Quantcast

«

»

Apr 10 2014

A Voice for Me – Equality? Men’s Issues? Fuck no! We just hate broads!

Part of the dialogue with the Men’s Rights Movement is about how there are so many issues involving men. I agree, there are many issues involving men in an equal world. And that the Men’s Rights Movement is ideally placed to not just lobby for equal rights but to push for changes in issues that negatively affect men.

Instead? The MRA and MRM are more interested in misogyny, hating women and generally being a hate group hiding behind the original mission. The MRA do not try and change the dialogue regarding men, they try and silence women.

So in recent days? This has involved viewing Indian MRA complain about the anti-dowry and anti-rape laws of India. This has also seen MRA fail to realise that there are Gay, Queer and Trans men out there who do require help. And by fail to realise, I mean ignore and harass.

So, I’ve been getting a LOT of non-stop harassment from who I am certain is a straight white man and MRA. He makes up multiple – like 6-7 different accounts every day on twitter just to intimidate me and other WoC. They’re all egg accounts (recently created, no prof. pic – 0 followers, 0 following, <10 tweets) so the anonymity makes it even creepier.

But then a friend sent me THIS thing on reddit’s /r/MensRights[1] subreddit.

A stalkerish, and very troubling documentation of my recent tweets and my WoC friend’s recent tweets peppered with blatant lies (dude does not go to school with me – I don’t have any classmate for more than 1 class – I am NOT the “leader of several feminist groups – fuck I don’t even talk about feminism in my school)… It also proves that this individual is the same one harassing me when he says that “here’s just more of my tweets to her, which she reposted.” My favorite part is “I’ve engaged her on twitter many times, and she always has me blocked.” No shit, Sherlock.

I’m done with being appalled by how he twists and spins and fabricates to make himself the poor little victim. I’m done with these manchildren thinking that they NEED to impose themselves on MY personal space no matter how many times I block them.

And I won’t even get to the comments being posted – where other men are plotting to create blogs and mirroring my twitter to document my “bigotry.” Y’all can check em out yourself.

See, the Men’s Rights Activists of Reddit have banded together to do what they do best. To campaign for equality on issues of gender roles that harm men.

No… no wait. They have focussed the harassment.

Don’t believe me? I am sure the handful of MRA who read this and repeatedly insist that the MRA movement is fighting the oppressive feminists will demand evidence.

So here goes.

AceyJuan’s idea is to literally harass her in real life by destroy her career and those of her friends by a fake Facebook account and/or by damaging her workplace relationships.

Remind me again? How do the MRA actually help men when they behave like such reprehensible dick heads.

How dare someone hide from their harassers! Let’s harass her some more.

Native Americans have the highest rate of suicide in the USA. Always glad to to see the MRA, champions of the minority stand up for the minority hurt the most by a men’s issue and getting it “right”.

So basically? They were doxxing her and encouraging people to “contact her” by putting up her information online.

Because that never ends badly.

If you want to see the entire post? Well the MRA have removed the offending posts but not banned the posters. The individuals planning these things were not just “upvoted” but also given nothing.

But someone’s got a screenshot.

Remind me again, how does this help men? This just makes the world worse for everyone. This is creating equality through making life worse for everyone.

28 comments

1 ping

Skip to comment form

  1. 1
    Marcus Ranum

    No… no wait. They have focussed the harassment.

    Well, it’s easier. And, reasons!

    Why try to make progress, when you can pull others back?

  2. 2
    Holms

    Harassing, doxxing and tanking a forthright woman’s career totally helps men! The initial act of harassment makes them feel strong and virile, and then the angry reactions make them feel vindicated because omg look at the wimminz all being mean to me, and all I did was try to ruin a few careers >:( I guess I was right all along!

  3. 3
    William Jones

    There’s definately a great deal to find out about this subject.
    I love all of the points you have made.

  4. 4
    Wayne Hughes

    Somebody essentially lend a hand to make severely articles I would state.

    This is the first time I frequented your web page and
    to this point? I amazed with the analysis you made to
    create this particular put up incredible. Wonderful job!

