Age of Kali – Of Course AVfM! It’s Misandry!

I caught Anil’s article from A Voice for Men (not doing that joke again… Sorry Cromwell) but missed out on this one by Paul Elam.

It’s an article less about reaching out to India and more about touching it up on a bus.

We are aware that there are many significant abuses of men happening in India, and that there is an emerging and rather robust movement there trying to address problems. One of the most egregious of those problems is misuse of section 498a of the Indian Penal Code, which has led to the imprisonment of innocent men, their families and friends, based on false accusations from wives of the accused.

As Paul is aware the norm in India is to “buy” a husband. You pay a sum of money (often quite a lot) for one. it is common enough a practice. It may not be in hard cash but it is in other ways such as gold, property and things that are useful.

I went to a wedding where the total cost was Rs. 10,000,000 all footed by the girl’s family. Oh? The new couple also got a lovely new flat, gold and a car (Around Rs. 7,000,000) from the bride’s parents. No one forced them in this case but that’s the “tradition”. And when tradition isn’t followed things often get clumsy.

These women tend to meet with an extraordinary number of accidents. They just happen to fall down stairs and set themselves on fire in kitchens (I have been cooking for nearly 12 years and not once have I managed to set myself or anyone on fire.). Sometimes they seem to meet with a particularly bizarre accident involving their saris and scarves mysteriously tying themselves to ceiling fixtures, winding round their necks in an accidental loop pattern and then these women end up accidentally falling off the chair they were standing on. Sometimes these clumsy women fall on knives (repeatedly. I assume the floor was slippery) or accidentally eat things that are poisonous. Some times they even mistake battery acid for water and accidentally throw it on their faces.

Women are so very “accident prone“. It’s a wonder we even let them out of the house… Am I right Paul?

AVfM has done several pieces on the problems with misandry in that country, from women’s and police brutality against men for attempting to board “woman only” train cars. We covered one story in which a man was actually thrown off a train car while it was moving, resulting in serious injuries.

Well, that’s the problem you see. Women are so clumsy that if you leave them around men they just seem to fall off trains. As I said before, if we kept them at home they wouldn’t fall on penises by accident or fall off trains.

Maybe if they had a “good” man like Paul to help them. I am sure he would have done precisely what needed to be done to keep these women safe. With all his “chivalry“.

There is a reason for women only cars. I understand Paul Elam is all about “the men” but frankly he can fuck off for all I care on this issue. I am sure he has many good points in his plethora of arguments as to why women are full of cooties but in this case he is an idiot.

We have even seen a story in the Indian press about a politician offering a bounty for women to publicly beat and humiliate husbands who they allege have abused them, or if they think he drinks too much, with escalating payments. More of a beating, more physical damage, means more money.

Yes, because all the women in India are fighting back against men. Why don’t you know who the face of Indian feminism was?

The Man Eater of Uttar Pradesh and Bandit Queen of India is pretty much the reality of India in Elam’s mind. A Tiger in A Dress may be what India needs. I am starting to see her point. Paul’s support for “the men who think this way” is poison to the equality of women across the world. I bet he would be on the side of the Saudi government. After all women don’t need to drive.

While we cover a lot about events in harshly misandric countries like Sweden and Australia, it may be that India is the most virulently anti-male country on the planet. It makes sense in a way. The more a culture embraces special treatment of women, the more draconian they invariably become against men.

It’s a wonder that Paul Elam’s tongue doesn’t revolt against such a complete and totally false statement and attempt to strangle him. There is no part of this statement that is even remotely true. The statement is so delusional considering women in North India still struggle to learn how to write.

Unfortunately, there is a naturally occurring gulf between the cultures of the east and west. We still contend with an information barrier that we do not face between western nations.  Simply resigning ourselves to that is not an option.

Oh fuck? Is Elam seriously going to be supporting “the menz” of India? By the Power Of Greyskull, that Lawyer of those rapists was a tool but his excuse was a culture that encouraged such beliefs. Paul has no fucking excuse for his idiocy. Fuck! Do the women of the Slymepit where his fans also lurk realise that their “free speech” is going towards “stopping Indian Women From Getting Equality?”.

