I loathe to link to the Christian Post.
Not because it’s a home to the usual bigots but because it’s home to the most annoying auto-play advertisements. I understand that they are sometimes seen around here. If so? Tell us and we will try and get the advert pulled from rotation.
It’s not just that it’s also got posts excusing bigotry such as this, it’s also got annoying adverts that REFUSE to remain stopped or silenced.
And in this case it’s a post weeping for the lack of tolerance the GLBT have for Christians.
Tolerance; that’s the buzzword for one of contemporary culture’s most exalted virtues. Do not judge, do not try to impose your morality on anyone else, live and let live, or so we are told.
With the important caveat of “Unless your moral choices harm, hurt or discriminate against others”. We have no problems judging racists.
It is in the furtherance of so-called tolerance that we, as Christians, are supposed to accept a redefinition of marriage to include same-sex couples and perhaps other couplings and groupings at some point down the line. We are called on to suspend our biblically based beliefs about right and wrong and tolerate government sanction of lifestyles that we recognize as harmful to individuals and society as a whole.
Who died and made you the King of Marriage. I mean seriously? People have been getting married for longer than Christianity has existed. This was not some remarkable concept developed by 3000 year old Jews or at the Council of Nicea. This is a concept that has been entrenched in nearly every civilisation. And I like the euphemistic reference to other couplings and groupings, because that clearly doesn’t mean poly relationships which are perfectly Biblical but probably means child molestation (Which was perfectly biblical. Remember, Mary was just 13 to 15 years old and was a child. It’s just a different time, women have traditionally been considered as adults at the age of menses and children were expected to work and get married at a time we would be considered teenagers) and beastiality. The usual go to “fears” about Gay Marriage being a slippery slope.
And this very argument can be used to oppose the government ban on slavery. After all? There is no lines about not keeping slaves in the Bible and the Bible does exhort it’s followers in Leviticus to keep slaves in specific ways if they are gentile or Jew. In fact there are direct demands from Jehovah to KEEP slaves. There was never a direct command to ban slavery.
Now an atheist would look at this and go “That’s easy, the reason there is no such demand is because the Jewish Economy like many economies of the time was powered by slavery and so it was seen as social good as long as you were the one doing all the enslaving”.
But the fundie has no such stance. In claiming to have a moral code handed down by god he must admit that the ownership of people as property is not just moral but mandated by his faith and that the law opposes his freedom.
Which is nonsensical. Oh I know there are slavery apologists who insist that slavery isn’t so bad and that an objective morality cannot prove that slavery is bad, but such philosophical escapes are of little aid to people who are slaves and is indicative of a morality that is not based on human empathy or equality.
But as our culture begins to warm up to the idea of same-sex marriage, we are discovering that tolerance – as that term is generally understood – is not nearly enough to satisfy those pushing for this new social standard. In addition to permitting same-sex unions, we are to participate in them when called upon (such as Christian cake-bakers and photographers) and we are to speak well of them when asked.
In other words, in the name of “tolerance,” differing views are not tolerated. And, apparently, anyone who fails to meet these expectations will be publically shunned and stripped of livelihood.
Just ask Phil Robertson, patriarch of the family profiled in the wildly successful Duck Dynasty series, who no longer has a place on the reality show for being a bit too real during an interview with GQ magazine.
You call your view differing. Your view is no different to those who do not wish to participate in the mixing of races in public spaces or in the god given rite of marriage. After all? Black and White don’t mix. Eww! Can you imagine what would happen if races mixed? We would look like freaks!
Presumably, Robertson was sought out for the interview because of his straight-shooting, folksy style, which is almost as famous as his long, straggly beard. And Robertson did not disappoint, answering questions plainly and directly, in the whimsical manner he and his family are known for.
Because homophobia and racism are whimsical? I mean even if you don’t agree that the GLBT should have the same rights of people because you think anal sex is “icky”.
