Let me tell you about the Negro – A Cliven Bundy Story

Are you sitting comfortably?

Libertarian gun nut and all round thief Cliven Bundy seems to think that taxation is theft and utilisation of public land without appropriate pay is somehow a right afforded to people. This isn’t a park for a picnic, but goverenment land for a profitable endeavour at the detriment of the land.

And the environment. The issue is the protection of the Desert Tortoise. Fuck biodiversity! Cows Cows Cows Baby! Why should we care about the environment until it become profitable.

This is the battle cry of the person who lives in the skyscraper above the smog or who travels in the air-conditioned car. I do not. I have heard similar arguments in India. Some of the cities with the worst air quality in the world are here. Inefficient cars, bikes, autorickshaws and trucks smog up the air. Burning rubbish on a small scale adds to it. Sometimes you choke even if you aren’t an asthmatic. And this is one of the better cities.

India is a libertarian paradise, even if there are rules most people don’t follow them. The few rules that exist are bureaucracy for the sake of it. This is a land where there are effectively no road rules.

No standard of safety for cars means most Indian cars do not even meet a single star on the NCAP safety tests. The number of lives this has cost is in the thousands. By contrast? I can buy a second hand car in the UK that would score a full 5 stars. Who cares about safety? If Safety were profitable.

Libertarians live under the assumption that if there were no laws people would all behave properly. Unlike reality where if there are no laws, and there is a slight pressure of resources then everyone turns into a raging dick head unless a new set of laws are laid down.

Humans are a social creature and a society unbound is a society that will regress to the most stable social structure. A true libertarian society is Afghanistan but I am sure precious few libertarians would go there. 

But Clive? NRA and far right darling? Well turns out Cliven’s got a few skeletons in his closet and they are all dressed like blackface minstrels.

“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”

This reminded me of a quote someone once told me.

What is this wonderful thing that no man wants for himself?


  1. Argle Bargle says

    Blacks should do what Bundy does, inherit a ranch and graze cattle on public land without paying.

  2. sheikh mahandi says

    I have always wondered, what exactly is the difference between a Libertarian and an Anarchist?

  3. StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return! says

    What’s with the grey font colour here?

    As for Cliven Bundy, what a despicable nasty and ignorant racist crook.

  4. StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return! says

    PS. Memo to this guy :

    “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he (Cliven Bundy) said.

    Knowledge isn’t the same as opinion and one or two anecdotes about a few people you may have seen – and jumped to very probably false conclusions about – isn’t evidence or reason to claim “knowledge” about a whole group.

  5. HM says

    @2 I’ve asked that question of the many guys that are libertarians. They don’t have an answer. I’ve also pointed to India as a libertarian paradise for the same reasons as Avi. I’ve got fan my there and have been several times. Law only applies when someone wants a bribe – at least that’s what I experienced.

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