  5. 5
    Brian Cooper

    It’s amazing for me to have a web page, which is valuable designed for my knowledge.
    thanks admin

  6. 6
    Azuma Hazuki

    The bitter irony of this is, most of the “mens’ issues” are caused by the patriarchy itself! No one hurts men like other men do.

    Who is it that stifles our boys’ emotional development and makes them afraid to ask for help? Other men! Who is it that implements economic and social policy that deprives our boys and men of the ability to lead a meaningful life? Other men! Who is it who harms our gay and trans* brothers and makes their lives so miserable that suicide is an attractive option for many of them? Other men!

    If they would be kinder to themselves, they’ll stop hurting us. This is a vicious, self-reinforcing cycle. I don’t know what to do to help them, and I imagine it would be even worse for a straight woman, who loves men naturally and had to watch her boyfriend or husband suffer through these things. Or for a mother who sees her son broken bit by bit, day by day, by these toxic ideas of what it means to be a man.

    All I know is, the real Voice For Men is inside them, and it’s screaming.

  7. 7
    Giliell, professional cynic -Ilk-

    Yeah, but in order to change things for the better for men they would have to change the things they think make men men.
    Workplace related accidents? It’s not feminists who are trying to keep women out of those professions.
    If some physical standards are kept at the same level for men and women and therefore fewer women become fire fighters or marines then obviously not enough women die in combat!!!. If there are different standards then women are obviously getting off easier and it’s unfair discrimination!!!!.
    Same with suicide. The reason men have much higher suicide rates is weapons. Because women actually attempt suicide way more often, but they usually try “softer” methods like medication which have a high failure rate. Guys go for guns. So the MRA complaint is esentially that women are not good enough at killing themselves, because they sure don’t tackle gun-culture and macho-culture.

  8. 8
    closedmyaccount

    Harassing, doxxing and tanking a forthright woman’s career totally helps men!

    Yes, actually it does. Society in general benefits from that.

    1. Since several feminist/SJW activists have fabricated such stories about “attacks” in the recent past, the default position is “independent witnesses or it never happened”.

    2. “Forthright” ? What an enthusiasm. If you trespass onto property which is either owned by, or lent to, someone else, threaten people with violence, shout them down and interfer with their proceedings, you are actually a violent criminal.

    And it’s not only “okay” to uncover the identity of these social justice criminals and make them known to the public and the authorities, it’s a moral imperative. And while it’s certainly regrettable that these criminals aren’t being prosecuted by the law as severely as they should, the public still has a right to know who they are and what they do, in order to take proper safety precautions.

  9. 9
    Avicenna

    1. You mean like Watson, Sarkeesian, Hera, Dadabhoy, Richards. Do you mean to tell me that the entire Slymepit is just a feminist sock account?

    2. Glad to see you think Gandhi was a violent criminal

    TIL the detractors to my work are secretly sock accounts and Gandhi was a violent criminal.

    A moral imperative you say?

    I repeat how the fuck does this help any man? So far you have made my gender look like a bunch of tools.

  10. 10
    Holms

    Shorter Schlumbumbi post:
    If a woman claims to have been attacked, show that bitch she is mistaken… by attacking her!

    Schlumbumbi, you are not only stupid but also counterproductive in this discussion. Even if you initially had a point, by attacking women (or defending those that do), you are proving them correct and tanking your own point.

  11. 11
    Pitchguest

    Avi: How does feminists croaning on about men being the bane of their existence help women?

    Don’t answer that. Rhetorical question.

  12. 12
    Stacy

    How does feminists croaning on about men being the bane of their existence help women?

    Feminists don’t actually do that. I read and talk to feminists every damn day, and nobody makes blanket statements about men. In fact the only women I know who do that sort of thing tend not to be feminists.

    Hey PG, how do you get away with posting such drivel?

    (Rhetorical question.)

  13. 13
    closedmyaccount

    @9 Avicenna

    I repeat how the fuck does this help any man?

    Only by removing the threat of violence made by these criminals, you create an safe-space in which people can speak freely. If the radfems had their way, no man would be able to talk about ANYTHING that concerns his well-being. And yes, it is a moral imperative to fight against these people.

    BTW: There are serious hints that Ghandi was a racist kiddie-fiddler, so I’m not entirely sure what your point was. Were you trying to insinuate that Ghandi was somehow a good person ?

