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Four Reasons against Vaccinations – Debunked

This is my first skeptical article as a doctor. To be fair? Not much has changed except now I can legally call myself doctor.

But what we see here is woo. Woo of the highest order. Allegedly by an NHS worker who is a professional in Public Health Medicine and Epidemiology and Prevention in depth. I doubt this.

In this article I want to share with you our two main reasons why we do not vaccinate our kids and stopped immunising us as well. It seems that not immunising is quite trendy now days, however our decision 4 years ago wasn’t driven by any trend, just by mother’s instinct and common sense.

Except maternal instinct is given a huge amount of value in the realm of quackery. Above hard scientific evidence. And anti-vax is far from common sense.

As a professional in Public Health Medicine I studied epidemiology and prevention in depth. I was taught that immunisation is the best possible way to protect babies and young kids from getting nasty and easily preventable infectious diseases. That time back in 2006, I believed everything our professors and doctors said without even questioning it.

This is rather puzzling. One of Public Health’s greatest triumphs is the extinction of Smallpox and elimination of childhood diseases as threats (until the resurgence of anti-vax) and this was achieved through the usage of vaccines. To deny this is to call into question your status as a professional in Public Health, Epidemiology and Prevention.

That’s like claiming to be a car safety engineer who doesn’t believe in crumple zones and seat belts.

Then when I started working for NHS in London back in 2007 I had a great opportunity to work for Health Protection Unit for a month and one of my tasks was to do a couple of audits focused on infectious diseases’ outbreaks. I won’t bore you with all the details, but basically what I learned and it was a shock for me that time really, that people who were already vaccinated got the disease they were immunised against. I was obviously aware and it is a well known fact that immunisation is not 100% effective, but I was surprised that out of let’s say 100 people who got the disease, 40 of them (40%) were vaccinated against the disease. Then my research about vaccination and its effectiveness and safety has started…That time, I had no idea how harmful the vaccines can be for little people… I think it is important to highlight it here so you understand where I come from.

It’s rather amusing that we seem to be repeating the old “lie” that people who are vaccinated fall prey to diseases more often while people who are not don’t. The fact of the matter is that vaccinated children are healthier. They have equal incidence of atopic diseases and fewer vaccine preventable disease.

My intention in writing this article is not to force or persuade anyone not to immunise! The intention is to SHARE with you why we decided not to immunise anyone in our family anymore. I cannot give you here all the clinical studies and researched articles as it would be a book not an article. But I can certainly give you our main reasons and explanations for our informative decision.

Clearly the books researched are not ones in immunology.

Also just put it straight here! Our kids are too small to understand this topic deeply to decide for themselves so we decided for them not to immunise as they can always change their minds once they think it is necessary for them, but they wouldn’t be able to reverse any damage if we allowed a needle to be injected in their tiny muscles now. I hope you understand that.

Do you make your children eat spinach? Do their chores? Do their homework? Contrary to belief? Letting your children run riot is not good for them. Children are “children”. They don’t know what is good for them and what isn’t. Many of the things that children don’t want to do are necessary. Hell? If I had my way I would stay in bed and watch TV all day but frankly I need to get up and do work. We all have to do things that are unpleasant but beneficial.

Here is the thing? What she’s gambling on is that the herd immunity protects her kids more than the vaccine’s relatively rare damage.

I hope she understands that some “childhood” disease is perfectly capable of dealing irreversible damage. In fact her world view is used to prop up a situation where childhood diseases will deal way more permanent damage.

Anyway, here are our MAIN reasons (as there are too many) why we vaccinate neither our kids nor ourselves.

1. Mother instinct – for some of you it might not be a valid and significant reason however I strongly felt that I just cannot let anyone to inject my little babies who are so fragile and their immunity system has just started developing. I just couldn’t see them to suffer and I felt that this is not a natural way how to boost immunity! I carried my babies in my womb for 9 months each, I avoided most of the chemicals, processed food and alcohol to protect the little creatures inside me. Now, somebody would try to convince me that injecting all the nasty viruses, toxins and chemicals into my babies is right? Why?? Why we protect them before they are born, but when they are actually here we throw all the bad onto them?

Well why don’t we just toss out actual bloody medicine.

