This one’s from a guy quoting the Christian Apologist Habermas. Habermas is supposedly set to go to Sweden and wow them with his “proofs” that Atheism is failing but his Christianity is not. Here’s some answers to that.
Six reasons that people can use for believing specifically in the Christian faith, listing them as follows:
- Recent documentations of miracle claims: referring to thousands of cases around the world of documented miracles, including those where medical doctors witness prayer healing people with severe physical disabilities.
And yet none of these are repeatable or occur in well known hospitals. It’s like alien abduction. They always abduct some person in the middle of nowhere who sounds barely believable or who happened to be drinking or was tired or drowsy. For beings of incredible power and technology they sure seem to be slinking around a lot.
Surviving stage 4 cancer is a miracle, yet being eaten by a shark is not.
- Double-blind prayer experiments: where people pray for others with terminal illness. Habermas admitted that most such experiments have not worked, but the three that he knows of that have indeed worked were cases of orthodox-Christians praying for the sick.
Yes but the majority failed. And if orthodox christians praying for the sick works then Catholicism is wrong.
Secondly? Those studies were STILL not statistically significant. There is a reason why we do repeat studies and/or statistics. One simply being bigger than the other is NOT a statistical study.
If you took 10 people and asked them if they liked chocolate or vanilla and if 6 said vanilla and 4 said chocolate it doesn’t mean that 60% of people like vanilla. Statistics are important.
- Jesus as a miracle healer: the research professor noted that when he went to graduate school, most people did not believe that Jesus was a miracle healer, but that has changed and many scholars now believe in the real miracles presented in the Bible.
Do you even realise how ridiculous it sounds to someone who has treated lepers, doled out vitamin A and worked in a fracture clinic and intends to qualify in orthopaedic surgery and trauma how utterly mundane Jesus’s miracle healing sounds? It’s like declaring that you can conjure fire.
And these people are “bloody gullible” if they think that’s a miracle. They are just claims. Claims that are unverified and unrepeatable to be taken on faith.
- Jesus proclaimed the resurrection beforehand: meaning that Jesus did not simply rise from the dead, but revealed beforehand that he would be resurrected. “It’s one thing to rise from the dead, but you claim double the significance of it if you told everybody what was going to happen ahead of time, which shows that you’re in control and know what’s going on,” the apologist argued.
In this book we totally wrote about him around 100 years after his death that was not edited in any way by a Council that may or may not have been in Nicaea.
- Resurrection of Jesus Christ: Habermas said that “we are on the strongest grounds up here on the resurrection argument. Today, there are more scholars who believe that something happened to Jesus than there are those who believe that nothing happened to Jesus.”
We achieved this by declaring all the people who don’t think Jesus rose from the dead as “not scholars”. That sorted that problem out.
- Shroud of Turin: the apologist referred to an hour-long session he led on Friday about recent discoveries surrounding the Shroud, but admitted, “It deserves to be put on the board, at least now. It could be proven wrong tomorrow.”
The Shroud of Turin dates to 1260 to 1370 AD and dates to Medieval France where it was “revealed”. It is a fake. A forgery. A fraud.
The interesting thing is I am interested in catholic relics. I have seen no less than 3 spears of Longinus and enough pieces of the true cross (all with handy nail hole) to crucify half a dozen messiahs.
I also saw the skull of the Dragon of St. George. It was a Crocodile. A small one considering the saltwater crocs that live in the estauries here and the Romulus Whittaker Crocodile Sanctuary which (and I still think it has) a s 25 ft long salt water crocodile. This thing was a baby.
I also have seen the skull and bones of the “cyclops”. In a Museum of Curios these would wander around and this was donated to the British Museum.
It’s the skull of an elephant. And cyclopia is a rare genetic disorder. So people would have seen baby “cyclops” surely there must be some who survive right?
Habermas concluded: “We have got to get the world out there, because the challenge is there, naturalism is losing, and we need to see Christianity ascend, because we have the data.”
Data which people insist they have but never demonstrate. Because you know, the proof of a god wouldn’t win a Nobel Prize?
Ultimately, Habermas is just another apologist with no answers. If you think he is going to wow the people of Sweden with this then I am afraid you will be rather mistaken.