Claiming that the Black people of America were HAPPIER in the Apartheid is “racism” and an ignorance of the history of American Apartheid.
Robertson explained that he needs a savior just like anyone else. Telling his personal story of redemption, Robertson harkened back to his reckless, younger days and how he finally found meaning and fulfillment through a relationship with Jesus Christ
Had the journalist Drew Magary left it at that, Robertson would still have a spot on the show. While the idea of repentance can be unsettling to some, talk of sin is acceptable as long as it stays theoretical. But Magary probed and Robertson obliged.
It’s not my fault for being a gigantic bigot it’s the people who asked me questions and my pathological inability to understand why the words I say are bad.
Magary asked Robertson: “What, in your mind, is sinful?” To which, Robertson gave an honest understanding, paraphrasing 1 Corinthians 6 from the Bible. That too could have been glossed over, except this verse happens to condemn homosexual behavior, in addition to adultery, prostitution, and drunkenness, among other things.
Let’s really not forget that 1 Corinthians 6 is based on Levite law which prohibits those two things and there is no repeal of those.
And that’s when the comments became too personal for homosexual activists like GLAAD. We didn’t hear from any groups about the remarks putting prostitution or drunkenness in a bad light, but GLAAD was quick to defame Robertson for mentioning homosexuality, attacking both his character and his faith. And for good measure they strongly suggested A&E, the station that carries Duck Dynasty, and the sponsors of the show, reexamine their ties to Robertson.
Actually it’s because pro-sex worker groups also stand for GLBT rights and the GLBT were specifically mentioned. Most readers of GQ are not reaching for Bibles to look up Corinthians.
And secondly? Hypocrites. What fucking Hypocrites. The Bible says a lot about the actions of hypocrites. Job, Psalms, Proverbs, Matthew, Luke, James… the number of references to the “evil” of a hypocrite is sufficient to consider it a bigger “No-No” than mere homosexuality.
Let’s look at their past involvement in disputes. Let’s ignore the whole “greed” aspect and the whole “Camel through the Eye of A Needle” (My suggestion? Blender and a fine spray mist) thing and remember that there were lawyers involved. Also? There is current (Pointless) litigation from lawyers over two different cases on behalf of Duck Dynasty where lawsuits are in place to get them back on air and with regards to copyright infringement.
Basically? The Duck Dynasty folks “Lawyered the Fuck Up” to deal with Law suits. Are we agreed on this.
1 Corinthians 6.
Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?
But brother goeth to law with brother, and that before the unbelievers.
Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
Whoops. 1 Corinthians 6 is not just about “Gays Are Icky”. Lawyers are icky too and Mr. Duck Dynasty forgot about that.
A & E knew Robertson’s views when they hired him, but when GLAAD complained, they succumbed to the pressure. The decision represents yet another notch in GLAAD’s belt, which also lists the Boy Scouts’ reversal on homosexuality as a victory for their organization.
Yes, because woe betide organisations that are allowed to discriminate and strip members of achievements based solely on legal private behaviour that does not harm others.
To be sure, a disturbing pattern is developing here. Those holding to traditional biblical values are bullied into keeping those values to themselves – all under the banner of tolerance.
Isn’t that the most intolerant view of all, to refuse to anyone else the right to hold and share a different view?
GLAAD’s stated mission is to “ampli[fy] the voice of the LGBT community by empowering real people to share their stories.” It’s a shame GLAAD feels the only way they can amplify their voice is to silence others.
Yes because people are trying to stop Christians from getting married? I would like to know one way how two gay guys getting married stops a heterosexual from getting married?
Are Christians denied service because of their religion? Are they being assaulted and beaten and murdered? Are people trying to deny them healthcare and forcing them to pretend to be Hindus?
No? I don’t think you understand what oppression is. Your religion oppresses the GLBT and so must “back off”. Freedom of religion means your religion is free to practice what it wants unless it impinges on another person’s right to freedom and happiness.