This sounds silly but why bother with an actual education if all you need to make grandiose claims about medicine is unprotected sex and a XX chromosomes. Speaking as a mother is quite frankly the most annoying argument you can face because it is the literal claim that being a mother entitles you to the knowledge of a doctor. Except this person is using her experience as a healthcare worker to give credence to her quackery.

It’s simple. Babies are not as fragile as you think. They are born to survive. Their immune system is naive but functional. What terrifies me is the language. This is NOT the language of a trained medic. This is the language of someone who doesn’t understand medicine at all yet chooses to place themselves as an expert.

To claim to be a medical expert in one line then claim that babies are born with an incompetent immune systems is frankly laughable. It’s like claiming that baby horses cannot walk. It is simple incorrect.

Any medic worth their salt is aware of the passive and active immune systems and knows that active immune systems are more powerful than passive.

It’s simple. Your immune  system protects the baby till it is born. After that it does not in the same way. Quite honestly? Alcohol and Cigarettes are the big no no during pregnancy. Processed food and “chemicals” are just fears people have. Quite honestly? The lack of women in skepticism has caused this. There aren’t enough women in skepticism to kick down the silliness that is natural birth. I am often met with incredulous surprise among male readers.

Dr. PZ Myers himself was rather astonished about it. Due to skepticism being very male dominated one of the deadliest forms of quackery affects mainly women and effectively limbos under the radar. One of the major problems is that the anti-vaccination movement is heavily dominated by women and using the language of feminism, quackery is being propped up.

Her claim is simply ignorant of how human immune systems work. Shockingly so. Infants require vaccines to protect them from certain deadly diseases. We need vaccination to often break up the transmission of deadly diseases to these infants. It’s really that simple. If you claim to be a medical worker who doesn’t understand basic immunology then I fear you are a quack.

2. Common sense – Immunisation programmes has started just recently (after Second World War) compared to the period of time Humans occupy this planet without vaccinations. Any of the scientific evidence would encourage us to vaccinate our kids. It is like saying that if we damage our car before we get into an accident would actually protect the car from damaging it even more. It’s like saying that Human race is not perfect enough like other living creatures on this planet so we need some immunity ‘booster’ to awake our ‘sleepy’ immunity. Common sense is telling me, ok, why don’t we have vaccine for every disease? Do you really think this is the solution to keep people healthy? Does this resonate with you? Immunisation is a huge and profitable for pharmaceutical industry! Pharmaceutical industry doesn’t want people and our children to be healthy! If we are all healthy and happy, they would lose their business! I personally believe (obviously, it hasn’t been proven yet) that vaccines may cause infertility as depopulation is on the top of the ‘New World Order’ agenda! But this is another subject. Let’s go back to vaccinations.

Now, as I know most of you may act and make decisions based on the scientific evidence rather than instinctively which is totally fine and I understand as I used to be the ‘right brained’ person as well so I list other reasons which supported our anti-vaccination decision.

This is frankly daft.

Immunisation  began before WW II. Smallpox predated 1900s for the start of immunisation schemes. For the majority of human existence  we were quite happy to lose a tenth or more of our children before the first year of birth. So much  so that many of my patients do not name their babies. They wait till they are sure they are going to make it before gracing them with a name. It shocks me that wealthy, educated and privileged women  in the western world think a world where 1 in 10 babies died before the age of 1 was an acceptable loss.

This throws more doubts on her alleged qualification. I mean everyone knows how vaccines work. An attenuated or pieces of a pathogen are introduced eliciting an immune response without the disease unlike the real pathogen. The active immune system then is capable of producing antibodies against the pathogen. To compare this to “damaging your car on purpose so it won’t be damaged by a crash” is frankly daft. If this is your expert then I am sorry, your experts are terribly wrong.

And again? It ventures into the realm of evolution which I am puzzled by. Comparing us to animals is quite laughable since we are heavily K-Selected and our 9 year old child would do poorly against a lion while a 9 year old deer would leave the lion in the dust. We have a different way of surviving. We care about each lost child. Most animals are quite happy to sacrifice their babies to survive.

Why don’t we have a vaccine against every disease? Because many diseases are rarer and we weren’t able to develop vaccines against them. It wasn’t profitable or that there are issues such as antigen changes.

