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Jun 07 2013

On Reddit and r/Atheism

If you haven’t heard by now, r/Atheism has started a crackdown on the meme culture that spread there as it was hard for genuine posts about atheism to get any airtime compared to the memes.

The issue is that it takes minutes to make a meme or a rageface or what have you.

It sometimes takes hours to make genuine content. I write at a ferocious rate but I know for a fact that it takes an hour or so a day to do this.

Face it. We need new atheists coming out and we need new writers and the like otherwise we will stagnate.

A lot of places have banned memes and ragefaces because they don’t bring anything to the discussion. You aren’t discussing atheism. You are laughing at idiots.

And laughing at idiots is great fun, but it doesn’t help us progress beyond laughing at idiots.

I can see why they did this. Reddit considers /r/atheism to be a circlejerk of people braying madly at religion no matter what. When we can be so much better than that.

There are countless new bloggers out there and new youtubers who never get a shout in for what they do because memes always win.

And it’s they who are the future of atheism movements both in the west and in other parts of the world.

How many times must we ape Dawkins or Hitchens. For pity sake! Hitch may as well be a saint for the veneration that takes place.

Let us try and create something new rather than keep beating the same horse. Let’s try something different.

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  1. 1
    Pierce R. Butler

    Hitch may as well be a saint for the veneration that takes place.

    Maybe at Reddit…

  2. 2
    Shplane, Spess Alium

    To be honest, I’ve never once thought of Reddit as a place where real content exists. It’s memes, and assholes. That’s basically the point of the site.

    I have a feeling that cracking down on memes is just going to result in more assholes. Reddit isn’t designed to produce anything of value, and its commenting culture certainly isn’t.

  3. 3
    Nathair

    To be honest, I’ve never once thought of Reddit as a place where real content exists. It’s memes, and assholes. That’s basically the point of the site.

    Yeah, pretty much this.

  4. 4
    nkrishna

    @2: Agreed. While I like the idea, I don’t think Reddit is where it’s going to take off. It’s easier to create memes and it’s easier to consume memes. Both writing and reading real content takes time and lots of people don’t want to do that. I know when I write anything, including blog posts, it can take hours or days until I feel it’s ready to show the world. Meanwhile, if someone thinks your meme is shitty… well, all memes are shitty.

    I agree, let’s try something different, but that something different is unlikely to come out of Reddit. On the rest of the internet, though, upstart bloggers need to try and get themselves out there and established bloggers interested in new blood can go out and look for it.

    Memes are basically noise, and in unfortunately hard work trying to shout louder than noise.

  5. 5
    Kevin

    I went over there and looked around, but quite honestly I didn’t see anything to keep me coming back. So, I stopped going over there.

    I might look at it again if you think it’s worthwhile to. But my tolerance level is likely to be pretty low.

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