Theadore Beale aka Vox Day is up for a Hugo Award.
This is just bizarre. See Vox Day is for want of a better description a rather despicable human being.
He’s got the trifecta. Beloved of the Stormfront, the man’s a racist. A darling of the MRA and Pick Up Artist communities, the man’s an out and out misogynist. And a full blown homophobe.
There is no actual way to defend him even if you are one of the MRA who try to hide behind a more moderate stance of convoluted thoughts. Theadore Beale is just a terrible human being. Don’t believe me? Well it’s kind of simple to look at what he has brought to the discussion.
Not only have the proposed benefits manifestly failed to manifest themselves, but the opportunity cost of future generations has begun to become readily apparent everywhere from Europe to Asia. One wonders how low birth rates have to fall in civilized countries before the elites begin to realize that the Taliban may not, in fact, be the stupid ones with regards to this particular matter.
Vox on the education of women and how it will cause a fall in population because we are engaged in a war of attrition with the Tyranids/Ork Hordes/Muslims.
No society that wishes to survive should convert all of its prospective mothers into worker drones any more than it should convert all of its prospective farmers into doctors or telephone sanitizers. Sure, it takes longer for a society to die out demographically than starve, but the end result is the same.
Who cares about what women want, Vox wants you all pregnant. But he is willing to give up on the “barefoot” and “in the Kitchen” parts. Because he is progressive!
Because educating women is strongly correlated with reducing their disposition and ability to reproduce themselves. Educating them tends to make them evolutionary dead ends.
Does PZ seriously wish to claim that not reproducing is intrinsically beneficial to women? Does he really find it hard to understand how not reproducing is evolutionary disadvantageous?
The PZ in this is our very own master and commander… PZ Myers.
And yes this is about how women getting educated tends to have an effect where women want just two kids and to care for them to the best of their ability. Because we have a massive pressure to survive based on the elements.
Because raising girls with the expectation that their purpose in life is to bear children allows them to pursue marriage at the age of their peak fertility, increase the wage rates of their prospective marital partners, and live in stable, low-crime, homogenous societies that are not demographically dying. It also grants them privileged status, as they alone are able to ensure the continued survival of the society and the species alike. Women are not needed in any profession or occupation except that of child-bearer and child-rearer, and even in the case of the latter, they are only superior, they are not absolutely required.
Vox Day is the Science Fiction Writer’s Taliban.
Because only in his mind does forcing women to stay at home and be Uteruses who Clean House create privilege and respect. Also? If women didn’t work we would hire everyone! Why that female doctor? That inner city youth stealing cars would be a doctor if not for the opportunities she robbed him of!
Because if women don’t get jobs they stay at home and clean. If men don’t get jobs we shoot each other and rob corner shops.
Because female promiscuity and divorce are strongly correlated with a whole host of social ills, from low birth and marriage rates to high levels of illegitimacy.
Can’t you see! He just wants this for your own good!
Because far more women are aborted than die as a result of their pregnancies going awry. The very idea that letting a few women die is worse than killing literally millions of unborn women shows that PZ not only isn’t thinking like a scientist, he’s quite clearly not thinking rationally at all. If PZ is going to be intellectually consistent here, then he should be quite willing to support the abortion of all black fetuses, since blacks disproportionately commit murder and 17x more people could be saved by aborting black fetuses than permitting the use of abortion to save the life of a mother. 466 American women die in pregnancy every year whereas 8,012 people died at the hands of black murderers in 2010.
Pro-Life and A Racist! Will the douchebaggery never end!
Because female independence is strongly correlated with a whole host of social ills. Using the utilitarian metric favored by most atheists, a few acid-burned faces is a small price to pay for lasting marriages, stable families, legitimate children, low levels of debt, strong currencies, affordable housing, homogenous populations, low levels of crime, and demographic stability. If PZ has turned against utilitarianism or the concept of the collective welfare trumping the interests of the individual, I should be fascinated to hear it.
I have long campaigned for the proper care and treatment of people who are attacked with Acid. The entire point of such attcks is to turn the victim into a grotesque and ugly monster to be pittied. It is to take away who you are. It is used mainly against women, with a 90% bias towards them. Men are affected too but it is male on male as a crime and usually for similar reasons.
If this horrifies you? Then fight against Vox Day by doing something good for the women (and men) he considers a utilitarian cost.
Give to my fundraiser for Acid Survivors Trust International.
And this isn’t the worst of this man.