Immunisation is literally the LEAST profitable industry for the pharmaceutical  industry? Want to work it out? Let’s take the Measles vaccine. (Not MMR which is even cheaper). Two doses are around $15 to 20. Let’s be gracious and take it at $20.

A single bout of measles is at least 2 weeks off school. Do you think that’s worth $20? How about the loss of earnings you face if you take time off work to care for your child. Roughly 70% of children will need to see a doctor. That is more expensive than $20. And roughly 30% will need hospitalisation. Per day you would end up paying doctors and “evil big pharma” more than 5 to 10 times the cost of a vaccine. If the child has an ICU grade measles complication? Then per day you would be racking up bills that would not just pay for your child’s vaccination but a few hundred others. And remember once Measles was universal.

And this is forgetting the death toll. At one point Measles killed 8 million people. The destruction of Native Americans often invokes smallpox, but most people wouldn’t realise that it was Measles that did the most damage. Empires fell due to this harmless childhood disease. Consider AIDS and Malaria kill a million people a year each. Only Small Pox has a higher body count. And this is the harmless disease of the anti-vax. Who simply didn’t realise the important thing. If only 1 in 1000 children died from Measles after getting it and nearly 100% of children got measles… then that’s a lot of dead children. 7 billion people on the planet. That’s around 7 million dead. That’s without all those people who lack our medicine to keep them alive. All those children who are poor who will die because their parents think that little cough and rash is harmless and that they can’t afford to waste money on a simple cough. Until it’s too late.

And last but not least? Let’s give it up for “Depopulation and Conspiracy Theory”. Clearly madam is a paragon of scientific rigour.

3. Vaccines effectiveness – as I already mentioned there are many cases where the vaccine itself caused the disease!

For instance the polio vaccine – According to The Indian Journal of Medical Ethics, the polio vaccine program launched by Bill Gates paralysed 47,500 children in 2011 alone. The Medical Journal of Australia discovered ‘The relation of prophylactic inoculations (polio vaccines) to the outbreak of poliomyelitis (polio)’ as far back as 1951. 

Oh dear. The NPAFP malarky? I thought the anti-vax stopped making that claim after I showed up. In any case they stopped making that around me.

Prior to the Polio Vaccination program in India which was launched (not by Bill Gates) by the Government of India (I mean seriously? India’s like fucking China. It’s a country on the border of a massive revolution into a first world nation. It has vaccination schemes that don’t rely on billionaires. Bill and Melinda Gates support vaccination but i am afraid India’s anti-Polio drives were not due to them. Credit where it’s due. Vaccination against polio in India is a brown people thing.

What NPAFP stands for is Non Polio Acute Flaccid Paralysis. These are people who had Acute Flaccid Paralysis but had no circulating polio viruses. These were caused by a variety of other issues including fungal infections and meningitis. I do like the fact that the anti-vax have stopped using the acronym. You must feel like a total plonker to claim that Non Polio Acute Flaccid Paralysis is caused by Polio.

What the antivax are grasping for are secondary infections due to the OPV which tends to occur in the immunocompromised an unvaccinated. In 2011 there were just 11 cases in India. A country of 1.2 billion people. Literally 1 per 100 million. It is incredibly rare.

As of today India is polio free and swapping to the safer IPV. But it still maintains polio vaccination as neighbouring countries have polio outbreaks.

Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR vaccine) – In 1957, the MMR vaccine became widely used in order to eradicate measles, mumps, and rubella. Between 1983 and 1990, there was a 423% increase in measles cases among vaccinated individuals. Then in 2006, the largest mumps outbreak in twenty years occurred. Among those infected, 63% were immunized, as shown by Neil Miller.

In The Journal of Infectious Diseases, scientists from Vanderbilt University School of Medicine wrote, ‘Vaccine failure accounted for a sustained mumps outbreak in a highly vaccinated population.’

You might be horrified by reading statistics such as: In 2012, there were 122 000 measles deaths globally – about 330 deaths every day or 14 deaths every hour (WHO website) however, you need to know that majority of these deaths occurred in developing countries such as Africa and some parts of Asia with poor access to health care, hygiene standards and extreme poverty. Instead of dealing with these human issues which would help the entire community, they would try and convince you that we need more vaccines! Simply give them pure water, better living conditions and accessible health care and you would save their lives!

