease.


They also are the next generation and it is our responsibility to ensure that they are the last generation. Unless we intercede now, the students of today will be the mutilators of tomorrow. Conversely, there will be no animal torturers tomorrow if we effectively eliminate them today.” 


We students are vulnerable to them. We have to routinely attend university while most of these individuals do not. We are poor and cannot afford security; we are easily abducted and so on… They know this. We know this. However if any student is attacked the backlash will be phenomenal. Does anyone really think that attacking a student will achieve anything but the total destruction of the animal liberation movement as terrorists?

We won’t be the last generation of vivisectionists. All you will do is scare off some of us and make the rest of the world sit up to your nonsense. The entire leadership of most of the animal liberation groups would be suspect even the more liberal ones as many are complicit in protecting such movements as even PETA have made similar statements to yours in the past. 

“We recently met an aspiring vivisector named Alena Rodriguez who exposed, perhaps, the greatest industry vulnerability we’ve yet to isolate — students.”



I feel really sorry for her. Her career in science has been ruined by intimidation and by the use of fear. I am sorry that she was not able to acquire help from the rest of the science community and advice as to what to do when dealing with these individuals. They are genuinely quite determined to ruin lives and when confronted by their tactics, we should bring the full force of the law into play and stand together as a group. This is simply bullying and threats aimed at a person


“By and large, students pursuing careers in research science truly want to help people, not victimize animals. Their indoctrination into the world of laboratory torture is slow, methodical, and deliberate. While they are being groomed, we are obligated to intercede and educate these young scientists with truth. As Alena admitted, “I was naive…I really just did not know about all this stuff.” And she is not unique.”



By intercede and educate they mean threaten and intimidate. Not all of us are so easy to fool with grainy pictures of slaughterhouses. And it’s a case of our society forgetting where food comes from.


Students also need to understand that making the wrong choice will result in a lifetime of grief. Aspiring scientists envision curing cancer at the Mayo Clinic. We need to impart a new vision: car bombs, 24/7 security cameras, embarrassing home demonstrations, threats, injuries, and fear. And, of course, these students need to realize that any personal risk they are willing to assume will also be visited upon
their parents, children, and nearest & dearest loved ones. The time to reconsider is now.”



Not only are we threatened but they also threaten innocent bystanders. Why should we bend to the will of terrorists and bullies? Why should we even negotiate? If you threaten the students, big pharma will simply leave your nations and go test in other countries where there is no oversight. The research will not stop but the local students will suffer. So make a stand now, no one is calling for the torture of animals. Torture exists solely for the sake of torture, there is purpose to animal experimentation and the understanding of that is out of the grasp of the animal right’s movement. 



“Like all young adults, college students are acutely concerned with how they are perceived by their peers. They need to maintain a certain persona if they wish to continue to enjoy the acceptance of their community. This makes them infinitely more susceptible to negative and inflammatory publicity than their veteran-mutilator counterparts. When education fails, smear campaigns can be highly effective. Abusers have forfeited all rights to privacy and peace of mind and, if an abuser-to-be should fail to make the correct choice now, NIO is here to broadcast all of their personal information. Remember, young people document every facet of their personal lives online. In about 30 minutes, we were able to compile an impressive and comprehensive profile for Elena.”



The curse of facebook, oh not only does the average student have to face down interviewers who can Google us and find photos of us at our worst (dressed in drag and attempting to drink a yard of ale possibly) but now we have to deal with the threat of our information being leaked to potential terrorists who will encourage us to be targeted.


“We need to begin to actively identify those enrolled in scientific disciplines and isolate the students preparing for or involved in biological research. We need to get into the universities and speak to classes. This poses a minor, but not insurmountable, obstacle for many activists that have been trespassed, banned, or TROed. We need to team up with other aggressive campaigners who excel at engaging and educating. We need to implement a “good cop, bad cop” approach to keep our targets off balance and maximize our effectiveness.” 



There is no good cop/bad cop here, there is only a collection of insane individuals whose ideology is so bankrupt that they equate the life of a human to that of a rabbit or a mouse under the guise of compassion willing to damn thousands of lives worth of medical research in exchange for a few mice who wouldn’t survive outside of a lab environment. We extend compassion to animals out of compassion. We want our animals to be treated better solely because we can afford to do so because we are so abundant in resources, however if it came to starvation… then most of us would happily eat meat. I have seen people eating maggotty rice soley because the choices are “eat maggots” or “starve”. When the chips are down, humans will do anything to survive. Society exists because we can afford to maintain it at this point.


We experiment on animals because we have no other options. Not experimenting on animals means either releasing untested drugs on people which no one will want causing untold deaths. There are no computer models or in vitro techniques despite what we are told that can match an entire animal for cost as well. This is the best option that we have. And what the animal liberation movement does not understand is that we would rather not have to hurt animals to do research but are left with no choice since there are no other alternatives. I assure you, medicine does work and that the idea that we don’t cure anything is utterly daft. We do cure a lot of diseases, including cancer which seems to be the catchword of choice for incurable diseases (not AIDS? Daft buggers really!)


Camille Marino is nothing but a terrorist or atleast someone who sympathises with them. She/He/It is a douche, possibly the biggest douche in the universe. If there were an award I would nominate her to get it.

We have been threatened by her/him/it with death for the experimentation of animals rather than sensible discourse. Instead of providing us options we have been left with the choice of submit or perish. The threat is to all of us in any biological field. We have all done animal experiments of some sort or the other. We are all in their firing lines. 


I don’t think I will give up, will you?