This one comes in from Koro.
I am setting up some extra work for myself so I haven’t been around to blog as much. Hence the older posts and relative “quiet”. I also donated a lot of blood to save a patient (nearly 700 mL in 2 days and I donated 2 weeks ago) because of a lack of donors so am rather “gloopy” at this point.
But this was in my inbox today in response to my stance on profiling and how it “does work”.
Not only does profiling work, but every single one of us, including everyone in A+ does it every single moment of every day … it is basic human nature to assess people and situations based on prior information we have … stereotyping people is not actually a bad thing, it allows us to very quickly evaluate situations and make judgements based on limited information …
I repeat. I am not associated with A+. I am in the bizarre position of being accused of being a Social Justice Warrior (Well I fight for social justice by offering healthcare and being part of many many schemes which help the poorest and weakest). I don’t understand why people keep associating me with it. I have agreed with them on some things and have disagreed with them on some things.
Dear people who send me mail. If you are writing to me about A+ and how it sucks, I get you but frankly I am not part of it and I got other stuff to do than sit around and bash people who want to help in their own way. At least they are trying to help. I have voiced my views EXPLICITLY on why I think A+ isn’t for me. I am not flogging that dead horse. I understand you enjoyed it when I point out their mistakes, but frankly they make relatively few and they tend to leave me alone to do my damn work. Which is a lot more than can be said by Anti-A+.
Profiling works on stereotypes. And stereotypes harm. I am sorry? White people are stupid, don’t have disciplined children and encourage their kids to not hold any real skills.
What? Don’t think we have stereotypes for you guys?
The difference is what we can achieve. As I said. The Nation of Islam may think White people are so evil that if Satan and Hitler had a baby it would be the epitome of Caucasian. However the Nation of Islam doesn’t have any effect on society as a whole. A few black people may join it but frankly they are so powerless that they are raging against the machine.
Black boys are thieves is a lesser piece of racism on comparison. But it’s a view held by the majority.
It’s a view held by the machine.
It’s a view that allowed George Zimmerman to accost Trayvon Martin and quite legally shoot him despite neither of them breaking any laws. That is institutionalised racism.
I don’t speak for A+. I speak for A Million Gods which is basically 3 writers (Jade, Me and Hera) and well it mainly is me since Jade’s got like 10 posts, Hera around 5. The funny joke was that when I joined I explicitly voiced my relatively sensible anti stance and the lovely folk here still hired me to blog.
Why? Because my stance wasn’t the spiel posted by anti-FTB/A+ but one based on a lot of hard won experience.
Sure that teenager in the torn jeans, leather jacket and gang colours might not actually be a criminal … but we will probably avoid him on the street, just in case
Unless he is white then he probably isn’t all that harmful.
If we dealt with white people like they dealt with minorities, we would not trust them with any investments and firearms. Just in case they turn out to be one of those idiots who destroyed the economy for a quick buck or a spree killer. And all that serial killing.
Or you know. Your youth here seems to have stepped out of a gang fight in the 80s. I don’t think anyone wears leather jackets these days.
And this is one of the problems with stereotypes. It means we judge people based on things we know little about. It’s not that teenager you are seeing in this case. It’s the colour of his skin. If he were white he wouldn’t be given a second glance. Black or Latino or even Indian?
That old woman, white hair, glasses, sweet smile might just be an innocent grandma, but boy will we be shocked and surprised if she started spouting racist expletives
No. No we won’t.
A little history lesson for you. Older people tend to be more racist because they grew up in a time period where it was more acceptable to refer to me as a sand nigger or a chink or a paki or one of the many stupid terms racists came up to discuss “half breeds” or mixed race people.
What? You think Nazi Grannies were all leather boots and goose stepping? They hated Jews, waved flags and baked pies just like other grannies. Do you think the KKK’s old ladies sit around knitting nooses? No. They have normal lives.
They just hold some damn racist ideas as a product off growing up in time periods where such bigotry was open, accepted and encouraged. They just don’t see why they can’t call me the things they used to call me 30 or 40 years ago.
And I keep an open mind about people. Even racists. I can hold conversations. But the thing is that the reason we “love” racial profiling is because the races being profiled aren’t white. It’s “those guys”.
And at some point someone will say “I don’t see what they have to complain about, it’s our country” or “It’s their duty to make us feel safer” or something along those lines. Or my personal favourite “it’s just a small inconvenience”.
It’s not. It’s my country too. I fought for it in my own little way. My patriotism and pride for it isn’t the stupid flag waving idiocy but a pride in the people who do good things and who have the same values and culture as me. It’s not my duty to make you feel safer about an irrational fear you have. If you fear that I am secretly going to break into your house and eat your dog then frankly that’s your stupidity and therefore your problem.
