SSA Blogathon – Stop them! They are Making Fun of Us!

Ken Ham has discovered the Redditz and r/atheism and he is not amused! Stahp! Atheists! Why you hating Creationism!

Christian education is under attack in America as never before. Yesterday on this website, we highlighted the plight of the Romeikes, a German Christian family who is seeking asylum in America because the German government forbids their home school instruction. The Obama Administration is siding with the German government and its view of homeschooling, and they are seeking to deport this family who wants to educate their children in accord with God’s Word. If the U.S. Attorney General succeeds in denying their asylum, it may have chilling ramifications for religious and educational liberties in the United States.

Yes. A lot of countries require proper standards of education EVEN within home schooling. Of course Ken Ham thinks he can teach biology! Biology to him equals “God Did It” and “It’s Too Complex to Understand”.

I read about the Romeikes.

No. 1 – In Germany there is no homeschooling unless medical care is needed and even then the teachers must adhere to the standards of education as set by the state.

No. 2 – The Daily Fail champions their cause as if Germany was this horrible freedom hating place. It’s readers quickly godwinned the argument indicating what level of Internet Denizen resides there.

No. 3 – The right to give your children inferior education is not a right. I will point out to you that I am insanely well educated by normal standards. I have parents who are insanely well educated too. Yet none of us would dream of thinking we were qualified to teach children! I am not qualified to wire up your house either. Or fix your computer… Recognising what I cannot do and what I can do is part of being competent.

No. 4 – Christian Home Schooling has a phenomenal record of being terrible.

They have fines to pay for not sending their children to school and their stance for Asylum boils down to “Germany Doesn’t Let Us Stupidify Our Children! We are Oppressed!”. Ken Ham’s running argument boils down to that.

Today, we bring your attention to another attack on Christian education. A Christian K–12 school in South Carolina, with dedicated and highly qualified Christian teachers, has come under vicious attack by atheists. Why? Because one of its instructors, a fourth-grade teacher, tested her children about biblical creation, science, and dinosaurs (using AiG resources), and she has become (in)famous on many atheist websites and blogs.

Because literal Biblical Creation is a religious fantasy and that any teacher teaching it is teaching superstition rather than science.

It’s religious indoctrination and it shows.

I wonder why we are laughing at it!

Everything on there is empirically wrong and teaching children empirically wrong things isn’t to be lauded or appreciated or tolerated. It is ensuring the ignorance of a generation and I have unfortunately had the pleasure of meeting children who are educated in a world where science is anathema.

They become the foot soldiers of pseudoscience.

They also don’t learn to use the appropriate number of exclamation marks.

The atheist buzz about the dinosaur-and-Bible quiz, however, is not really all that surprising. Over the past few years, we have seen atheists becoming more aggressive and intolerant towards Christians. (See the sidebar for just a few of the many examples we could cite.) They are attempting to impose their belief system (yes, their religion) on the culture.

Except our “science” is not a belief. If you stop believing in a heliocentric solar system the Sun won’t magically move around the Earth. We aren’t intolerant against your religion, we are intolerant against ignorance. In a world where knowledge is a weapon, Christianity is disarming it’s adherents.

How Are Atheists Becoming More Aggressive in America?

  • Billboards promoting atheism and attacking Christianity have popped up across the country.
  • The American Humanist Association has launched a special website for children to indoctrinate them in atheism.
  • An atheist rally in Washington DC last year had a special promotion to encourage kids to attend their atheist camps.
  • Atheists have been increasingly using terms like “child abuse” to describe the efforts of Christians who seek to teach their children about creation, heaven, and hell.
  • Many atheists claim that children belong to the community, not to their parents.
  • Atheists have actively opposed any effort in public schools to even question a belief of evolution or suggest there are any problems with it.
A list! My forte!
  • And there are no billboards from Christians attacking the rights of women, the GLBT and proper education for children? Not to mention atheists?
  • Actually the American Humanist Association accept religious people too. There are religious humanists out there. It’s just that most atheists adhere to humanism as a concept and seek to deal with people through logic without applying the laws of ancient civilisations.
  • The Reason Rally? You mean unlike all those Christian Camps that send kids to places where they terrify children with stories of hell and to fear punishment for normalcy?
  • No, We claim that many parents don’t have their children’s best interests at heart. There are countless tales of abusive parents out there. In fact there is an entire movement based on hitting children courtesy of “Christians”. Don’t believe me? Then have a look. Such behaviour is not “freedom” or “the interests of the child” but the actions of a people with no common sense adhering to the barbarous instructions of a group of people who would have considered our technology as witchcraft. If we let the Pearls deal with criminal courts they would be out there stoning rape victims like a really caucasian Taliban.
  • You can question evolution. In fact there is a wide debate on how evolution and speciation occurs. But none of that involves “Magic”. We are not against the discussion of evolution. We are against the insertion of Jesus into children. In the same way that you would be most irritated if we demanded that you teach the Controversy (Jesus or Mohammed!) in your Church.
  • Atheists have debated “Creationism” before. We won. Just because Hitchens is dead doesn’t mean that there isn’t an entirely new generation of atheists willing to demonstrate how ridiculous “goddidit” is. Ken Ham’s problem with evolution is that it makes his 6000 year old magic Earth look stupid.
  • As for Child Abuse?