Or is it genuinely a case of “you know if they speak out they will be the next Jen or Ophelia or Greta”?

In that spirit I would like to extend a hand of friendship and a request to the men and women of India who are watching the legal system there attack men and erode Indian families. Please step forward and help us tell the world. I think it will benefit us all if we have a correspondent from your nation that could bring us reports and updates on events there that we all share concerns about. We here in the west need to pay attention to what is happening in India, and raise as much awareness as possible.

A woman was sodomised by an iron rod causing her colon to rupture. This would leak faecal material and bacteria over the peritonieum resulting in infection and rapid septicaemia leading to death. Do you have any fucking idea how batshit insane that is? And that the defence for these “fine upstanding men” are planning to run with “She’s a Slut” and “Her Boyfriend is A Pantwaist” as an actual fucking defence. That people are genuinely saying that she should have prayed or summoned Krishna or generally not been outside the house?

Fuck! I think India would benefit by stopping men from going outside the house because clearly they cannot keep it in their pants! (A suggestion from a protester)

The women of India think you should stop talking.

I think you should go fuck the high horse you rode in on. India ill needs the likes of MRA to complicate a problem with their bullshit. You are giving a voice to people who fight the rights of women in a country where they are afforded precious little by society.

Then again, those women do seem to be awfully accident prone.


  1. mi says

    India already has MRAs. I’ve seen posters, reports on the news about meetings they conduct. Mostly it is against 498a, which they say “destroys families”. And this sentiment that the law is biased against men is actually very common.

  2. Sheesh says

    While we cover a lot about events in harshly misandric countries like Sweden and Australia, it may be that India is the most virulently anti-male country on the planet. It makes sense in a way. The more a culture embraces special treatment of women, the more draconian they invariably become against men.

    Hey, here’s a way you could read this where maybe he’s making sense without noticing — if you read “special treatment” of women as oppression (that’s a special kind of treatment, wink wink). Now you just extend out from there. The regime necessary to enforce the oppression and the status quo among oppressors is anti-human, and in this sense patriarchy hurts men too. So now, ‘most … on the planet’ is just a bit of hyperbole. Since, hurting men could be read as “anti-male”, the degree of patriarchy could affect the degree of “anti-maleness”. (If someone raised me to thinking that sodomising someone with an iron rod was reasonable then surely I had been damaged. And the persons or society that damaged me would then be anti-me; I was damaged afterall.)

    PHMT was probably not his point though, AMIRITE?

    (Anyhow, just another case where feminism solves the problems MRAs claim to have.)

  3. S M says

    ‘India is the most virulently anti-male country on the planet’ — this has to be a troll, right? Right?

  4. No Light says

    But… but SM – India’s punishing men for rape! Can’t you see the awful ~misandry~ in that? What kind of hellhole punishes the menz for claiming their god-given rights? Oh the horror, my heart bleeds for them.

    Weep for the men of India, who wouldn’t be in this terrible predicament if their property women would only behave properly, and stop wanting to be seen as human.

  5. garnetstar says

    My internist friend once worked in a hospital in Delhi. She was treating a little boy whose grandmother brought him in faithfully, every single day, with an illness that was rather serious (I forget what).

    Then they missed a day. The next day, my friend asked the grandmother why, and she casually replied that the boy had had a twin sister who had the same illness, but since the family didn’t think it was worthwhile getting her the treatment the boy got, her funeral had been the day before.

    Blatant misandry.

  6. No Light says

    ” Some 50,000 female fetuses are aborted every month in India. Baby girls are often killed at birth, either thrown into rivers, or left to die in garbage dumps. Its estimated that one million girls in India “disappear” every year.”


    Think of all the men who’ll never get wives. It’s a feminazi conspiracy, brazen and deliberate misandry.

    garnetstar – I feel so sad that my first thought was “Wow, they missed that day’s treatment and risked the boy’s health over a girl?”. It’s almost as if they cared.

    Poor kid, dying slowly and (presumably) painfully while her brother blossomed. But y’know, he had to miss one day of treatment, so… misandry! It’s a pandemic.