The MMR vaccine was created in 1971.

Strange.

What puzzles me is that we can see a clear downward trend in the incidence of measles. Oh… I know what this is. This is bad stat fu. See anti-vax love bad stats. It makes them look scientific but really it is technobabble. They may as well reroute the tachyon beam and invert the polaron field.

Between 1984  and 1990 there was a relatively quiescent period of low measles incidence. Now here is the thing. At one point the USA had just 50 to 90 cases of Measles a year. Imagine a country of 300 million people that once reported a million cases a year now reporting 50. The vaccine was never 100% effective. Neither are seatbelts and bicycle helmets. You can get the disease if you are vaccinated. However if vaccination is high enough the chance you will be exposed to a case of Measles is low and the disease  ceases to spread effectively. And maybe she is right. If you have 10 cases one year and 50 the next then tadaa… you have your 400 percent increase in incidence. Which doesn’t mean much when the prior number was close to a million.

And finally? The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation who she so callously slandered, build sanitation in those poor developing places such as Asia and Africa. See the problem with rich people who have no idea about medicine is that they think that toilets miraculously stop all diarrhoeal disease. They stop a lot but guess what? The big cause of diarrhoea in children is the Rotavirus which is easily spread by adults. It’s easier to speak of NWO’s and evil Microsoft and Depopulation when you haven’t even checked the website of the institution you are slagging off.

And by accessible healthcare I am sure you mean whatever quack she adheres to. Considering it’s raw food? I am guessing raw milk’s high on her list. Yeah. Raw food’s a great way to fall sick in most developing countries. It’s almost as bad as that missionary I caught advocating raw milk (Unpasteurised milk causes 25% of all diarrhoea.). It amuses me how many quacks demand sanitation and water and healthcare for Africa but conveniently never suggest the usage of shaken water to treat “African Diseases”. Possibly  because water memory’s greatest weakness is Yellow Fever.

I highly recommend reading a book called: How to Raise a Healthy Child in Spite of Your Doctorthe author Dr. Robert Mendlesohn, MD showed that vaccinated individuals are 14 times more likely to contract mumps than unvaccinated. Please, read his book if you are considering not immunising your children as it gives you the basic epidemiology overview of each disease and how to treat it in case your unvaccinated child gets it! You would also hear how dangerous measles is! Well, almost all people with mumps fully recover after a few weeks. During the illness, many people feel tired and achy, have fever, and may have parotitis. Some may feel extremely ill and be unable to eat because of pain around the jaw, and some may develop serious complications. Men and adolescent boys can develop orchitis, which rarely results in sterility. Women and adolescents girls may develop oophoritis. Meningitis and loss of hearing can also occur, and in rare cases this hearing loss can be permanent. The most serious complication is encephalitis, which can lead to death or permanent disability, although rarely.

The whooping cough (pertussis) vaccine –  between 1900 and 1935, mortality rates due to whooping cough dropped by 79 percent in the United States. Yet, the vaccine (DTP and DTaP) wasn’t introduced until 1940. In the article titled: Whooping Cough Vaccine not as Powerful as Thought by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution from 2009, the publication highlighted a recent cluster of 18 whooping cough-infected students. Seventeen of those students – 95% of those infected – had been immunized with five doses of DTaP vaccine.

When we speak about an outbreak of any preventable infectious disease by vaccinations, instead of throwing numbers of those unvaccinated and sick, the organisations should highlight how many got recovered without any serious complications like with any other infectious disease which is not the part of immunisation programme. The major ‘weapon’ against people is FEAR. You as parent fear that your child will die! But this is not the case. Your little child is more likely to be hit by a car that dying from measles.

Anyway, the ineffectiveness and un-safety of vaccines has finally gone mainstream. But instead of admitting that they don’t offer protection, health officials and the pharmaceutical companies are pushing for more vaccines as the solution.

Actually in the last major mumps outbreak vaccinated people had as many mumps patients as unvaccinated. However since 90% of people in the area were vaccinated that would make the incidence of Mumps in the unvaccinated 9 times higher. Think 1 in 9 versus  1 in 2. In that outbreak you were nearly 50% likely to get Mumps is you were unvaccinated but only 10% likely to get it if you were vaccinated due to a non-traditional strain. Dr. Mendlesohn’s  book is a litany of fear designed to scare young parents away from the doctor and into the waiting arm of quacks and woo merchants.