It seems that since the last presidential election, atheists have grown more confident about having something of a license to go after Christians. These secularists want to impose their anti-God religion on the culture. They are simply not content using legislatures and courts to protect the dogmatic teaching of their atheistic religion of evolution and millions of years in public schools. There is something else on their agenda: they are increasingly going after Christians and Christian institutions that teach God’s Word beginning in Genesis.

It’s Billions. If you are going to mock reality at least get the scale of existence correct.

Ken Ham thinks the world is 6000 years old.

The world is 750,000 times older than he thinks. And that’s just tragic as to how wrong he is. There is no debate on the age of the Earth that’s claiming it’s 6000 years old. Ken Ham would rather we learn about how we all came from the single massively incestuous event of the flood rather than evolution.

In South Carolina recently, a fourth-grade teacher at Blue Ridge Christian Academy (a nondenominational K–12 Christian school) showed students a DVD of a children’s program, in which AiG song-writer and dinosaur sculptor Buddy Davis and I are featured. In this DVD, we teach children the history of the universe from the Bible, with a special emphasis on teaching dinosaurs from a biblical perspective (as we do inside our Creation Museum). The teacher handed out a question sheet to the children to test what they learned from the DVD. (See the quiz above.)

And while that school has a right to teach bullshit because the rules of the USA are such that there is no standard to the quality of teaching which has resulted in kids being poorly educated in nearly every demographic bar cultural groups with strong emphasis on education.

The fact that this DVD exists is testament to that. The fact that there is a school that is willing to show this as educative is testament to that.

The fact remains that many children in the USA receive education that doesn’t meet the basic standard of what the rest of the first world is considered a basic education.

A friend of one of the parents who has a child enrolled in the fourth grade class posted the quiz sheets on the internet. The parent, like all parents who have children enrolled at this academy, had signed a statement, which acknowledged an understanding that sending their child to this Christian school would mean they would be taught biblical Christianity. The parent expressed dismay that his daughter was taught a biblical approach to dinosaurs. The quiz’s posting to the internet resulted in a number of atheist websites reposting the questions and answers, and many of them responded in rage and vehement attacks on the school.

Well yes! By Biblical Christianity, they think “my kid reads the Bible” not “my kid becomes an idiot”.

Now, this Christian academy is not a large school. Yet the atheists went after it with incredible fervor. The school administrator informed us she knew that the school would be involved in a spiritual battle after the quiz went public, but she was not expecting such ferocity. She told us she was shocked at the level of hate that the atheists poured down upon her, the teacher, and the school in general.

The size of the school shouldn’t mean it gets a free ride to teach idiocy.

We, too, have experienced recent increased attacks by atheists, especially whenever they discover we are influencing children with the truth of God’s Word. These anti-God people hate the fact that Christians are teaching children to stand on the authority of the Bible; they want to be the ones teaching children and indoctrinating them into atheism. Even children’s TV host Bill Nye has recently made many harsh statements against those of us who teach creation to children.

Ken Ham…

Bill Nye would  destroy you. Don’t pick that fight.

Actually. It’s been a while since I watched Creationists fail. So knock yourself out mate.

In a way, what is happening to this Christian school and also to the Romeike family should be a warning to all Christians: the atheists want your children. They are aggressively trying to demonize and marginalize Christians in their attempts to recruit your children for atheism or secularism.

Yes. We want them to have a good education and live in a world where all religions are free to be equal. Not a world where everyone is stupid and lives in a cargo cult that worships prior technology because it has no idea how to innovate new things.

Though we praise God for the minority of Christian “missionaries” who work as teachers in the public school system (and who need our prayers), government schools have increasingly become, in essence, churches of atheism. We are aware that the overwhelming majority of children raised in the church attend public schools, and thus it should not be surprising that with all the secularist indoctrination in schools, about two-thirds of our young people brought up in church are walking away from it by the time they reach college age. (See the bookAlready Gone for details.)