Of course, this is no mystery to the theoreticians of Game. As women achieve a higher level of education, their hypergamy cause them to increasingly focus on a dwindling pool of men with whom they are also competing. Those who cannot score an Alpha or a Beta tend to elect to remain single and devote themselves to their careers rather than settle for a Delta or Gamma as their mothers and grandmothers did. In reaction to their disdain, the lesser men are not only less attractive to these educated women, they are also less attracted to them as they learn there is no possibility of satisfying relationships with them.
I bet Mr. Day sees himself as an Alpha. I think pretty much anyone else who thinks they are Alpha male has done us a favour by automatically declaring themselves to be douchebags.
I therefore suggest that their assertions should be taken with at least a small grain of salt rather than credited to me. And it should be obvious that, being a libertarian, I am not actively attempting to take away anyone’s “most basic rights”. Jemisin has it wrong; it is not that I, and others, do not view her as human, (although genetic science presently suggests that we are not equally homo sapiens sapiens), it is that we simply do not view her as being fully civilized for the obvious historical reason that she is not.
And naturally? Full Homo Sapiens = White
Because writing science fiction is great but it doesn’t really allow you to claim you were responsible for Isambard Kingdom Brunel. No, Vox Day is full on proper “Black People are not human” Racist.
The laws are not there to let whites ” just shoot people like me, without consequence, as long as they feel threatened by my presence”, those self-defense laws have been put in place to let whites defend their lives and their property from people, like her, who are half-savages engaged in attacking them.
And what of all the white nationalist terror attacks? Is there a law to defend ourselves from those human beings who think that melanin dictates your genteelness?
During the “Lynching” years there was a sort of social attitude to them. Kids would be brought out. There would be singing. See? The people who lynched and murdered black people didn’t see it as a cruelty or an evil. All those rapings?
They saw it as pest control. Like squashing a cockroach. They even had a roaring trade in photos. A real kodak moment.
It was so vile that the Nazis were appalled. They may be genocidal but they didn’t make trading cards of the victims of their bigotry. Taste among racists. Who knew?
But the thing was these people considered themselves kind and good and lawful. They even called the journalists! Because deep inside their minds they knew what they were doing was 100% right and good for everyone else.
That is what lets people say things like this. Pity Vox Day, deep in his mind he thinks he is a good man and will never ever realise what an epic shithead he is.
Jemisin’s disregard for the truth is no different than the average Chicago gangbanger’s disregard for the traditional Western code of civilized conduct. She could, if she wished, claim that privileged white males are responsible for the decline of Detroit, for the declining sales of science fiction, even for the economic and cultural decline of the United States, but that would not make it true. It would not even make it credible. Anyone who is paying sufficient attention will understand who is genuinely responsible for these problems.
Because Detroit’s Car Industry was destroyed by gang warfare. Not industrialisation of Japan and the rise of the Cheap Japanese Import and the unwillingness of the American Auto Industry to improve quality, costs and effectiveness of production.
And the economic decline of the US is due to saggy jeans, not due to men in suits who gambled with securities, cut housing support and then offered cheap mortgages. Men who were mainly white who saw a bust coming and decided to make as much profit as possible before the bust and at the cost of everyone else.
Nope. It was baggy trousers and visible boxer elastic. Sorry! Black people’s baggy trousers and visible boxer elastic! You know how they used to say that rising hemlines were linked to the economic downturns? Well falling trousers are linked to faith in the economy.
Being an educated, but ignorant half-savage, with little more understanding of what it took to build a new literature by “a bunch of beardy old middle-class middle-American guys” than an illiterate Igbotu tribesman has of how to build a jet engine, Jemisin clearly does not understand that her dishonest call for “reconciliation” and even more diversity within SF/F is tantamount to a call for its decline into irrelevance. Nor do the back-patting Samuel Johnsons wiping their eyes and congratulating her for her ever-so-touching speech understand that.
Look you guys figured out he’s a racist but these are things that must be said.
See the notion that everyone outside Rome and Greece are barbarians is part of the whole dialogue of White Nationalists. As if Vox Day had any idea about Rome! Rome was a multi-cultural society (as was Egypt). There were “black” Centurians and Decurians. The Roman Auxilla who made up a huge number of legionnaires were usually not from Rome. In many cases parts of the empire had never seen a proper “Red Dyed Roman Legionnaire” with local equivalents picking up the equipment and the training with the clothes they had. Vox Day’s views were that Rome was some sort of paradise for White dudes lording it over their Black Slaves. Because the fantasy of Rome appeals to racists.
But atheists are prouder, more intelligent, and less emotional than the norm, and are therefore less convinced by deeds than words. So, many of them require their pride in their intelligence to be broken before they can reach a state of mind that permits them to hear the Good News and contemplate it rationally. And this is where people like me can open up their minds, by forcing them to acknowledge the myriad flaws in their arguments and by making them question their previously unquestioned assumptions. I know that I am getting through to at least some of them, because they have let me know that has been the case.