Almost all people recover with proper medical care. Nearly 30% of children require hospitalisation due to respiratory infection. Something the good quack fails to mention is all that medicine that goes into making Measles seem harmless. I mean broken bones are harmless too and are rarely fatal, doesn’t mean you magically heal yourself without medicine.

The mortality rate of pertussis fell due to the invention of penicillin and better respiratory assistance  techniques. That’s like suggesting that it’s okay to get polio because you invented the iron lung.

Your little child is more likely to die from a car accident. That’s only because we vaccinated. Once upon a time, Measles was a killer. But medicine and vaccination made it a bogeyman to be treated as harmless. But here is the thing? We have schemes to reduce child fatalities from accidents. We instate slow speeds in child heavy areas like schools and playgrounds. We encourage greater visibility and safety. We don’t simply say “Oh! Well! Very few children drown so let us leave our swimming pool ungated”.

And vaccines are only ineffective in the minds of anti-vax who fail to understand what a rate is.

4. Vaccines safety – this is a big one! So I’ll just touch base and I recall Shane Elliot here the former Big Pharma researcher who quit Big Pharma because of the cholesterol lie–and how that lie has been perpetuated  as I agree what he has written:

Pictured – Cholesterol Plaque in Actual Artery.

It is the fact that vaccines are full of toxins. These include chemicals, heavy metals and allergens. They also include numerous objectionable ingredients, such as monkey kidney cells and aborted fetal tissue. Some of you may argue: ‘But most of the vaccines don’t contain mercury anymore’. Well, guys.. it is not only mercury which is highly toxic!

Full of toxins trope! Monkey Kidney Cells are used to culture certain viruses  and “aborted foetal tissue” refers to human cell lines. The fact remains that the anti-vax would have you think that we steal monkey kidneys and abortions. The fact remains that these are cell cultures. Cell samples that are grown on petri-dishes.

Formaldehyde is one of many chemicals found in vaccines. According to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), ‘Excessive exposure to formaldehyde may cause cancer’. Another ingredient is a chemical known as 2-phenoxyethanol. This comes with an FDA warning which states that, ‘It can depress the central nervous system and may cause vomiting and diarrhoea, which can lead to dehydration in infants’.

Formaldehyde in a single vaccine  is of such minute quantity that your child gets a bigger dose of formaldehyde everytime you use a perfume or give them a pear. In fact we MAKE formaldehyde as a precursor to DNA and RNA. The amount in a vaccine is so miniscule that if it were deadly then your child would have long fallen  prey to the alcohol swab they use to avoid contamination. Guess what? That’s Isopropyl alcohol and toxic. All those times you cleaned your hands? That’s what you are dousing it in. Relax. It evaporates. That’s why we use it.

In addition to mercury and aluminium, many vaccines are also spiked with antibiotics like neomycin, polymyxin B, streptomycin and gentamicin. Although most of the vaccines don’t contain mercury anymore as I mentioned earlier, there are still many other chemicals which I mentioned and we just decided not to inject into our children.

In such minute quantities that it would have no clinical effect. But these are “chemicals” and therefore are bad. Because they are medical chemicals obviously.

More specifically in case you are interested – If you read vaccine package inserts. The insert for the DPT vaccine from Sanofi Pasteur warns that, ‘A review by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) found evidence for a causal relation between tetanus toxoid and both brachial neuritis and Guillain-Barré syndrome (pain and loss of nerve and motor function)’. Makers of the Tripedia vaccine for DTaP state that certain outcomes are so frequent that they had to list them. These reactions include:

  • Anaphylactic reaction
  • Cellulitis (a bacterial skin infection)
  • Autism
  • Convulsion/Seizures
  • Brain dysfunction
  • Low muscle tone and strength
  • Nerve damage
  • Hyperventilation/apnea
  • Sudden Infant Death Syndrome (SIDS)

Actually? They listed them because they were on VAERS.

