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Oct 07 2013

Low Blow

We often talk about underhanded tactics in politics and let us get this straight.

Neither side in the USA is bereft of such tactics. For every vitriolic rant about Hilary Clinton being some testicle shrivelling bitch who eats the souls of men there are equally sexist and indeed vile depictions of conservative women. Who’s Naylin Paylin for example (It was a spoof porn released during Sarah Palin’s run as for VP).

And more recently?

This one’s from Carla Marinucci.

It’s an acceptable form of sexism because it denigrates a woman we don’t like.

And it is just rather icky. We can’t really claim to have any high ground on this one.

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  1. 1
    unbound

    It is this stuff that really makes me wonder if I’m living in a world of adults. The sheer childishness in all of this makes high school antics look mature by comparison.

  2. 2
    left0ver1under

    We often talk about underhanded tactics in politics and let us get this straight.

    Neither side in the USA is bereft of such tactics.

    The word in bold is the whole problem in a nutshell. The US has only two political parties, and quite often only two opinions are ever heard when there are usually at least three if not many views. But why should it surprise to find binary “thinking” in a country whose pResident said, “You’re either with us or against us.”

    Functional and mature democracies have many points of view being spoken – and listened to.

  3. 3
    CaitieCat, in no way a robot nosireebot

    I have, solely for the purposes of blogging about the awful thing, an item I found here in Canada (i.e., NOT THE US!), which is a large nutcracker, the two levers of which are her legs, shaped like Hilary Clinton.

    It’s an appalling thing. It practically drips with misogyny. And again, in a country where she’s not officially relevant. The right wing just love to throw sexism into their shots at her, it’s hard to find them doing anything but when they talk about her. The only good thing about it all is that she appears to primarily run on right-wing haterade these days: the worse they behave, the more she accomplishes.

    Ahh, you’re just Bill’s wife: becomes a Senator.

    Ahh, you’re just a Senator from a safe seat, show me something impressive: *is Secretary of State at US’ Peak Empire moment*.

    Ahh, you’re just a washed-up old woman: becomes US’ first woman President.

    Ahh, you’re just a mooching ex-President head-in-a-jar: *becomes first woman Pope, leading Catholic religion firmly and boldly into the seventeenth century*

  4. 4
    StevoR : Free West Papua, free Tibet, let the Chagossians return!

    Hmm… that first badge is really similar to a dreadful misogynist “joke” that was made about former Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard. I wonder which came first ..

  5. 5
    minxatlarge

    We have seen that kind of vindictive political behavior before. We also know what comes next:

    “Once the Nazi dictatorship took hold, however, Thyssen began to have second thoughts. Although he welcomed the suppression of the Communist Party, the Social Democrats and the trade unions, he disliked the mob violence of the SA In 1934 he was one of the business leaders who persuaded Hitler to suppress the SA, leading to the “Night of the Long Knives”. Thyssen was horrified, however, at the simultaneous murder of various conservative figures such as Kurt von Schleicher.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Thyssen

  6. 6
    smrnda

    This is about the level of political discourse you get from a lot of people here; I wouldn’t say all, just many. Part of this might be a consequence of people just being bigots, or idiots where, in the absence of meaningful, informed opinions, grade-school level insults are thrown around.

    I’d have to look into it, but I’m not sure the Palin porn is necessarily anti-Palin. A number of conservative men openly admitted to thinking Palin was attractive, as if that was a relevant qualification for office, but like I said, I’d have to look into it.

  7. 7
    Oob

    This stuff… I’ve had issues with this sort of thing for a loooong time, going way back to when Sylvia Brown was a hot topic in the skeptic community. I heard insults like “hag” and “vulture” tossed around (vulture has different connotations for a fake psychic, but in the cases I speak of, it was directly referencing her appearance).

    All I could think was that no one was calling out James Randi on his appearance, but she was fair game? It all came down to the fact that she was “the enemy”, and thus EVERYTHING was justified in attacking this “enemy”. I couldn’t accept that then and I don’t accept that now. Target her repugnant manipulation of the bereaved, but leave out such superficial nonsense as appearance.

    Its times like this when I think that those attempting to “silence” us resulted in something unintended. In our desire to state “no, we will call a spade a spade, we won’t gently say “the opinions of religion are just another valid framework” when we don’t believe it, we ended up believing that ANYTHING we could possibly say is justified in the same way. There’s got to be SOME lines we try not to cross, and not in terms of repugnant beliefs, but in making sure that’s ALL we are targeting, and that if we say someone has done a lot of harm in their life, we are saying it’s specifically because of those beliefs and words and actions taken in their name. We’re starting to realize this, from the sheer horrific vitriol being tossed at a lot of major figures, especially women.

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