Is there nothing this man cannot be a douche about?
This sick thing about our society is that we are actively dissuading these young women from doing what they want to do, what they are designed to do, and what society needs them to do, in favor of trying to coerce them into doing what they don’t want to do, what they’re not very good at, and what society has absolutely no need of them doing.
We’re seeing more women, like the policewomen in the UK and the female marine in the USA, angrily pointing out that they were set up for failure. And that is exactly what is happening to these “Code Divas” and “Design Duchesses”. Pushing careers they don’t want on them isn’t a way to empower or liberate women, it is a cruel means of turning them from the domestic queens they were meant to be into sterile, sub-par worker bees chiefly employed as office sex toys.
What he thinks about women.
Look, Science Fiction is great. You may be new reader and not realise this but I LOVE science fiction. I am like the King of Nerds. I even disagree with PZ Myers and his rather distasteful take on Warhammer because I loved the Games Workshop (I think they jumped the Mega Cyber Daemon Shark with the new stuff) but I like the universe.
I loved Dune. I loved Shadowrun. I love Science Fiction, I love Fantasy. I have everything from Asimov to R.U.R on my already read list. I may not have read everything but I love the genres. And there are plenty of non white guys like me. There are plenty of women. There are plenty of gay people too. We are geeks, we are REAL geeks and nerds and what have you.
But we know that the greater “nerd” community is not a place where we are regularly seen. it’s also not a place that people from Minority Groups such as the GLBT, PoC and Women (hah! Only way a majority can be called a minority!) are found in large numbers. Oh most of you don’t treat us badly but it’s just that people say daft things.
Yes we exist. We like it when Comic books give us minorities. We like Simon Baz, we like John Stewart, we like strong female characters. We like it when they include us and make us part of the dialogue. The norm has to be all of us, not just “white dudes”. Because when the norm is that, people like Vox Day can hide in the shadows.
We want to be part of something we like.
But if you encourage a man who thinks I am not a human being? That the GLBT should burn in hell? That women deserve to have acid thrown on them?
Then I am afraid you will lose people. We don’t want to visit any event where you nominated such a horrid man for an award.
I mean seriously? I am not nominated for any awards and you are willing to give the same award that Frank “I Made Dune” Herbert won to a man who thinks black people are sub-human?
Why would we want to be part of this? Oh! Vote on the quality of his work!
Well? PoC struggle to be accepted in a sub-culture but the racist gets an award? We struggle with “fake nerd girls” and you think a sexist should get the award? We struggle with homophobia and you think a homophobe should get the award? Until recently most of Indian representations in Nerd Culture boiled down to “Indiana Jones villains” and “Dhalsim”, but it’s changing. Okay DC fucked up with the Indian Firestorm but it did well with Solstice and the other minority Characters. Sure it fucked up Batwoman’s Gay Wedding but it’s generally promoted a better comic book experience by including everyone and not shying away from story lines that are different or which involve people who may not be White, Straight and Male.
Your enjoyment isn’t reduced when you have the Oracle or indeed Gail Simone’s current creation “Vengeance Moth” be disabled. But your enjoyment is reduced when Batwoman cannot marry the woman she loves. What I am saying is that inclusiveness makes stories interesting and new.
You do white, straight men a great disservice if you think they will not be interested in characters who are female, GLBT or not white.
And every time you make a step towards the “Safe” white male demographic you encourage people like Vox Day. You say that you want us to let his writing speak for himself?
What message does that send us? That it is okay to let someone run for an award where his world view is harmful to minority groups within the nerd community? You do realise we have seen similar problems before? Of women cosplayers being harasse. Of the fake nerd girls. Of people of colour being told that their costumes are inaccurate (because of the colour of their skin. The impossible figures and lack of super powers counts for less than accuracy of skin tone).
So when you nominated Theadore Beale what message does that give to the rest of us? That you have no backbone? No spine? No ethic to follow? That you didn’t really care what we thought and that we should judge him without our prejudices?
That our prejudice against racists is not okay but the racism is okay?
You may not explicitly say these things but you are probably wondering why we are so irritated by this.
It’s simple. The Stormfront is running a restaurant. No one shows up and people criticise them for being racists, but then they complain about no black people coming down to eat at the Burning Cross and that people of colour are discriminating against their restaurant.
Okay, Freedom of Speech. Vox Day can say horrible things if he likes.
And we can encourage people to not nominate him, not listen to him and in this case? Vote against his work. There is a “no vote” option on the Hugos. I can only hope that people vote for that more than him.