    @10 Holms

    Are you saying that writing a tweet and punching someone in the face are somehow “the same” ? I hope not, that would make you look like a real kook.

    I’m not even sure what point you’re trying to make … are you saying that this particular woman was innocent ? Or are you saying that even criminal SJWs have a right to remain anonymous and not got prosecuted ?

  14. 14
    doublereed

    I’ve had several conversations about feminists about men’s well being. It’s a pretty frequent conversation topic in feminist circles. It’s almost like you live in a magical fantasy reality of what feminism actually is.

    TIL I learned the best way to have a safe space to speak freely is to punish, harass, and dox anyone who dissents. BRILLIANT!!!

    Just ban this asshole. He’s not going to contribute anything useful.

  15. 15
    Holms

    Don’t answer that. Rhetorical question.

    You either asked a question but explicitly stated that it is not to be answered, in which case your post is useless. Or you do actually want an answer, but you feign disinterest because you just can’t seem to help being passive agressive, in which case you are intentionally being a wanker.

    So which is it? Are you a useless millstone to the conversations you join, or just a wanker?

  16. 16
    Holms

    Oops, meant to hit preview rather than submit.

    @Schlumbumbi
    …What the fuck are you talking about? The conversation has been about the online harassment campaign endorse by MRA redditors, you’re the one that brought up violence. No one here has suggested that punches and tweets are the same, except you, so don’t even bother trying to attribute that to me.

  17. 17
    closedmyaccount

    @14 doublereed — You really don’t get it, do you ?

    This is not about opining or theorising about what feminism is or should be, it’s about the vandals and muggers who will simply come and fuck everyone’s shit up whenever they sense that people don’t abide by the rules feminism has set for public discourse.

    It’s the condescending feminists who’re quick to assure everyone that mens’ problems are taken care of – of course within feminist discourse – while even they know that the goon squads are waiting at the sidelines to pummel everyone who dares to think and say otherwise, against anyone who makes a very simple observation: Modern feminist discourse is factually incapable of solving anyone’s problems.

  18. 18
    Holms

    Modern feminist discourse is factually incapable of solving anyone’s problems.

    This is true, but only if we accept ‘feminist discourse’ to mean your strawman version of feminism. Vandals, muggers, and goon squads? Patently absurd.

  19. 19
    closedmyaccount

    @16 Holms

    I don’t know what you’re talking about, I’m talking about Avi’s article, and I was specifically referring to this bit:

    So basically? They were doxxing her and encouraging people to “contact her” by putting up her information online.

    Because that never ends badly.

    If you want to see the entire post? Well the MRA have removed the offending posts but not banned the posters. The individuals planning these things were not just “upvoted” but also given nothing.

    But someone’s got a screenshot.

    So I think I my arguments are clear, but I’ll repeat them in case you missed them

    (1) If you go online to call for carrying out real life actions against other people, namely advocating for the exercise of violence and hatred, you have forfeited any right to anonymity. Not only can you be doxxed legitimately, but you should be doxxed – anyone should doxx you, so the public is warned about your activities and the authorities can prosecute you.

    The mere fact that people are then able to contact you and tell you what they think of you – there’s nothing bad in this. You were actively seeking the attention of the public, now don’t complain that you got it.

    (2) If you argue that doxxing someone leads to physical violence in the real world, as Avi did, you better be prepared to not only demonstrate that the violence itself actually happened, but that it happened as a result of getting doxxed. If you can’t demonstrate that, which is understandable since you’re usually not in the position to investigate the matter, at least try to demonstrate that this has happened before in the same context.

    If you fail at both, revisit your argument.

  20. 20
    closedmyaccount

    @18 Holms

    LOOOOL. Ask Janice Fiamengo or Warren Farrell, they might have a thing or two to say about these “straw feminists”.

  21. 21
    Pitchguest

    Stacy:

    Feminists don’t actually do that. I read and talk to feminists every damn day, and nobody makes blanket statements about men. In fact the only women I know who do that sort of thing tend not to be feminists.

