Oh goodie, a secular anti abortion booth near my table. Wtf.
Then provided the picture.
The “embryo” from the textbook, by the way? About 16 weeks, according to a reverse image search. That makes it technically a fetus, not an embryo. Also, women do abort fetuses at 16 weeks and beyond, but about 95% of abortions are done before this point. For some reason, groups that want to make abortion illegal don’t ever seem to post pictures of embryos around week nine, when abortions much more typically happen.
But fetal development and the cute factor aren’t what this post is about. See, the group behind that booth has a blog, and they posted their account of their first day of the convention yesterday. It’s an odd mash of martyrdom (“People didn’t like us!”) and self-congratulation (“Some people said they were impressed that we didn’t bring up religion!”) along with a telling account of an interview with Rebecca Watson.
All was fine at first– the usual debate about hypothetical scenarios– but went downhill toward the end. The interviewer said that she had been accosted by some anti-abortion activists (who called her a whore) while she was getting her birth control, and essentially wanted us to apologize for the actions of these strangers. I told her that I found the protesters’ behavior unacceptable, and Michael replied in no uncertain terms that “Calling you a whore is wrong,” but she just would not let up. She shut of the recorder and informed me that I’m a horrible person. I’m sure there’s a heavily edited version out on the internet somewhere.
Rebecca found it very interesting that they decided she’s been at Planned Parenthood for birth control when she told them she’d been there “to receive basic medical care“. (Also, her take on the “horrible person” comment.)
There’s also a hilarious exchange that exposes the shallowness of the thinking involved here.
He left me almost as dumbfounded as the woman who insisted that “religion ought to be kept out of my panties.” I smiled and asked her whether it was okay to put science in her panties.
The quick answer? Uh, yeah, if she wants it there. Science “in my panties” has saved my life. The problem with religion isn’t that it mentions unmentionables. It’s that it’s proscriptive about what I do with them. Science, aside from the dude’s interpretation of his embryology textbook in the picture above, is not.
But this–this is the crux of the problem with this group:
One elderly woman looked me in the eye and said “I don’t understand how women could be so hateful to other women.” I was upset by the attack, but calmly responded: “I do not hate women. No woman wants to have an abortion. No woman wakes up and says, ‘I’m going to have unprotected sex today, so that I can get pregnant and have some doctor put sharp objects up my privates.’ No one wants that. And we want to make sure women don’t end up in that situation.”
It was so mind-bogglingly oblivious that I had to comment.
“And we want to make sure women don’t end up in that situation.”
You can’t. That’s not in your control. Nothing you can do can make sure that women never get pregnant when they don’t want to. It’s not even in their control.
The question is what happens then. That’s when the test comes of how you feel about women. And if you insist that they have to surrender their bodies, their health, and sometimes their lives because you personally in all your smug “wisdom” think they shouldn’t be allowed to safely and legally do what humans have always done (and what many other species do automatically), then yes, saying that you hate women is not a stretch.
Claiming you don’t hate women doesn’t make it so any more than wanting women to never get pregnant when they don’t want to will stop rape or make birth control 100% effective. That’s just magical thinking.
Just like religion. These idiots want to make abortion illegal based on this magical thinking. They think we shouldn’t stop them because they have precious good intentions. The funny thing here is that even a Dark Ages holy man who thought that reason couldn’t reliably resolve anything knew better than that.
You’d think a bunch of atheists would get it right.
By they way: If you’re at the convention, consider stopping by the Phil’s table next to this one. He’s collecting for Planned Parenthood in “honor” of his unexpected neighbor.