Everyone here did it with the “who do you let into the bunker” test a few days ago … and everyone on FTB and A+ constantly do it with all the people they tone police
Everyone? I am sorry the people banned here are
1. A racist spammer
2. Someone who was incredibly abusive to me and threw politeness back with abuse aimed at my girlfriend.
People who “fucking needed to go”. If you stepped into a bar and yelled stuff about the Dutch we would think you are an arsehole and kick you out. If you in the same bar picked a fight with the bar owner and he tried to defuse it but you wouldn’t back down despite you being in the wrong then frankly you deserve to get kicked out.
Oh yes, I have associated the group known as the Slymepit with anti-FTB activity and pro-MRA nonsense but frankly every conversation with them is like my conversations with A+. Unproductive but for diffferent reasons. I am routinely told that I am some sort of parasite and that I don’t do anything positive which is fine. It’s your opinion. I don’t have the luxury of being physically present in the USA so I cannot actively take part in the Atheist social movement properly and honestly forking out a grand to travel down for a few days seems frightfully wasteful.
So people don’t think I do or achieve anything. But that’s because the things I do are like the actions of the Nation of Islam. The people it affects are far far away and not likely to speak up online in areas where atheists hang out. The people I work with don’t hang out in the same groups. The things I do have little to do with atheism. At the moment? I am writing about the “spoon trick” to avoid a forced marriage.
Want to spot a member of the IRA? Chances are they have an Irish accent … does it mean all Irish people are members of the IRA? Not at all, but it’s a damn fine way to narrow your choices
Which means I would have to round up every white American in Boston on St. Patrick’s day as they remember a dour puritan saint by getting wankered and throwing up green beer on each other’s shoes while speaking like the Lucky Charms Leprechaun.
Do you want to know why that did not work? Because the IRA had American help and Scottish supporters too who didn’t fucking speak like Irish men. Where do you think their money came from? Shamrock sales?
Jesus fucking Christ this is ignoring the entire fucking Dynamic of the Northern Ireland crisis. You may as well have said trust all the Orange blokes and Shoot the Green Ones for all the sense your plan makes.
Want to spot a muslim terrorist? There’s an amazingly high chance firstly that they are a Muslim … and it’s a fair bet that most Muslims will be of an ethnic group where Islam is predominant … does it mean all young Pakistani men are terrorists? Nope, but it’s a damn fine way to narrow down your choices
And how do you detect Muslims?
Swarthy? Funny Names? Weird Outfits?
And how did that work when they hunted down Sunil Triparthi’s family and harassed them in the aftemath of Boston? I repeat. They harassed the family of a missing young man SIMPLY and I repeat SIMPLY because he was not white and looked “a bit Muslim”. Alex FUCKING Jones carried the story. Reddit had the story.
His family were devastated. They were searching for their son who they feared for deeply and who were trying to organise a campaign to send messages everywhere so that he would see one and maybe come home and they were faced with the vile hatred of a group of people who thought they could spot a Muslim terrorist.
Surprise, turns out the terrorists were as Caucasian as humanly possible (by being ethnically from the Caucasus) and having non-typical muslim names and not looking like a Pakistani.
WHOOPS. I am sure Sunil’s family did’t suffer too much being regarded as the parents of a terror suspect.
And another instance? Want a spot a thief? Black and Wearing a Hoodie? Except for you know… Trayvon Martin.
And honestly, anyone who cannot see the blindingly obvious there, is just trying to be politically correct for the sake of it, under any psychological test condition, they would fail miserably to not make stereotypical judgments … evolutionary speaking, it is far better to mistake the shadow for being a tiger, than it is to mistake the tiger as only being a shadow.
If in the city you opened fire on shadows thinking they were tigers we would quickly cart you away to jail and your argument would hold up about as solidly as china under a sledgehammer.
It’s politically correct in your eyes because no one is discriminating against you. The people who call you honkey or cracker or gaijin aren’t in charge of society. No one is saying “Look at his pasty face? And that awfully stupid name! What sort of name is Kevin? Ewwww. And did you hear about that weird murder? I bet Kevin did it. It’s always people like Kevin. I bet he trades in securities and is a racist to boot. We should call the cops!”. We are however saying that about various groups who we discriminate against.
I repeat the only reason people WANT such Racial Profiling is because they know that they are the majority and the profile will never fit them. They will never be told to strip in order to fly. The cop will not stop them if they drive a nice car. The cops will stop them nicely and not hold a gun on them. No one will care what clothes they wear. They can stand their ground and not get penalised. They don’t have to run to be safe even when there is nothing to worry about. They can ask for help from the cops and random strangers and not get shot. They can fly without being treated as a deadly weapon.
In short? It doesn’t affect you, which is why you defend it.