    Feminists make use of blanket statements all the time. Case in point: they contend we live in a society ruled by men, where women are subjugated and oppressed. They contend we live in a rape culture, supported and made possible by men. Not ‘some’ men or ‘many’ men or even ‘most’ men, just… men. There’s rarely a qualifier of any description. Does this generalisation help women?

    Hey PG, how do you get away with posting such drivel?

    (Rhetorical question.)

    … *takes a deep breath* … *raises finger* … *puts it down* That’s … that’s not how … that … works. Mmm. Okay. Nevermind.

  22. 22
    Pitchguest

    Holms:

    You either asked a question but explicitly stated that it is not to be answered, in which case your post is useless. Or you do actually want an answer, but you feign disinterest because you just can’t seem to help being passive agressive, in which case you are intentionally being a wanker.

    So which is it? Are you a useless millstone to the conversations you join, or just a wanker?

    Ha! I would like to say I saw what you did there, but that would require a certain cleverness I suspect you lack.

    Avi’s was a rhetorical question, as was mine. The answer is obvious. You follow it just fine; you figure it out.

  23. 23
    Holms

    #19
    (1) If you go online to call for carrying out real life actions against other people, namely advocating for the exercise of violence and hatred, you have forfeited any right to anonymity. Not only can you be doxxed legitimately, but you should be doxxed – anyone should doxx you, so the public is warned about your activities and the authorities can prosecute you.

    Avicenna cites some one who documented some of the harassment levelled against her. This harassment included not just doxxing, but harassment and career sabotage. This is harm being done to her.

    In return, she …doesnot call for violence against those that are doxxing her, nor was she calling for violence beforehand that I can see. Nor has Avicenna, as far as I have ever seen. If you disagree with either of these statements, a citation will be required unless you want to be laughed at.

    Therefore, your argument ‘people that anonymously call for violence deserve to lose their anonymity’ is irrelevant, even if true (I’m pretty confident you will not be able to provide any such citation).

    (2) If you argue that doxxing someone leads to physical violence in the real world, as Avi did…

    No he didn’t, rendering this section moot.

    The fact that you are trying to refute points not present in this post is just odd.

    #21
    Feminists make use of blanket statements all the time.

    As does Pitchguest!

    #22
    Ha! I would like to say I saw what you did there, but that would require a certain cleverness I suspect you lack.

    Avi’s was a rhetorical question, as was mine. The answer is obvious. You follow it just fine; you figure it out.

    Passive aggressive wankery it is! Not that I should be surprised, given your outright lies to make a point in the ealier ‘Pitchguest doesn’t get it etc.’ thread.

    Speaking of which, I reduced my argument against you in that thread to a single question, for simplicity. Feel free to tackle it.

  24. 24
    Lashonda

    Howdy! This is kind of off topic but I need some
    help from an established blog. Is it hard to set up
    your own blog? I’m not very techincal but I
    can figure things out pretty quick. I’m thinking about creating my own but I’m not sure where to start.
    Do you have any points or suggestions? Cheers

  25. 25
    Nick Gotts

    Schlumbumbi,

    1. Since several feminist/SJW activists have fabricated such stories about “attacks” in the recent past, the default position is “independent witnesses or it never happened”

    Where’s your evidence for this claim?

    2. “Forthright” ? What an enthusiasm. If you trespass onto property which is either owned by, or lent to, someone else, threaten people with violence, shout them down and interfer with their proceedings, you are actually a violent criminal.

    With the exception of threatening people with violence, none of these activities would make someone a violent criminal. Aside from that, where is your evidence that the woman Avicenna discusses here has done any of these things?

  26. 26
    Holms

    They came, they spewed bullshit, they left without providing a shred of evidence. Just another thread graced by the ‘pit.

  27. 27
    Nick Gotts

    holms@26,

    Evidence, schmevidence! Who needs it when you’ve got the slymepit to crawl back to?

  28. 28
    Briana Huynh

    I think the admin of this site is genuinely working hard for his site,
    because here every data is quality based data.

  1. 29
    A Voice for Me – It’s not Racism if you don’t know the Context » A Million Gods

    […] So this was sent to me as somehow explaining the harassment of a woman who happened to disagree with this charming man. […]

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

You may use these HTML tags and attributes: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <cite> <code> <del datetime=""> <em> <i> <q cite=""> <strike> <strong>