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Javed Akhtar

Drama at the Jaipur Lit Festival with Javed Akhtar talking about religion

“I am an atheist, for me all religions are equal, I despise all of them. No religion in the world gives equality to women. Talking about religion is like going back to the cave age… If you want to practice religion, it’s your choice — if you’ve already decided to commit suicide, why does it matter how you do it!”

He said this in response to a debate on whether or not a modern nation state modelled around Buddhism.

However the response from Kancha Ilaiah was pretty sad.

“Life is not a cinema, certainly not Hindi cinema. I can’t go to thousands of Dalits and tribals and say become atheist. If there is one democratic religion they want to turn to, it would be Buddhism. I would rather trust their knowledge than that of the intellectuals.”

I think it’s pretty damning that while the Dalit who wrote the constitution could be an atheist, the current Dalits and tribals are assumed to be incapable of grasping a world without religion.

Comments

  1. SidBB says

    I also find this to be pretty cool:

    Prasoon Joshi who came out a flaming feminist in the session, called Lord Krishna the “biggest eveteaser” of the gopis, dismissing a rejoinder from Sanjoy Roy who said “they look like they’re enjoying it in the paintings”.

  2. nimmy says

    there is no such story of eve teasing. misinterpreting pranks of a 6 yrd old child krishna is a sign of mental illness of prasun joshi. he needs medical help….

    all these are lord Krishna’s childhood activities during his stay in vrindavan with his foster parents nand and yashoda. he left vrindavan when he was 11 yr old. n than never returned to vrindavan.

    for example a person sleeps with his brother n sister when he is child,does it means he should insulted when he grows up by saying that u slept with your sister..???? offcourse not bcoz he was child tht time.

    Śrīmad Bhāgavatam 3.2.26..lord krishna’s father, being afraid of Kaḿsa, brought Him to the cow pastures of Mahārāja Nanda, and there He lived for 11 years like a covered flame with His elder brother, Baladeva.

    mahabhrat sauptika parva12/20 immediately after marrige shri krishna n rukmini went to himalays badrika ashram for 12 yreas n observed strict celibacy there ….how can such a person b an eve teaser.

  3. nimmy says

    rishi bankim chandra chattopadhayay (author of vande mataram) did research on Mahabharata n shri krishna’s life for 36 years n writes his biography” shri krishna charitra” and proved that all such stroies are false….real krishna is what ,he called yogeshwar yogiraj…

    to know the truth please read this book. it is a commentary on bankim chandra book ..free download..

    http://www.vedickranti.in/books-details.php?action=view&book_id=72

  4. nimmy says

    how can a 6 yr old child b an eveteaser? ?

    mahabhrat sauptika parva12/20 immediately after marrige shri krishna n rukmini went to himalays badrika ashram for 12 yreas n observed strict celibacy there so 12 years n thereafter rukmini gave birth to the first child pradyumna

  5. shash says

    I’m not sure you can consider Ambedkar to have been an atheist – at best, religion wasn’t a big part of his life…

    What is really disturbing is the way people can become religious figures or instruments of orthodoxy so easily. We can’t discuss Ambedkar’s life critically anymore, to say nothing of the Buddha – because it very soon devolves from discussion to dogma. Or indeed, Krishna, as above in the comments. I think that is really a human failing, not a specifically Indian one, but it’s something we need to work around anyway.

    I think you’re misinterpreting the response, however; it’s not about not believing them capable of being atheist, but about the impossibility of proselytising atheism to a large group of people. That would really make atheism a “religion”, like all the fundamentalists are always claiming. For one thing, even if you convince such a large group to reject religion, many if not most of them would have come to it out of herd instinct and peer pressure, and not true conviction. Out of that environment, it’s almost certain that dogmas and orthodoxy would arise, and you’d be back to square one.

    So, “preparing” them for atheism by baby stepping them into Buddhism first may actually be what’s needed…

  6. Vel says

    Life is not a cinema, certainly not Hindi cinema. I can’t go to thousands of Dalits and tribals and say become atheist. If there is one democratic religion they want to turn to, it would be Buddhism. I would rather trust their knowledge than that of the intellectuals.

    I had to do a search to figure out that this was Kancha Ilaiah’s response to Javed Akhtar. Can you please add that to the post?

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