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Mar 18 2014

God Is Not Dead

It’s awfully hard to die when you don’t exist.

That is not what we say at all.

Atheists say that there is no evidence for the existence of any gods so there is no point in believing in one nor is there a point in believing in the myriad rules and restrictions and orders that come from the non-existent god. In addition we realise that since there is no god, chances are the orders are not divine but the orders of men who lived centuries ago who have no idea about society today and the progress we have made. In short, it is not just harmful but woefully out of date. We know religious people think this way too, which is why Christians while  clamouring to deny the GLBT rights or dictate what women do with their foetuses quietly ignore all the genocide, murder and slavery.

The thing is god is a fantastic creature. A marvellous entity should one exist. An entire species (because there is not going to be just one of them) of beings that exist outside of space and time that are effectively (currently) undetectable and who have in effect created this universe solely for their unfathomable needs. That this god has such powers that it can rewrite our reality and is in effect “magic”.

The assumption is that there is only one such god that is eternal and there exist no others. And this god’s name is Jehovah. And this god wants you to (among other things) throw rocks at Elton John as he has an entirely different idea of what rock music is.

Each claim regarding god is fantastic and each would be regarded as dubious on their own. We do not blindly accept that Mr. Joe Smythe from London has the power to shoot laser beams from his nipples, yet we accept that the gods are capable of the same? If we made this claim, Mr Smythe would be nipple deep in people calling him out and would have to actively display his laserous mammaries in order for us to believe him. Yet this is not the case with any god. The miracles attributed are passable as mere chance.

We cannot disprove that god exists in the same way that you cannot disprove that human beings can shoot lasers out of our nipples.

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Even after you look all we will say is that you haven’t looked hard enough or you aren’t opening your mind to lactiferous lasers or some other excuse.

The fact of the matter is the person making the fantastic claim has the onus to provide evidence. Repeatable, non-subjective, empirical experiments showing that there exists a god and his name is Jehovah and he hates gays and piggies.

My example is foolish but let’s take a real life example.

The quest for a cure for AIDS has been on going and we have made enormous strides in knowledge and medical care for the sufferers of HIV. If I were to release  paper stating that I can cure AIDS, it would be a revolution in science. If proven true I would hold a Nobel Prize. I would be King of Medicine for a fair while and children would learn of my name  along with the likes of Salk and Jenner and Fleming.

But I would have to prove that I have the evidence and demonstrate my methods and try and test it. I would have to brave the gauntlet of academia and my theory and science must defeat all criticism and prove it’s usefulness. And then and only then will I be declared the slayer of the dragon of HIV. There will be statues I assume.

If I instead refused to demonstrate my proof, refused to actually help anyone and showed no evidence then people would ignore me as another quack. They would denounce me as a vulture who preyed on the weak and sick and desperate and my ashes would be spat on long after I was dead for the harm I willingly caused.

My rather tame claim of knowing how to cure AIDS is nothing compared to having guaranteed proof of a god. The lack of evidence for there being no god is daft.

If we consider our knowledge as a box and everything outside the box is the unknown, we have used science to make the box so much  more bigger and at every stage the gods of mankind have been hidden behind the next largest box. And his defenders insist he is just behind the next theorem and principle. I am afraid the onus of proof is on the person making such claims.

If you said “no one can disprove the existence of a god so I believe” then you are not just wrong but stupid too because you fail to realise that means you have to believe in Santa Clause, Tooth Fairy and fear the Bogeyman.

Well another bogeyman that hides in the dark of human hearts and pretends to be the light.

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  1. 1
    B Cazz

    Well done.

    The best and most amusing illustration of the point I’ve read.

    “We do not blindly accept that Mr. Joe Smythe from London has the power to shoot laser beams from his nipples, yet we accept that the gods are capable of the same? If we made this claim, Mr Smythe would be nipple deep in people calling him out and would have to actively display his laserous mammaries in order for us to believe him. Yet this is not the case with any god.”

  2. 2
    Marcus Ranum

    Shorter David Hume: which is more likely, that Mr. Joe Smythe can shoot lasers from his nipples, or that Mr. Joe Smythe is a liar?

  3. 3
    Avicenna

    You leave poor Mr. Smythe out of this, the claim’s from me! That way if you do find “a Joe Smythe” he will be the wrong one and so cannot point to things on presentations when he takes his shirt off.

  4. 4
    RJC

    What is a not dead. God apparently has one and I want one. :(

  5. 5
    Nathaniel Frein

    I don’t have anything of substance to add, just that I massively squeed that you posted a One Piece pic.

  6. 6
    M can help you with that.

    Nipple-lasers are just so much more…vivid an image than Russell’s Teapot. I love it.

  7. 7
    Allan Frost

    And his defenders insist he is just behind the next theorem and principle. I am afraid the onus of proof is on the person making such claims.

    They know in their heart of hearts that Jesus is out there surfing some gnarly gravitational waves. Just open your heart, man.

  8. 8
    Avicenna

    @7… Here i was making a Alpha Centauri quote and no one got it….

  9. 9
    Holms

    “…I say, no one can disprove that god exists.”
    OK smarty-pants screen writer, if you require a disproof of a god / religion before disbelieving in it, where is your disproof of every single god / religion that you do not follow? Oh, you didn’t think to apply your reasoning to your own position on religion. Well, fuck you too.

  10. 10
    angharad

    Urgh. Not just spam, but spam I shouldn’t have started reading whilst eating dinner…

  11. 11
    Ted Grant

    Imagine an ant in a garden. Suppose the ant believes that the Gardener exists. What difference would that make to the life of the ant? Would it help if the ant prayed to the Gardener, perhaps asking him to heal his bad leg?

    Or perhaps the ant should not waste time thinking about the Gardener and get on with his ant activities?

    Similarly, suppose there are gods, so what? Let the gods do what they do, ‘cos they are gonna anyway.
    And lets just get on with our lives and not waste time, ‘cos there’s precious little left.

    The idea that the gods made us the way we are and want to punish us for the way we are is just silly.
    The idea that god came down to earth and died for us is also silly

    The idea that we should mumble positive things about god on Sunday in a cold building is even sillier.

    And do you think you will live after you are dead? The word DEAD is a good clue.

  12. 12
    Tony Vetrano

    Hello: The movie God’s not dead is wrong. God proves Himself to anyone who will draw close to Him. HE PROVES HIMSELF TO THOSE THAT WILL DRAW CLOSE TO HIM. We are talking about the example of JESUS CHRIST that most so-called CHRISTIANS MESS UP because they believe what people tell them about GOD but never seek for themselves. If they never draw close to him, they will NEVER know him and have a relationship with him. To hell with religion. Further, if people never never seek the Almighty God to have the relationship they need and that he greatly desires with them, He has no choice but to give them the death they prefer over His promise of Life. You must be born again to see the kingdom and you must be born of the water and of the Holy Spirit to enter. Most so called christians don’t even believe this. It is impossible to please God without faith. You can get annoyed with just one more fool, as I might be in your eyes, but PEOPLE CAN’t PROVE GOD TO YOU , ONLY YOU CAN PROVE HIM TO YOU and since you don’t believe yourself worthy to receive all that he has stored for each and every one, you’ll get what you get. I’ll get what I get if I don’t get it right. But remember one thing, YOU NEVER PROVED HIM TO YOURSELF! Had you sought to do so YOU WOULD FIND HIM. IF you never seek to have Him prove himself to you, the day will come when you will see what HE DID OVER AND OVER AGAIN TO GET YOUR ATTENTION. And you will remember and you will say God’s Not Dead, but to who?

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