Of these only Anaphylaxis, Cellulitis (from any injection), Convulsions and Atonia were linked to the vaccine. Autism has NO Link to the DPT. The DPT according to a Japanese study is SLIGHTLY protective against SIDS. And hyperventilation due to pain from the vaccine is common. Honestly? Half of the issue is that parents make such a humongous fuss about the fear of vaccines that children are terrified.

And it is amazing how “Measles” with its 30 to 40% hospitalisation rate is harmless but the vaccine with it’s 1 in 1000 side effect rate is not. Funny that.

Vaccine supporters will state that the benefits outweigh these side effects. But that would only be right statement if vaccination was the only way of protection.

It is the only way of protection. That’s like suggesting ebola can  be turned away by eating raw carrots.

And I’m adding to Shane’s statement – You probably have heard about released study which showed that MMR vaccine may cause autism in children. Well, we don’t want to ‘test’ our children in order to prove this. I have researched 68 clinical studies articles which link vaccines to autism! I’m happy to share them with you in case you’re interested. Just let me know!

You mean the Wakefield study which was so appallingly bad that he claimed that a child with epilepsy had autism? Or that a child that was diagnosed with autism BEFORE the MMR was given was taken  into consideration thus the MMR vaccine can travel through time to cause autism.

Another argument I have heard a lot is that the amounts of toxins in these vaccines are so small that it won’t have a negative impact on health. Well, you need to understand that these toxins are cumulative, meaning that the body cannot get rid of it and more vaccines you inject, more toxins (although in small amounts) will cumulate and have an impact mainly on nervous system!

No they aren’t. Seriously? Even the Thimerosal in vaccines was excreted within 24 hours. None of the vaccines listed have any bio-accumulation toxins. It’s rather spectacular that the author shows absolutely no idea about what the subject matter is.

When outbreaks arise among children, health professionals are quick to state that it’s due to a breakdown in herd immunity. Pro-vaccine parents attack anti-vaccine parents, accusing them of putting vaccinated kids at risk due to a breakdown in herd immunity. From my understanding, The term, ‘herd immunity’, was coined by researcher, A W Hedrich, after he’d studied the epidemiology of measles in USA between 1900-1931. His study published in the May, 1933 (before MMR vaccine was invented) American Journal of Epidemiology concluded that when 68% of children younger than 15 yrs old had become immune to measles via infection, measles epidemics ceased. For several reasons, this natural, pre-vaccine herd immunity differed greatly from today’s vaccine ‘herd immunity’. When immunity was derived from natural infection, a much smaller proportion of the population needed to become immune to show the herd effect; compare the 68% measles immunity required for natural herd immunity to the very high 95% of vaccine coverage deemed necessary for measles vaccine ‘herd immunity’. The vaccine herd immunity is only a hypothesis!

And here is the problem.  Pre-vaccine this would require 70% of ALL people to have Measles. Which isn’t the case. Because the good “Public Health Professional who Worked for the NHS” has forgotten about how people make more children. And how there is a constant stream of immunologically naive children rising through the ranks who initially are isolated and then suddenly would get exposed via school resulting in a new batch of measles cases. So you would never achieve that amount.

And 95% vaccination rates corresponds to around 80% of people who are immune as the vaccine is not perfect. Some people don’t take their boosters. Some people are just old. And some people’s immune systems just forgets.

And the herd immunity is a proven theory. 

Oh, have I mentioned that immunisation may cause autoimmune diseases in children such as diabetes Type-1? Doctor J. Bart Classen, MD, a former researcher at the National Institutes of Health, reported a 60% increase in Type-1 diabetes following a massive campaign in New Zealand from 1988 to 1991 to vaccinate babies six weeks of age or older with hepatitis B vaccine. His analysis of a group of 100,000 New Zealand children followed since 1982 showed that the incidence of diabetes before the hepatitis B vaccination program began in 1988 was 11.2 cases per 100,000 children per year, while the incidence of diabetes following the hepatitis B vaccination campaign was 18.2 cases per 100,000 children per year (May 24, 1996, New Zealand Medical Journal).

No it isn’t. There is no reason why a hepatitis vaccine would cause type 1 diabetes. If that were the case ACTUAL hepatitis would precipitate diabetes.

Ok, I think I have written a lot about our personal reasons why we don’t vaccinate. But what is the other way of protection? Is there any natural way how to build, boost and keep our children’ as well as our immunity strong?

Which do not affect the specific immune system.