It is fitting that the most dangerous thing in the eyes of the Christian god is knowledge. Because through knowledge we realise how non-existent he is.

As we wrote yesterday on this website, the growing anti-Christian attacks in America should be a warning to the church that a chasm is widening between what is Christian and what is not. Christians can no longer straddle both sides of the chasm, for it’s getting wider. They will ultimately have to decide which side they will stand on! And if those who are on God’s side stand their ground on His Word without compromise, then they may face persecution of various forms.

Remind me again? Are Christians allowed to marry? Are Pro-lifers being forced to have abortions? Are we making Ken Ham close down his “Museum” for being a travesty to the very definition of the word?

Nope. It’s the other way mate.

More than ever, God’s people need to be standing up publicly and unashamedly for the authority of His Word.

If I thought the world was 6000 years old I would have plenty to be ashamed about.

The authors of this web article have been highly impressed with the spiritual quality of this school, the administrator, and the teacher involved as they have had to cope with some very vicious attacks. We were encouraged to read on the school’s website that the Academy believes, “God’s truth is authoritative and is the foundation for all living and learning in order to develop a biblical worldview, while both understanding the culture in which they live and being ready to confidently defend their faith.”

I read that as “Your Kids Will Never Work In Science And We Will Not Teach Them Any Real World Skills”.

It must be frustrating for Blue Ridge Christian Academy for another reason right now. Like many Christian schools, it has been struggling financially during this recession. And, of course, they don’t receive the tax money that public schools get.

That damn dirty constitution!

Meanwhile, AiG will be working with the school administrator and her board to see what else we can do as a ministry to help them continue the calling it has to rescue kids from this present evil age.

Murder is at an all time low. Life expectancy is at an all time high. In the USA you are more likely to EAT yourself to death than to die from a pathogen. Society is the most fair that it has been in the USA. Things are actually “pretty good” in the USA. Now if you lived in Africa you can whinge about the evil cruel world, but not when you get millions of dollars to build a testament to human superstition and the notion that Giants Walked The Earth!

It’s a well known fake. Also? You can’t scale humans like that. Not without their bones breaking

I remember seeing that aged 12 and laughing at how silly it was.

And that’s what they want to teach children.

I am blogging as part of the Secular Student Alliance’s blogathon. I am trying to aim for a blog post every so often unlike the shambolic haphazard events of Tuesday. In addition? I am accepting “requests”.

The link to the hangout is here. But the blogathon proper should start in around 2 Hours and continue at a more sedate and sane pace. (New Link! The old one crashed! Tiga’s there too so come say hello!)

If you wish to donate to the Secular Student Alliance then the link is here. And yes, you can suggest forfeits.


  1. Robert Jones says

    This whole item is ludicrous, the idea that Harry Potter, a made up fiction is labelled as against “god”. THIS is brainwashing by a woman who obviously is NOT qualified to say anything other than for herself. I see this video and she’s enjoying the power she has over the people she is talking to. This is VANITY and one of the sins of the “bible”. I AM Atheist, and I AM a decent man, caring loving and NEVER a worshipper of anything but Nature. THe woman is flagrantly idiotic and a false prophet if I can use their own words against them.

  2. coragyps says

    “It seems that since the last presidential election,…”

    Where did that come from, one wonders? Why would Ham pick an election to mark time, rather than saying “over the last couple of years?”

    I think I know that answer already, but it is pretty bizarre to see our president, who gives just as much lip service to Christianity as most any of them in the last century, always getting lambasted for being “anti-Christian.” It wouldn’t have anything to do with dermal melanin content, would it?

  3. coragyps says

    Oh – the Mt. Blanco Museum appears to have closed up. I wonder where the femur went?

  4. says

    It wouldn’t have anything to do with dermal melanin content, would it?

    It’s probably more that Obama is pretty lukewarm, even when he’s making the expected comments about god, etc. He seems to me to pretty obviously not care about religion very much.

    What’s funny, to me, is that so many people expect their leaders to make religious noises, and then ignore the obvious fact that those professional politicians are pretty clearly cynical manipulators who’ve gotten to where they are by maneuvering and making backroom deals. Choosing someone who’s made a living out of compromise and pretending just seems like a bad way to get someone with the “right” morals and strong enough beliefs. This even applies (perhaps “especially applies”) to the mere mortals who get elected pope. The political processes of most societies virtually guarantee that you’ll get the worst people for the job (unless the national agenda is to grow at others’ expense)…

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