  7. says

    Er.. It’s not about wives. The fewer women out there the more that miss out on healthcare and the fewer women available to fight for actual rights. I understand you think that somehow “not” having brides will somehow make men treat women but in India even a 30% loss of women has resulted in fewer rights for young girls rather than more in particular because they have literally no local role models or there aren’t sufficient to send down female care workers to provide permanent coverage. It may sound like “blah money!” but “you have money”, India does not. Not when most of India doesn’t earn more than $2 a day.

    Every female child is required if you want to overturn a system dedicated to killing them. Every part of India with successful female protection schemes has better treatments of women than parts of India without those and a more laissez faire attitude to gender ratios.

    How can you value a girl if you don’t “have” any to value? You are overturning thousands of years of culture and it requires this.

  8. No Light says

    I was being sarcastic, using the same sort of arguments I’ve seen AVfM use in the past. To them everything boils down to the sex they’re not getting.

    Did you really think I was suggesting that people are murdering neonate girls and illegally selecting the sex of their foetuses as part of a “feminazi”(!) conspiracy to deprive future men of wives?

    I don’t think even Paul Elam would go that far.

  9. No Light says

    Oh and WRT –

    It may sound like “blah money!” but “you have money”, India does not.

    Who mentioned money? I didn’t. Also, you don’t know what I have. But if you’re desperate to know, it’s £11 per day. Far more than $2, for which I’m grateful, but I’m not exactly Madonna or JK Rowling.

  10. says

    People have made the “you only are worried about the gender disparity because of men needing vagina” argument before when discussing Indian gender ratios.

    I am fine, but the people who I treat are not. You have to realise that for these people 11 dollars a day is mad money, 11 pounds is like bank… If you offered them that they would happily say yes. You aren’t Madonna but you certainly are rich enough for these people to want what you have.

    It’s how the domestic labour market in the middle east works if you read the previous article.

  11. No Light says

    I know MRA scumbags make comments like that all the time. That’s because they are filth. I was mocking them, for the way they turn every fucking horrific aspect of life as a woman (which you are not) into a tragedy for them.

    Women paid less than men? Misandry! Why? Because that means women marry men to take their money.

    Women being raped? Misandry! Why? The bitches are lying to get men in trouble, and anyway, if they just gave it up like they were supposed to…

    I’m fully aware of what MRAs think. They are toxic and hateful. They’re no better than the men who raped M (from DRC, who’d emigrated to the UK) with the butts of their machine guns because she wouldn’t hand her daughters over, or the husband who tried to kill her for it. No better than the brothers and fathers who burn, drown, and bludgeon girls to death because of an insult to their ‘honour’.

    When I still worked I dealt with the fallout of anti-female sentiment in Asia, Africa, Eastern Europe and the Middle East. I know what goes on out there. I also know how much money £11 a day is to many people, that’s why I said I am grateful.

    However, £330 (gross) pcm does not allow me to help like I used to, nor can I do the hands-on work that I used to, to affect change. Of course I feel awful about that, but it’s out of my hands. I’m not in a position to influence labour laws in the Middle East, or to change anyone’s life. Would that I could, but I can’t. You’re lucky that you still get to have a positive influence in the world.

  12. IB says

    “Unfortunately, there is a naturally occurring gulf between the cultures of the east and west. We still contend with an information barrier that we do not face between western nations.”

    Ah yes, that magical energy barrier that seperates east and west and prevents us from browsing Indian news websites.
    I mean if you’re an English speaker who can’t figure out to read Indian news (most of the outlets have English sections), then you probably have probably have a piss poor idea of whats going on in Germany. Good thing AVFM is around to keep them appraised of the situation.

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  14. Truthfinder says

    I stumbled on to this blog some how. I think Indian women are so solipsistic that you cant even think men can have problems too..they can be victims too(you cannot always hog victim status :D)…..I believe in true equality unbiased like mother nature. why should there be special trains, buses banks police stations etc that are women only in the first place…this is a question that i have in mind since i was a 5 yr old kid. It would be all better if government collects tax payers money based upon gender. Only women tax payer money should fund women. mens money should only be used for men I would completely happy with that. Oh I just wanted to add one more thing I dont give a ______ about womens issues…because i cant be empathetic to creatures that cant even realise men are human beings too..

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