YES!!

It is very simple. Eat organic, freshraw foods as much as you can, drinkpure spring or distilled water, avoid anything processed or reduce to minimum, reduce dairy products, reduce stress, exercise regularly but not extensively and stop watching TV. This is what we do and it seems working.

Because that’s why Africans are dying from ebola. Because their food isn’t fresh or raw and because they spend hours watching TV every day. No… No wait.

Teach your children that they are responsible for their own health, nobody else! Teach them to prepare healthy food for themselves from early age, explain them clearly and in appropriate language suitable for their age all the benefits of eating natural and organic foods, set up hygiene standards which you will follow. In case they get sick with whatever disease, only then deal with it. There is always a natural way how to treat a disease, but this might be a topic for my next article.

Which is funny how so many millions of people used to die to diseases that could be treated by salad.

This particular form of quackery has a deadly event. It was called the South African Salad Bowl. During a period, South Africa’s health minister tried to fight AIDS and HIV using traditional African Medicine and vitamins. It was roundly derided. And it’s price was nearly a million more HIV cases in South Africa due to schemes to promote healthy eating and vitamin pills as a method of stopping HIV instead of condoms and common sense.

It’s all harmless until someone points out how dangerous it really is.

I sincerely doubt the author ever worked for the NHS in Public Health.

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Comments

  1. ursa major says

    I am a fan of attacks on the anti-health loons, thanks for putting in the time on this.

  2. Cuttlefish says

    My left arm aches, because I got a vaccination today. Tetanus, Diphtheria, and Pertussis. If past Tetanus vaccinations are any warning, my arm will hurt like a sonovabitch tomorrow (it is just starting to ache now). And it will all be worth it.

  3. stever says

    When I hear someone waving the words “natural” and “Organic” (you can usually hear the capital ‘O’) around, I’m tempted to interrupt him to point out that lead is natural, mustard gas is organic, and botulin is both.

  4. says

    Her public health professional claims don’t stand up. Her LinkedIn profile has been removed and searching for her on Google returns only an email and no publications or reports, which you’d expect from her claims. Also, she’s now moved to Australia so has no current connections with the NHS.

  5. Ysidro says

    “I mean everyone knows how vaccines work.”

    No, they don’t. They think they do, but they don’t even have a proper layman’s understanding of vaccination. This is one of the problems. Misinformation. Noise over signal.

    I’m just glad there are people like you who are actually helping.

  6. smrnda says

    This comment alone was pure quackery
    ” There is always a natural way how to treat a disease, but this might be a topic for my next article.”

    First, what the hell is ‘natural’ anyway?

    Second, I’m sure that there are (or have been) ‘natural’ ways to treat all kinds of diseases, but we know that many of these ‘natural’ ways to treat disease were useless and counterproductive. Blood letting and leeches don’t fix the problems they tended to be used for, natural or not.

    Point 2 read like some ant-modernity screed, but this stood out:

    “It’s like saying that Human race is not perfect enough like other living creatures on this planet so we need some immunity ‘booster’ to awake our ‘sleepy’ immunity. ”

    totally, the fact that animals don’t use vaccines mean we shouldn’t either. Is she aware that animals are given medical treatments like vaccines at times, and animals which receive medical care live longer than animals that do not? My cats have been vaccinated against diseases. I would be a negligent idiot not to do that. My cats will live longer than feral cats, because of technology.

    And the dented car analogy? O no..

    The use of stats is quite pointless as well. if 40% of people with a disease were vaccinated against it, this says nothing about the effectiveness of the vaccine versus not the vaccine.

  7. Yaron Davidson says

    That’s like claiming to be a car safety engineer who doesn’t believe in crumple zones and seat belts.

    I do know someone who doesn’t use seat belts, since they limit movement options to move away from an incoming vehicle when you see a car coming, and since in some crashes they may get locked/tied and you will not be able to leave the car.
    That person is not a car safety engineer, though.

    To compare this to “damaging your car on purpose so it won’t be damaged by a crash” is frankly daft.

    But isn’t that what crumple zones are all about? Having weaker areas on the car, more likely to bend on impact?

    I never thought about it before, but now I don’t know how there aren’t conspiracy theories about Big Car.
    They charge extra money for “safety” features that limit your freedom, trap you in case of accidents, and use weaker and less rigid materials in the car. Their lobbying push laws and regulations that force people to use these features. Which risk passengers but get the car manufacturers, and their car-safety related companies, money. Safety belts, beyond initial costs, create a market for emergency kits with a knife to cut through safety belts in case of accidents. Crumple zones mean the car is more likely to be a total loss after a crush thereby ensuring a sale of another car rather than a visit to a mechanic.

    How isn’t this a thing yet?

  8. badgersdaughter says

    This article may lead you to assume that it is impossible for medical professionals working for the NHS to be anti-vax. Unfortunately I know a family in Scotland in which the wife works in an epidemiology lab (she is a scientist there; I am not sure whether her actual profession is “epidemiologist”). They do not vaccinate their children, nor do they get the annual flu shot, nor does the husband, who travels internationally for business 10+ times a year, get immunizations against diseases that might exist in the countries he visits.

  9. says

    I was obviously aware and it is a well known fact that immunisation is not 100% effective, but I was surprised that out of let’s say 100 people who got the disease, 40 of them (40%) were vaccinated against the disease.

     

    Well, I was obviously aware and it is a well known fact that some people die in hospital, but I was surprised that out of let’s say 100 people who die in hospital, 100 of them (100%) were alive when they were admitted.

     

    Now most people can immediately see that what I said has no bearing on whether it is wise or not to allow oneself to be admitted to hospital. The most that you can deduce from the fact that surprised me so much is that some people die in hospital – i.e. the well known fact. What is harder for most people to see is that the same is true in the quoted case. It may well be true that 40% of those who contracted a disease had previously been vaccinated against it. However the most can deduce from that fact alone is that the vaccine is not 100% effective.

     

    Suppose, for instance, that some particular clinic found that 100% of those who got a disease had been immunised, would that show the vaccine was not effective? Not necessarily, it may merely reflect the fact that nearly 100% of the local population had been vaccinated. Conversely, if another clinic found that 0% of those who got a disease had been immunised would that show the vaccine was effective? Again, not necessarily, it may merely reflect the fact that hardly any of the local population had been vaccinated.

     

    In short a statistic like the one presented, which for all I know is quite accurate, tells us absolutely nothing unless we also know the vaccination rate in the local population. If that rate were 1% it would be evidence that the vaccine was actively harmful whereas if that rate were 99% it would be evidence that the vaccine was incredibly successful.

     

    Unfortunately there are those in the medical profession, especially those who put too much weight on what they call their “clinical experience,” who simply don’t understand this point. I am thinking, for instance, of a nurse I know who thought that vaccination was totally ineffective for similar reasons. But this sort of thinking can be found elsewhere. I know a traffic cop who was convinced that seat belts were ineffective because in the vast majority of fatal accidents he had attended, the victims were wearing seat belts. When I queried his conclusion he pointed out that he had been patrolling the M1 for over a decade and that I didn’t have the experience to comment on it.

  10. smrnda says

    “I do know someone who doesn’t use seat belts, since they limit movement options to move away from an incoming vehicle when you see a car coming.”

    Wait… you mean this person thinks the best idea would be to what, jump out of the car into the street? Totally, that’s a way safer place than inside that car.

  11. Yaron Davidson says

    you mean this person thinks the best idea would be to what, jump out of the car into the street?

    They meant more to go sideways (either slide against the door, or towards the center/other-seat) when they see an impact about to happen from the side or at an angle.

    Which seemed to me to be completely silly at the time. Though after being involved in an accident where a car did came at me in an intersection straight from the side (the driver didn’t notice they had a red light and a non-clear intersection) I downgraded it to just plain silly rather than completely silly.
    I mean sure, I did manage to move a few centimeters with the belt on, and it did limit the impact of the door that reached just up to slightly hitting me, but with the time involved I couldn’t have moved further even if there wasn’t a belt there. There really is a limit to how far a person can go from sitting still compared to a moving car.

    And all this of course completely ignores the majority of crashes, where the impact is mainly forward/back, and belts are a great lifesaver. Going for marginal improvement in rare cases in exchange for losing a big improvement in common cases is, well, not exactly a good idea, to be polite. But yes, there are actually real living people who don’t see it that way.

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